My 8 hesitation question
Thumper, I bought ignition mod from mazsport. It's more expensive ($599 US) than the BHR solution. Not sure what the differences are between the two solutions. Should check out both before you decide.
Thumper, I bought ignition mod from mazsport. It's more expensive ($599 US) than the BHR solution. Not sure what the differences are between the two solutions. Should check out both before you decide.
**Update**
Took it into Ajax Mazda on a flat bed of course
After talking with Pros, Thief and Neo last night, I told them that I had a hard time starting it and then it was idling really rough, gas smell, some smoke and CEL is on (which the counter girls didn't understand until I said check engine light scary!). I mentioned that my plugs and wires were done in June. They didn't have the best looks on their faces.
Pros mentioned to ask for a Vacuum test. I called them to ask for this (since I was in a rush and forgot) and they didn't know what that was, I explained an they said "Oh a compression test, that will be an extra $98." WTF?? I thought Mazda does this for free if a customer requests it? am I wrong? They said they will diagnose the problem and call me. Nothing yet.
Another question - Pros mentioned if I have a starter problem, that this should be fixed by mazda for free? Is this correct?
Thx again guys!!
Took it into Ajax Mazda on a flat bed of course
After talking with Pros, Thief and Neo last night, I told them that I had a hard time starting it and then it was idling really rough, gas smell, some smoke and CEL is on (which the counter girls didn't understand until I said check engine light scary!). I mentioned that my plugs and wires were done in June. They didn't have the best looks on their faces.Pros mentioned to ask for a Vacuum test. I called them to ask for this (since I was in a rush and forgot) and they didn't know what that was, I explained an they said "Oh a compression test, that will be an extra $98." WTF?? I thought Mazda does this for free if a customer requests it? am I wrong? They said they will diagnose the problem and call me. Nothing yet.
Another question - Pros mentioned if I have a starter problem, that this should be fixed by mazda for free? Is this correct?
Thx again guys!!
Last edited by Thumper3322; Oct 30, 2008 at 09:33 AM.
**Update**
Took it into Ajax Mazda on a flat bed of course
After talking with Pros, Thief and Neo last night, I told them that I had a hard time starting it and then it was idling really rough, gas smell, some smoke and CEL is on (which the counter girls didn't understand until I said check engine light scary!). I mentioned that my plugs and wires were done in June. They didn't have the best looks on their faces.
Pros mentioned to ask for a Vacuum test. I called them to ask for this (since I was in a rush and forgot) and they didn't know what that was, I explained an they said "Oh a compression test, that will be an extra $98." WTF?? I thought Mazda does this for free if a customer requests it? am I wrong? They said they will diagnose the problem and call me. Nothing yet.
Another question - Pros mentioned if I have a starter problem, that this should be fixed by mazda for free? Is this correct?
Thx again guys!!
Took it into Ajax Mazda on a flat bed of course
After talking with Pros, Thief and Neo last night, I told them that I had a hard time starting it and then it was idling really rough, gas smell, some smoke and CEL is on (which the counter girls didn't understand until I said check engine light scary!). I mentioned that my plugs and wires were done in June. They didn't have the best looks on their faces.Pros mentioned to ask for a Vacuum test. I called them to ask for this (since I was in a rush and forgot) and they didn't know what that was, I explained an they said "Oh a compression test, that will be an extra $98." WTF?? I thought Mazda does this for free if a customer requests it? am I wrong? They said they will diagnose the problem and call me. Nothing yet.
Another question - Pros mentioned if I have a starter problem, that this should be fixed by mazda for free? Is this correct?
Thx again guys!!
Pros tried to get me to go to Mazda to get the new starter too. Our '04's have weak starters. I like the adventure of starting up the car, and hoping it catches.
Thumper, sadly, it sounds like you may be joining me in the WB new engine club.
I almost bought an extra engine off the sale's for a $1000 just for a back up lol.
I'll just live with mine until it dies (which at this rate it wont be much longer).. hope my coworkers don't mind bump starting me in the snow
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The Mazport solution has dwell settings you can play around with. This is useful for fine-tuning the spark you want to achieve. Useful for FI applications. The BHR Ignition system is non-adjustable. The BHR solution is simply a more robust/powerful coilpack. It has integrated heatsinks PER COIL.
So for those that don't want to mess around too much, the BHR Ignition system is the way to go.
So for those that don't want to mess around too much, the BHR Ignition system is the way to go.
The Mazport solution has dwell settings you can play around with. This is useful for fine-tuning the spark you want to achieve. Useful for FI applications. The BHR Ignition system is non-adjustable. The BHR solution is simply a more robust/powerful coilpack. It has integrated heatsinks PER COIL.
So for those that don't want to mess around too much, the BHR Ignition system is the way to go.
So for those that don't want to mess around too much, the BHR Ignition system is the way to go.
Do you know the website where I can buy them?
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www.blackhaloracing.com
Or alternatively, it's better to PM "Charles R. Hill" use here. He's the guy selling them.
Or alternatively, it's better to PM "Charles R. Hill" use here. He's the guy selling them.
