2014 New Mazda RX 8
06-26-2012, 11:19 AM
#26
Agreed ^
At a time when a Ford Focus (ST) makes as much power as an FD and doesn't even torque-steer, whatever the new rotary will be, it will have to either do something to the tune of 450+HP, or something light, inexpensive, agile and reliable (like a Genesis or BRZ). There is no room for compromises any more.
So here's a question, would you be more or less likely to buy an RX8 if it had all the same handling characteristics, but with a boosted 4-banger putting out 270hp?
At a time when a Ford Focus (ST) makes as much power as an FD and doesn't even torque-steer, whatever the new rotary will be, it will have to either do something to the tune of 450+HP, or something light, inexpensive, agile and reliable (like a Genesis or BRZ). There is no room for compromises any more.
So here's a question, would you be more or less likely to buy an RX8 if it had all the same handling characteristics, but with a boosted 4-banger putting out 270hp?
06-26-2012, 11:45 AM
#27
RIP Mx-3. Hello Rx-8!
Originally Posted by BlackStealth
In fact just based on the clues given in recent articles and it's rumored power - id expect a $55,000-$70,000 price range for one...I just hope they don't try and make it too mass appealing :/. (ie generic)
It needs to be special to make it worth the pricetag. As the Rx8 was, 4-door to bring a rotary car back to the masses, but didn't carry the Rx7 price tag.
06-26-2012, 12:45 PM
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lol, yes, that would be great... except passing emissions with that kind of spec would be rediculously difficult/expensive. Could you imagine trying to pass emissions in the **** province of Ontario?!
...Just a thought, it would be kinda neat to get around those emissions entirely through use of a hybrid hydrogen and petrol combo... just as they did with thier prototype hydrogen RX8 awhile ago... Common Mazda, get a little creative with the bending the rules on today's emissions and what's considered the "norm"!
06-27-2012, 09:57 PM
#31
lol, yes, that would be great... except passing emissions with that kind of spec would be rediculously difficult/expensive. Could you imagine trying to pass emissions in the **** province of Ontario?!
...Just a thought, it would be kinda neat to get around those emissions entirely through use of a hybrid hydrogen and petrol combo... just as they did with thier prototype hydrogen RX8 awhile ago... Common Mazda, get a little creative with the bending the rules on today's emissions and what's considered the "norm"!
...Just a thought, it would be kinda neat to get around those emissions entirely through use of a hybrid hydrogen and petrol combo... just as they did with thier prototype hydrogen RX8 awhile ago... Common Mazda, get a little creative with the bending the rules on today's emissions and what's considered the "norm"!
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Mom: Does it always do that?
Farnsworth: It's not always a burp. We still have one problem though. This robot will never meet emission standards.
Mom: Crap spackle! We'll just call it a sport utility robot and classify it as a light truck!
Farnsworth: Well... I suppose the environment can take one more for the team.
Farnsworth: A flaming burp.
Mom: Does it always do that?
Farnsworth: It's not always a burp. We still have one problem though. This robot will never meet emission standards.
Mom: Crap spackle! We'll just call it a sport utility robot and classify it as a light truck!
Farnsworth: Well... I suppose the environment can take one more for the team.
07-02-2012, 11:29 AM
#32
Wouldn't it be great? But I really think the business case for doing another rotary gas guzzler is pretty dim. Any efficiencies squeezed out by going direct injection will be negated by the larger 16X displacement. So in the best case scenario we have another 20 mpg car putting out at most 300hp. The journos will damn it with faint praise over the fine handling but the rotary gas guzzling stigma will carry on.
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Theoretically the engine will produce more torque and burn less gas then the previous Renesis engine.
In addition a new spark system could be incorporated (laser ignition) and the highly efficient fuel injectors that were developed for the hydrogen rotary further improving fuel efficiency.
Mazda talks a bit about it here http://www.mazda.com/mazdaspirit/rotary/16x/
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