ELITE-RX8

Thinking of just upgread my computer or put a PROMAZ Turbo Kit in. but worry about if the engine will blow or not.

What you guys think.??

Grizzly8

Havent you recently replaced your engine ?

Any forced induction system has its weaknesses , so far i personally havent seen a system that has addressed all the components needed for a possible trouble free realible car .

Mazsport in USA have 4 different FI Types with most vital components seemingly addressed

This is an over view of the type 3 kit very comprehensive upgrade IMHO


https://www.rx8club.com/mazsport-104/


Mazsport Turbo Kit Type 3



Overview
The high power levels this kit delivers combined with the aggressive front mount intercooler makes this an intimidating force on the street or track. This turbo system locates the turbocharger in the more pronounced position of our type 2 kit while utilizing the large front mount air to air intercooler of our type 1 kit. It incorporates a 3 inch fresh air intake design allowing air to be drawn in from behind the bumper and boost pressure in (controlled by a 44mm stainless steel external waste gate) which is routed back into the 3 inch stainless steel downpipe. The downpipe maintains the standard 3 bolt flange common to the majority of converters and midpipes on the market. The kit also comes complete with our heavy duty motor mount kit to replace the factory components which are common failure points.

Contents
• Dual Ball Bearing water and oil turbo T-4 style turbo

• Stainless Steel Oil Feed and Return Lines with required fittings

• Stainless Steel Water Feed and Return Lines with required fittings

• Stainless Steel 44mm waste gate with V-band clamps

• Stainless Steel Tubular Turbo Manifold

• Stainless Steel Downpipe w/ standard 3bolt triangular flange

• Stainless Steel V Band Clamp

• #1 Type 3 Charge Tube

• #2 Type 3 Charge Tube

• #3 Type 3 Charge Tube

• #4 Type 3 Charge Tube

• Blow off valve(Please specify type when ordering - the appropriate flange will be fitted before shipping)

• Large Bar and Plate Air to Air Intercooler
• Intercooler Mounting Bracket and hardware

• 6 silicone charge tube couplers

• 12 Stainless steel T-Bolt Clamps

• Type 3 3inch Fresh Air intake system

• 2 Silicone Intake Couplers

• 5 Stainless Steel Intake Clamps

• K & N Air Filter

• Mazsport Left and Right Motor Mount Kit and required hardware

• Mazsport Interceptor-X Engine Management System with maps suited to system

• Mazsport insulated Ecu relocation case

• Mazsport Fuel Pump w/rising rate fuel pressure regulator and return system

• 2 650cc Primary Fuel Injectors

• 2 780cc Secondary Fuel Injectors

• 4 Injector Connectors

• All required injector o-ring’s and seals for a plug and play installation

• 20 feet of Silicone Vacuum hose

• Battery relocation tray and hardware

• Small and Large Tie Wraps

• Gasket, T4 Flange

• 4 Bolts & Nuts for Turbo Flange

Optional Equipment
• HKS Ignition Amplifier Upgrade

• Mazsport Performance Plug Wire Set

• Spark Plugs

• Gasket, Midpipe Flange

• Gasket, Engine to Manifold

• Ceramic Coating – Available in Various Colors. Provides thermal barrier and great long lasting look

There are no easy solutions to getting long term reliable FI systems unless you address all your cars needs .

Michael

Grizzly8

The USA MAZSPORT Type 1 Turbo kit is already on e_bay for sale


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB..._promot_widget

Mazfix.... Archie FROM BRISBANE as well as Simon Promaz MELBOURNE do Turboes but not in a true kit form in fact they are not keen to disclose details of their system which i believe is wrong for my monies i want to know whats going into my car .

Michael

auzoom

Simon (and I am sure Archie as well) is more than happy to disclose details, to people who are interested in purchasing the kit from him and aren't going to go and rip of his hard work. I am sure you can understand the reasoning behind that.

Willie, you have been talking to Simon so you are aware of what his kit is. The MazFix kit is similar in that they both use the same turbo (I Believe) and they both use Microtec ECU. Where I think they will differ is the Micrtotec tuning and the manifolds/piping, etc from and to the turbo. For me, I would prefer to have either a plug and play "kit" as Grizzly8 has shown us or go with someone local.

In answert to your question about if the engine will blow or not, a wise man told me that the use of a large number of engine mods, such as manifold, air boxes, cats, muflers, etc without retuning is a recipe for disaster.

Cheers

Andrew

takahashi

To be it is HOW you tune it.

Just don't get 100% out of it.

You know what I am waiting for to make it safe! Take to me.



