Stance coilovers in stock!!!!!
09-03-2008, 07:06 AM
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09-03-2008, 01:23 PM
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I have -2deg camber up front, -1.5 in the rear. Toe is 1/8in out on the front, 1/8in in on the rear. Caster is 6deg, I believe.
The toe-in on the rear was especially important with the 7k springs. If I find that the car doesn't rotate as well on concrete as it did on asphalt, I'll try setting the rear to zero toe.
Installing the coilovers and lowering the car allowed me a much greater range of camber adjustment. Honestly, I'm not certain what the front camber was set to before because I asked the shop for 'maximum,' and they didn't give me a print-out. That was the first and only time I went there. After the coilovers, the pre-alignment check said my fronts were set to -2.5. As I said above, I have that dialed back to 2.0 now.
The toe-in on the rear was especially important with the 7k springs. If I find that the car doesn't rotate as well on concrete as it did on asphalt, I'll try setting the rear to zero toe.
Installing the coilovers and lowering the car allowed me a much greater range of camber adjustment. Honestly, I'm not certain what the front camber was set to before because I asked the shop for 'maximum,' and they didn't give me a print-out. That was the first and only time I went there. After the coilovers, the pre-alignment check said my fronts were set to -2.5. As I said above, I have that dialed back to 2.0 now.
09-07-2008, 12:17 PM
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So, I took the car out of town with the coilovers for the first time this weekend. Since I installed them, the car has only been about 45min. outside of the city, and that was on a smooth freeway.
Honestly, I'd call the coilovers 'annoying' on a rough freeway. My wife, however, would call them 'intolerable.' On smooth, asphalt freeway there's no problem. On concrete freeways, you'll feel every seam. If the freeway is old and heaved at all, your wheels are going to feel square.
Me, I'll live with it. My wife says this is the last time we're taking my car on a long trip. :p
For some people the ride might be compromised too much. I don't put a ton of miles on my car and I'll swap the stock parts back in for winter anyway.
Honestly, I'd call the coilovers 'annoying' on a rough freeway. My wife, however, would call them 'intolerable.' On smooth, asphalt freeway there's no problem. On concrete freeways, you'll feel every seam. If the freeway is old and heaved at all, your wheels are going to feel square.
Me, I'll live with it. My wife says this is the last time we're taking my car on a long trip. :p
For some people the ride might be compromised too much. I don't put a ton of miles on my car and I'll swap the stock parts back in for winter anyway.
09-07-2008, 03:25 PM
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so...how would these compare to the KW varient 3s on performance? How do they measure up on shock dynos?
Not to be a kill joy or anything, there are there are other coilover manufactures on the market that advertise tons of features for a lower price set, but in the end they are of lower quality, the shocks vary greatly in force, and they're not even matched right. And in the end even though the car felt more 'planted' due to the stiffer ride, it actually performed worse overall.
Not to be a kill joy or anything, there are there are other coilover manufactures on the market that advertise tons of features for a lower price set, but in the end they are of lower quality, the shocks vary greatly in force, and they're not even matched right. And in the end even though the car felt more 'planted' due to the stiffer ride, it actually performed worse overall.
09-07-2008, 04:33 PM
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You get what you pay for. The KW v3's are independent bound and rebound.
If you're on a budget but require certain adjustability then the Stance might be your best value but don't expect to get the best of both worlds, as nick stated.
Good for track, street debatable.
Rishie
If you're on a budget but require certain adjustability then the Stance might be your best value but don't expect to get the best of both worlds, as nick stated.
Good for track, street debatable.
Rishie
09-07-2008, 05:48 PM
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I have -2deg camber up front, -1.5 in the rear. Toe is 1/8in out on the front, 1/8in in on the rear. Caster is 6deg, I believe.
Installing the coilovers and lowering the car allowed me a much greater range of camber adjustment. Honestly, I'm not certain what the front camber was set to before because I asked the shop for 'maximum,' and they didn't give me a print-out.
