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takahashi 06-01-2005 06:41 AM

R Magic Triple Piper Cleaner (Air filter)
 
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This is a 3 layer Pipercross filter which is popular amoung WRC (that is what it says in the ad :rolleyes: ).

They said normal paper style (even with the MazdaSpeed one I had) will expand under humid condition (prob not in Australia though :rolleyes: ).

You can wash them in clean water, hang them dry them 100% and reuse them.

There is a lot of blah blah blah in the ad but the bottom line is 7350 Yen (less than AUD$100).

Japanparts.com can get them easily

I wonder how many of you will be interested... I am not posting a group buy but if it does eventuate, we will have to go through the offical channel (ie Hymee's approval as he is the bloody moderator :D)

RXE16T 06-01-2005 07:02 AM

Certainly cheap......

auzoom 06-02-2005 10:30 AM

If you WERE to suggest one I MIGHT be interested ;-)

Andrew

takahashi 06-02-2005 06:40 PM

I will be ideal for people who are due for 30000km service :)

Hymee PM to you.

I think I will go ahead. It is much cheaper than the ITP one from the UK *they will be $200 plus.

This ain't bad AT ALL

Going through the normal channel now.

Lock & Load 06-02-2005 08:31 PM

Taka

Put me down for one .

cheers
michael

Choppy 06-02-2005 08:39 PM

yeah me too please..

Go through the other channel www.rx8club.com.au and advertise it!

Regards
Phillip

takahashi 06-02-2005 09:31 PM

Yes I will Chop.

I think 10 of them is a good starting point

I will go through here and .au site

I need to get instruction from Omi first and I am contacting Japan for a quote. Will reveal in a sepearate thread.

mikeyr 06-03-2005 12:57 AM

Taka,

I'm good for one.

M

mikeyr 06-03-2005 12:59 AM

Just had a flash of brilliance, I'm off on a 3 week world trip on Sunday and meeting a mate who lives in Japan in Sri Lanka at a conference w/c 20th. Could get him to pick up one or a few depending on bulk. Looks like I'm transitting via Sydney so could drop off a couple into the post. (I stress a couple)

Mike

NT Rotor Head 06-03-2005 08:14 AM

Put me down for one as well Taka. Any idea if they require oiling after cleaning like other foam or fabric filters eg (K&N) etc or is it a dry filter?

takahashi 06-03-2005 09:21 PM

100% certain not a paper filter. It is a 3 layer foam filter. it is a poly... uthine... foam :p

Not 100% sure on oiling though :o. From what I am gather from the ad that it is a foam type and no mention of oiling. If they are oiled they usually said it is the oiled type. But I am sure it does not need a cleaning agent to clean the thing... and they said in that ad that you need to dry them 100% before reinstall. No mention of oiling.

Mike, it will be good for your friend to check it out. Super Autobarc that I visited in Yokohama carries R Magic stuff and ordering them only take a day or so. And certainly will get a touch under the RRP. The problem is bulk. Normal suit case will probably only able to carry 20 (if you have a large one).

They are light so I think the EMS cost will not be much. Unless you are very keen, the good are actually covering the whole distance around the world accroding to your plan :p

mikeyr 06-03-2005 09:47 PM

Yeah hardly worth it i guess, seemed a good idea after a big brazillian BBQ dinner, a few beers and a good bottle of Pinot.
Am off to US , UK, Belgium and Sri Lanka, only a couple of days in each city, too damn short to go hunting down parts, but am going to keep my eyes open.
What do you think of the "green" filters?
MIght be able to pick up in the US.

takahashi 06-04-2005 01:04 AM

I think they are slightly better than stock, on par with K&N, oiled type

ITG and Pipercross are 3 layers... can't beat those ;)

MissyK 06-04-2005 01:08 AM

Now time for the chick to ask the silly questions...

Is this necessary for the car? and is it hard to install??

