View Poll Results: It's 231bhp not 240bhp, so I'll:
Cancel my order
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18.52%
Keep going but eyes wide open
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Accept the car but have it modified
2
7.41%
Hey, it\'s only 9bhp - where\'s my car?!
8
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UK Power Decrease: What Will You Do?
05-19-2003, 02:21 PM
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i'm inclined to wait and see. can't see myself chiping it - invalidating the insurance and warranty - for a few bhp. i'd still like to see a true performance test - 7 seconds is very slow.
05-19-2003, 02:43 PM
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Originally posted by MarkW
I really cant choose, its too close to call at the moment.
All I know is that it will be 1, 2 or 3.
And it's 228bhp not 231 :D
I really cant choose, its too close to call at the moment.
All I know is that it will be 1, 2 or 3.
And it's 228bhp not 231 :D
228?! Guess I missed that. It just gets worse...
Hiya Mr Nissan...
05-19-2003, 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by Lensman
228?! Guess I missed that. It just gets worse... Hiya Mr Nissan...
228?! Guess I missed that. It just gets worse...
Hiya Mr Nissan...
As quoted elsewhere:
231ps = 228bhp
240ps = 237bhp
05-19-2003, 04:22 PM
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It's still a fabulous car and a great piece of automotive engineering!!
It will still be no slouch and with looks to die for.
Your friends will envy you in this
Cheers
Oilman
It will still be no slouch and with looks to die for.
Your friends will envy you in this
Cheers
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05-19-2003, 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by oilman
It's still a fabulous car and a great piece of automotive engineering!!
It will still be no slouch and with looks to die for.
Your friends will envy you in this
Cheers
Oilman
It's still a fabulous car and a great piece of automotive engineering!!
It will still be no slouch and with looks to die for.
Your friends will envy you in this
Cheers
Oilman
05-19-2003, 04:37 PM
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Lensman
Know you've also got your eye/deposit on the Nissan. Whats the service been like from them in terms of the pre-order process.
Any promises of books, look at the car, driving days etc
Know you've also got your eye/deposit on the Nissan. Whats the service been like from them in terms of the pre-order process.
Any promises of books, look at the car, driving days etc
05-20-2003, 02:58 AM
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DYNO THE RX8???
The 2001 miatta or as we call it in oz mx5 was ment tobe 155bhp and was advertised as such ,later when it was dynoed it was found to have only 141bhp ,on learning this MAZDA head office offered to fully refund all moneys to the people that werent happy with the car .YOU guys are now getting 228bhp???i would be ckecing my car as soon it can be dynoed if the figures arent correct i would be asking for my dollars back in this day and age MISTAKES ???like the mx5 should not be happening .
05-20-2003, 03:17 AM
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228, WOW, that is bad. Some say they are just numbers, but 22 HP off the JDM and US spec models will be very noticable. I would ask for a better deal since some of you preordered it at 240 HP.
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05-20-2003, 03:26 AM
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Originally posted by tinck
Lensman
Know you've also got your eye/deposit on the Nissan. Whats the service been like from them in terms of the pre-order process.
Any promises of books, look at the car, driving days etc
Lensman
Know you've also got your eye/deposit on the Nissan. Whats the service been like from them in terms of the pre-order process.
Any promises of books, look at the car, driving days etc
05-20-2003, 06:22 AM
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Originally posted by oilman
Lensman, you mean you prefer this ugly brute?
Lensman, you mean you prefer this ugly brute?
Firstly, like me, you've not seen it in reality. Everyone I know who has says it looks FAR better than the images. The only person I know who has seen both cars (in the US) prefers the 350Z by far.
Secondly, I've not made any decisions about my preferences. I've said all along that seeing the cars in the metal will be the final test and in 5 days time that will happen.
Thirdly, in the only magazine review we have directly comparing both cars (it's on the forum somewhere) the reviewer said the 'Z' was unambiguously gorgeous' whereas the RX-8 was not.
Finally, I wouldn't be considering the 'Z' so actively if Mazda hadn't let me down!
05-20-2003, 07:45 AM
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Not really diss'ing it - just stating the opinion (mine) that from the images I have seen it does look amazingly ugly.
As ever , it is a subjective thing.
Also feel it does a different job to the RX.
Traditional pistons , Big 'grunt' only 2 seats. Not really a valid compare for the RX is it ?
I think the only reason they are being compared so readily is that they are the 'sports' offering of 2 major Japanese manufacturers that happen to be released at the same time.
The vehicles have very different ideals to one another.....
Therefore - if the looks *do* appeal to you , you only need 2 seats , you have the extra cash - go for it and be happy !
If it does not work out , the RX will still be around for a few years yet....
Morgan.
PS - If you or rael do bail , are you going to try your luck on ebay ? rael particularly has a very low EP number.....