(I am the one of the people that read a lot of Jap comment about upgrading tubro in rotaries, not just their spec)

Grizzly8

Per say neither Archie or Simon have a proper outright kit ,......you can purchase and fit yourself or with an independent mechanick , having spoken to both its a 3 to 4 week leave your car and pick it up scenario and they both werent obliging in disclosing their set ups .

I understand that they feel the need to protect their work but hey its only a Turbo and for my money i feel i deserve to know type of turbo , engine management type of injectors used and size etc .etc etc .
I wont be hiding my money when i hand it over , so id like to know the system thats going intu my car .

Dont forget a fool and his money are easily parted

Michael

EZZY

tuning?
emission?
engineers certificate?

takahashi

US emission stand may not be the same as the Australian one. Beware. No insurance, can only have rally plates.... hmmm. No thanks.

Revolver

I've thought long and hard about aftermarket FI and have decided it's not worth the money or the hassle (for me).

I understand why a lot of people do it (or want to do it) and good on them but I couldn't be bothered frigging around with tuning, insurance, emissions, resale, etc, etc, etc.

I'm just going to enjoy my 8 as nature intended, pay off the mortgage a bit and work up to the next level in a few years time (probably a 2nd hand 911 at this stage, unless an MPS RX8 or something else that meets my needs gets released).

jormatom

Dave

I thought only accountants were conservative.

Greg

EZZY

good idea.... which model....
i ahve been looking at the last air-cooled models lately

Revolver

I just know my patience level Greg.

Smarter for me to buy off the rack power than muck around with significant drivetrain mods. The hassle and the risks aren't worth it for me.

And as much as I like the RX8's engine, I've never been a card-carrying rotary nut.

Revolver

If I was doing it right now, I'd say a late '90's or '00 Carrera for $90-100K, but who knows what'll be around for that kind of dough in a few years, which is the more realistic timeframe.

A lawyer driving a Porsche - now there's a cliche for you!

takahashi

Get a open top Carrera Dave.

Show your shiny head j/k

auzoom

Yep, fair points, my own experience however is that I have spoken to Simon on a large number of occasions and he has answered all the questions I have asked him.

As for the "PnP Kits". I think it would be a night mare trying to deal with one of those if something goes wrong. The Mechanic blames the kit and the kit maker blames the mechanic.

Whats that about Eric? If you are asking about the kits then I think the MazFix kit claims to have Emissions compliance and Engineers Cert' and comes with a tune. The Emissions is only valid in QLD however, not sure about Engineers Cert' and allthough the air is strange up their in QLD, I am sure the Tune will work in VIC . ProMaz Is Engineered and Simon is working on Compliance, but its a hell of a lot harder to get in VIC than just about anywhere in Australia and of course it comes with a MicroTech Tune.

Grizzly8

Taka his shiny head is really a ...solar panel ...for a ...SEX MACHINE

and as they say grass never grows on a busy road


Michael

yellowrx8inoz

Jeez michael your jokes are nearly as old as u LOL

ELITE-RX8

Yes i just did change a new engine.

Still not too sure if i should put the turbo kit or not.

Seems that everyone don't really think its a good thing to do.

Grizzly8

Counting on the fact that the younger members havent heard them yet and the older ones have forgotten them

Michael

Revolver

Can I help it if I'm built for speed?

I like my low cD.

Revolver

Don't listen to us doubters. I'm sure there's quite a few people now who have gone down that road and are having the time of their life. Dave at the Nats comes to mind - like a kid in a candy store he was.

It all depends on how much time and money you want to throw at the car. I've just decided that NA is fine for me and I'm happy to wait a while to step up in power.

dbrx8

Thanks Dave!!!! I love what I did to my 8. Mazfix have done a great job and really care about what they do.
Earlier in the thread Grizzly said a something about throwing your money ,..bla bla,... not wise.... At least I can make a decision on my own and actually put my money where my mouth is... The car is turbo'd and drives like a bitch on heat... It bloody Great..
I am actually getting some more work done on it....(as we speak)
Just getting ready for Roxy 8 next Nats..... (if he ever does go FI) God knows...

I also read another thread by Roxy 8 stating that Archie put his prices up.. to $16K... This is not correct... Stage 1 is still $10.5K .. and,..it all depends on how far you want to go...$$ and, How much you want it..
db

auzoom

Well said db. I think Archies and your cars were a credit to the work that Archie had done. I was a little dissapointed that Simon wasnt able to make it to Nats. Turbo showdown!!!!

Revolver

Awesome Dave. Look forward to seeing the new and improved scary beast.

And I quite agree that Archie and Mazfix are good people. They impressed me a lot at the Nats with their no-nonsense attitude. Probably a good thing they're not in Sydney. Close temptation could prove a mind-changer.

EZZY

ummm Dave, there are equally as good (if not better..) rotary specialists in sydney too..... and you have been doing well with the temptation so far..