:D

Ta, Kall

Zephyr 06-04-2005 02:25 AM

not neccescary, it's just another money making scam:) well, the only good thing is that it's washerable and it saves replacement when the dealers service your car.
and it's simple to install ;)

MissyK 06-04-2005 02:29 AM

Hum, Wats it do then :confused:
Easy to install as in easy enough for me to give it a go too :D

Zephyr 06-04-2005 02:44 AM

doesn't do much, it's just a useable air filter element to replace your existing one. i think a 15yr old can do this install easily...

Just unscrew a few screws, unplug the MAF sensor, take the upper part of the intake box out, take the existing air filter element out then out then out a new one back in and put everything together again.

hrmmm but your case miss.rx8, im not so sure... joking:p

Zephyr 06-04-2005 02:45 AM


Originally Posted by Zephyr
doesn't do much, it's just a useable air

spelling mistake
*reusable* :o

takahashi 06-04-2005 04:07 AM


Originally Posted by Zephyr
doesn't do much, it's just a useable air filter element to replace your existing one. i think a 15yr old can do this install easily...

Just unscrew a few screws, unplug the MAF sensor, take the upper part of the intake box out, take the existing air filter element out then out then out a new one back in and put everything together again.

hrmmm but your case miss.rx8, im not so sure... joking:p

No even need a screwdriver, you just unplug the clips and take the old filter out put the new filter in.

Stiock paper filter is restrictive. this filter is reusable and better.

Mazda charge prob the same to replace stock filter.

it isup to you.

takahashi 06-04-2005 04:13 AM

I can gurantee one thing.

It will be better than K&N typhoon intake. On par with most intake out there.
Better than stock filter

Maybe worse than Racing Beat Revi intake (since they have a bigger intake mouth).

And there should be very little hp gain if any :rolleyes:

RXP33D 06-04-2005 10:29 PM

I've had the typhoon for a while now, and i think it sounds wonderful.
Taka,
When you say guarantee its better, what makes typhoon the worst intake out there?
Are there more gains to be had with the piper cleaner? or is it better/cleaner for your engine?

auzoom 06-05-2005 01:55 AM

I remember reading something about the surface area of the Typhoon being quite small and so not much better than a stock filter. If they had given it as much surface area as the stock filter then it would have been much better...Now that I have said that I cant recall where I read that.

Thats one thing that the pipercross filter will have over the typhoon anyway. Its as big as the stock filter and less restrictive air flow.

Andrew

takahashi 06-05-2005 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by RXP33D
I've had the typhoon for a while now, and i think it sounds wonderful.
Taka,
When you say guarantee its better, what makes typhoon the worst intake out there?
Are there more gains to be had with the piper cleaner? or is it better/cleaner for your engine?

Only if you don't have a plastic shield anymore and you are getting cabin air which is 20 degree higher from the air outside. So I think you should get the stock air box from you garage and some how fit it in. Otherwise, K&N will be very similar material as in the ITG and pipercross. The latter two just very slightly better, but I am sure not by a lot.

I have tested sCANalyser on the Typhoon without air box... I was sweating looking at the intake temp :eek:. Please believe me.

In terms of this filter

1. I don't think there will be any gain with the piper. May be 1 ps just to make you feel better?;)

2. But will be certainly cleaner air compare to stock. The stock filter is not much different from the filter I had stock from the Civic, Integra I had and even my 98' Camry I also have now. I am sorry but it is just the same material but different shape.

3. Foam type filter generally flow better than the paper style.

takahashi 06-05-2005 06:10 PM

Bad news
 
Got a quote from Japanparts.com

It will be estimated about $150 each (allowing tax and postage from me to you.)

If there were no tax we may save $10.

It is at cost.

Most of the costing are from the Air Fleight to here. It ain't cheaper by too much per item as individually.

:(

Are we still interested or is it easier to order from Koji individually?? I reckon is about the same if you have other things to order as well.

Anyway see what you guys think ... I am not fuss

Taka

Lock & Load 06-05-2005 06:16 PM

I am still in .

cheers
michael


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