As ever , it is a subjective thing.
Also feel it does a different job to the RX.
Traditional pistons , Big 'grunt' only 2 seats. Not really a valid compare for the RX is it ?
I think the only reason they are being compared so readily is that they are the 'sports' offering of 2 major Japanese manufacturers that happen to be released at the same time.
The vehicles have very different ideals to one another.....
Therefore - if the looks *do* appeal to you , you only need 2 seats , you have the extra cash - go for it and be happy !
If it does not work out , the RX will still be around for a few years yet....
Morgan.
PS - If you or rael do bail , are you going to try your luck on ebay ? rael particularly has a very low EP number.....
05-20-2003, 09:22 AM
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It does do a different job to the RX-8 yes, but luckily for me I can accomodate either. I really haven't decided to lose the Mazda yet so keep me in the family for now ;-)
05-20-2003, 03:17 PM
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Hey, I don't want to get on my soapbox again so please don't get me going!
How can you compare a four door four seat coupe with a two door sports car!!!!!!!!!:o
The only simularity is they are both JAPANESE!!
Cheers
OILMAN
How can you compare a four door four seat coupe with a two door sports car!!!!!!!!!:o
The only simularity is they are both JAPANESE!!
Cheers
OILMAN
05-20-2003, 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by oilman
Hey, I don't want to get on my soapbox again so please don't get me going!
How can you compare a four door four seat coupe with a two door sports car!!!!!!!!!:o
The only simularity is they are both JAPANESE!!
Cheers
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Hey, I don't want to get on my soapbox again so please don't get me going!
How can you compare a four door four seat coupe with a two door sports car!!!!!!!!!:o
The only simularity is they are both JAPANESE!!
Cheers
OILMAN
05-20-2003, 04:51 PM
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Oilman,
Any comparisons depend upon your viewpoint.
I am married but no kids so I can have a 2 seater, but 4 seats is just more useful when going out with family friends etc.
However my criteria for a car performance and handling are high on the list, and I personally would consider both the RX8 and 350Z as well as a number of dissimilar cars.
My criteria in order for selecting a car is:
Price
Residual Value
Handling
Performance
Equipment
Practicality
Looks
Economy
I think the order you select your criteria will determine which cars appeal to you.
Just my 2 cents.
Mark
Any comparisons depend upon your viewpoint.
I am married but no kids so I can have a 2 seater, but 4 seats is just more useful when going out with family friends etc.
However my criteria for a car performance and handling are high on the list, and I personally would consider both the RX8 and 350Z as well as a number of dissimilar cars.
My criteria in order for selecting a car is:
Price
Residual Value
Handling
Performance
Equipment
Practicality
Looks
Economy
I think the order you select your criteria will determine which cars appeal to you.
Just my 2 cents.
Mark
05-21-2003, 12:51 AM
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Herr Lensman (and others), for my person I don't really understand how you can go after this Nissan. For me it is a design mix of a Porsche with a TT -- just like two dawgs beeing crossed (on the street 
). Even when I did not have a family I would have never considered buying any of those.
The BMW 330Ci is not too bad, but it is like the sedan with two doors taken away. I did like the old Opel Calibra (don't know the Vauxhall name of it) and did consider it at the time. But the turbo was not affordable and the V6 was not so appealing to me. Bought me two MX-3s then and was extremely happy. Lightweight, sporty, not tooo costly, smooth engine. I saved a lot over some BMWs or Audi or whatever....
I have seen the RX-8 and I really like it in person. The Z350 was there and just didn't look good (o.k., only IMHO and I don't want to restart an old debatte....). I found the Z300 very good then, but much too costly (should've importef one from USA when 1 dollar was like 1,50 Deutschmarks :D )
Well, as You said, you will look at both and then decide. Just hold on for the pressure You know that I have one big concern still (MPG).
Cheers, have a good day, Norbert.
). Even when I did not have a family I would have never considered buying any of those.The BMW 330Ci is not too bad, but it is like the sedan with two doors taken away. I did like the old Opel Calibra (don't know the Vauxhall name of it) and did consider it at the time. But the turbo was not affordable and the V6 was not so appealing to me. Bought me two MX-3s then and was extremely happy. Lightweight, sporty, not tooo costly, smooth engine. I saved a lot over some BMWs or Audi or whatever....
I have seen the RX-8 and I really like it in person. The Z350 was there and just didn't look good (o.k., only IMHO and I don't want to restart an old debatte....). I found the Z300 very good then, but much too costly (should've importef one from USA when 1 dollar was like 1,50 Deutschmarks :D )
Well, as You said, you will look at both and then decide. Just hold on for the pressure
You know that I have one big concern still (MPG).Cheers, have a good day, Norbert.