Installing the coilovers and lowering the car allowed me a much greater range of camber adjustment. Honestly, I'm not certain what the front camber was set to before because I asked the shop for 'maximum,' and they didn't give me a print-out.
09-08-2008, 07:14 AM
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so...how would these compare to the KW varient 3s on performance? How do they measure up on shock dynos?
Not to be a kill joy or anything, there are there are other coilover manufactures on the market that advertise tons of features for a lower price set, but in the end they are of lower quality, the shocks vary greatly in force, and they're not even matched right. And in the end even though the car felt more 'planted' due to the stiffer ride, it actually performed worse overall.
Not to be a kill joy or anything, there are there are other coilover manufactures on the market that advertise tons of features for a lower price set, but in the end they are of lower quality, the shocks vary greatly in force, and they're not even matched right. And in the end even though the car felt more 'planted' due to the stiffer ride, it actually performed worse overall.
These are an awfully good bang for the buck, in my opinion.
Just ask for the longer, softer rear springs.
More on that after this weekend.
09-08-2008, 07:15 AM
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09-16-2008, 08:27 AM
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Over the weekend we returned to the first surface I ran the Stance coilovers on. As it did on the asphalt a couple weeks ago, the car felt very neutral and predictable.
At this point it feels like the car has developed well and next season I can focus on learning to drive it quickly while making the smaller changes I'm allowed in ST.
Thanks to Stance for their support and to Rishie for the great deal. Both were a pleasure to work with.
I'm including two pictures of my car. One is of another driver who, on a fun run, ended up in a mad-tight JDM yo drift.
At this point it feels like the car has developed well and next season I can focus on learning to drive it quickly while making the smaller changes I'm allowed in ST.
Thanks to Stance for their support and to Rishie for the great deal. Both were a pleasure to work with.
I'm including two pictures of my car. One is of another driver who, on a fun run, ended up in a mad-tight JDM yo drift.
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10-23-2008, 01:12 PM
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10-28-2008, 08:29 AM
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I took the Stance coilovers off my car and put the stock parts back on over the weekend. Winter is coming, and I don't want to get the Stance parts all gummed up with salt. The car doesn't feel as squishy as I thought it would, but it's definitely taller. 
The rears took me about two hours to swap, and the fronts about 45min. I'm sure I could get the whole process down to about two hours.
I wanted to make a final note for the season, though. We had a two-day event last weekend. The car still felt pretty good, but my tires were uncooperative. I think they've had enough.
Since I've had the Stance logo on the car at events, I've had questions about them, but the really cool thing is that I meet other people who have also received great support from Stance.
These guys really support their customers. That's fantastic and rare.
I didn't achieve what I wanted to this season, but I usually set my sights pretty high. Next season I'll have the Stance coilovers back on, with a good baseline setup I didn't have at the beginning of this year. I'll have narrower tires in STX, but they'll be better than the Azenis I used this year. I look forward to working with Stance, and I will keep everybody updated on any setup changes they recommend for the new tires.
The rears took me about two hours to swap, and the fronts about 45min. I'm sure I could get the whole process down to about two hours.
I wanted to make a final note for the season, though. We had a two-day event last weekend. The car still felt pretty good, but my tires were uncooperative. I think they've had enough.
Since I've had the Stance logo on the car at events, I've had questions about them, but the really cool thing is that I meet other people who have also received great support from Stance.
These guys really support their customers. That's fantastic and rare.
I didn't achieve what I wanted to this season, but I usually set my sights pretty high. Next season I'll have the Stance coilovers back on, with a good baseline setup I didn't have at the beginning of this year. I'll have narrower tires in STX, but they'll be better than the Azenis I used this year. I look forward to working with Stance, and I will keep everybody updated on any setup changes they recommend for the new tires.
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PM replied Christian,
Sorry i been on holiday for past 3 weeks. i'll be back in my southern Cali warehouse early next week. That's where your paperwork is.
Rishie
Sorry i been on holiday for past 3 weeks. i'll be back in my southern Cali warehouse early next week. That's where your paperwork is.
Rishie