The Mazport solution has dwell settings you can play around with. This is useful for fine-tuning the spark you want to achieve. Useful for FI applications. The BHR Ignition system is non-adjustable. The BHR solution is simply a more robust/powerful coilpack. It has integrated heatsinks PER COIL.
So for those that don't want to mess around too much, the BHR Ignition system is the way to go.
So for those that don't want to mess around too much, the BHR Ignition system is the way to go.
BHR coils work with the vehicle out of the box and require no changes, HOWEVER if you so choose, you can adjust dwell settings if you had the desire.
Ultimately it is up to you - do you have the hardware necessary to change how your car's fuel management system function and to tell the coils to use a different dwell setting? The coils themselves do nothing of the sort. They require the car to tell it what settings to use.
bhr has a tread set up under performance, look on first page of this thread, mysql posted link. They, Ajax MaZda, told me if I towed my car in having ingnition issues I was eligible for the starter. Get your compression numbers. Tell them your with the 8 club, a lot of past members used to service there. They used to disco parts, but Scarborough Mazda is way better.
Keep us updated.
Keep us updated.
You have your facts wrong.
BHR coils work with the vehicle out of the box and require no changes, HOWEVER if you so choose, you can adjust dwell settings if you had the desire.
Ultimately it is up to you - do you have the hardware necessary to change how your car's fuel management system function and to tell the coils to use a different dwell setting? The coils themselves do nothing of the sort. They require the car to tell it what settings to use.
BHR coils work with the vehicle out of the box and require no changes, HOWEVER if you so choose, you can adjust dwell settings if you had the desire.
Ultimately it is up to you - do you have the hardware necessary to change how your car's fuel management system function and to tell the coils to use a different dwell setting? The coils themselves do nothing of the sort. They require the car to tell it what settings to use.
Cool, so sounds like BHR is better?bhr has a tread set up under performance, look on first page of this thread, mysql posted link. They, Ajax MaZda, told me if I towed my car in having ingnition issues I was eligible for the starter. Get your compression numbers. Tell them your with the 8 club, a lot of past members used to service there. They used to disco parts, but Scarborough Mazda is way better.
Keep us updated.
Keep us updated.
They said they aren't going to compression test it yet, and if i want it done another $98, if they require it to be done another $98 wtf is that?
Agree!! Wish I could have brought it to Scar Mazda (Sorry Al), but it's far had to get to work and I bought the plugs and wires off of Ajax so hoping if they need replacing that should at LEAST be covered
No call from them yet
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Or alternatively, it's better to PM "Charles R. Hill" use here. He's the guy selling them.
Or alternatively, it's better to PM "Charles R. Hill" use here. He's the guy selling them.
Thx man! I will see what Ajax Mazda has to say first and if it's that, then I will upgrade. Wish Al would make a comment about the upgrade

Will do!!
That is what I was explaining to the counter girl and she's like "what, what recall, engine problem? it will cost etc etc.." I will see what they come back with.
Now 11:46am and nothing yet. Had it there at 7:30am ***!
Depending on the amount of work they have scheduled for the day, it's not uncommon for the dealers to get back to you sometime in the afternoon.
Also, the service girl doesn't know anything other than to charge the customer. You have to be really specific with these people. They just want your money. Always keep that in mind.
I shouldn't cost you too much. I thought Mazda extended the warranty for the engine just awhile ago? Or is it because you're over the KM's on the car?
Also, the service girl doesn't know anything other than to charge the customer. You have to be really specific with these people. They just want your money. Always keep that in mind.
I shouldn't cost you too much. I thought Mazda extended the warranty for the engine just awhile ago? Or is it because you're over the KM's on the car?
Depending on the amount of work they have scheduled for the day, it's not uncommon for the dealers to get back to you sometime in the afternoon.
Also, the service girl doesn't know anything other than to charge the customer. You have to be really specific with these people. They just want your money. Always keep that in mind.
I shouldn't cost you too much. I thought Mazda extended the warranty for the engine just awhile ago? Or is it because you're over the KM's on the car?
Also, the service girl doesn't know anything other than to charge the customer. You have to be really specific with these people. They just want your money. Always keep that in mind.
I shouldn't cost you too much. I thought Mazda extended the warranty for the engine just awhile ago? Or is it because you're over the KM's on the car?
They did extend it to 160,000 km and no i'm not over it
**update**
Just heard back and they said my cat is plugged. They are putting in a call to Mazda canada and Mazda US i guess because they don't know what is covered.
Pros I said the compression test should be covered and they replied it isn't covered unless it's in the 3 year 80,000km warranty. I told them the warranty has changed to 160,000 and they replied they don't know what is covered being a US vehicle. I said that goes for both Can. and US. I have to wait till tomorrow to get the compression test so no car
If the cat is gone and I have to pay for it, high flow cat??
Just heard back and they said my cat is plugged. They are putting in a call to Mazda canada and Mazda US i guess because they don't know what is covered.
Pros I said the compression test should be covered and they replied it isn't covered unless it's in the 3 year 80,000km warranty. I told them the warranty has changed to 160,000 and they replied they don't know what is covered being a US vehicle. I said that goes for both Can. and US. I have to wait till tomorrow to get the compression test so no car
If the cat is gone and I have to pay for it, high flow cat??


