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Ciao 10-01-2005 10:05 AM

Sorry Timbo No more about the exhaust mate..


Originally Posted by RXP33D
Tell me though mate,

what doesn't Michael complain about.

Good luck with your turbo!



He He.... ROFLMAO


Sooo true!!!! Sooo true!!!

Ciao

Dave

Ciao 10-01-2005 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by Gomez
You manager at Gen(i)e don't know crap from clay. Next time speak to the Tech Manager.......not the Sanitation Manager.


Was it really neccesary to say that??? :confused:

Time to clean up the thread guys ...Please I just want to share with all you rotary lovers My awesome experience with this whole install...

I mean no disrespect to anyone here all consructive comments have been taken on board ...I moved the POD ....But I aint moving those Georgous Quad pipes

Just my taste

Thanx again

Dave

xxup 10-01-2005 05:23 PM

Please don't shoot the messenger, but there has been a misquoted statement made on behalf of someone who is no longer about to post on the forum.

In the interest of fairness I will make a short statement that will clarify what Lock & Load actually said about Hymee's exhaust.

"I had mentioned that my exhaust happened to be getting louder and there was no mention of hollowness , I am more than happy with my exhaust and dont care what its packed with . " (slight edit by me)

Now let's get on with the turbo installation show... :)

Gomez 10-01-2005 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by Ciao
Was it really neccesary to say that??? :confused:

Yeah Dave, it was. Do you or this dude from S.A have any idea who makes Hymee's mufflers? I know.....and I think some people here are in for a surprise.

I too have two small children and I am perfectly happy to have them sit in the back of my car over the top of my fume filled plastic gas tank. Why? Because it is perfectly safe, that's why.

If you are going to carry on and cast about mistruths regarding the safety of products being sold to the public, be prepared to weather the storm buddy.

Gomez.

timbo 10-01-2005 07:03 PM

I did hope this thread could be kept straight, but hey, it's yours Dave, so you can do whatever.....

Dave, we're all interested in what you are doing, but you need to lose the attitude in how it's expressed...especially the aspersions. The rest of us reading this thread are keen to find out what people can do with FI, and we're following ALL developments. Hymee is a long term contributor to the forum and to developing products that have enhanced the car, at a very good price. There are no safety or quality problems with them at all. He gives advice willingly and timelessly to people that ask the right way. Through that, and the information he has gathered and shared with us over the last couple of years, he has respect -- heaps of it. If you have a private difference of opinion with him I'd suggest you might address that directly with him rather than spraying it here...'cos that won't earn you any respect, and I guess that's what you're doing this for...isn't it?

Ciao 10-01-2005 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by xxup
misquoted statement made on behalf of someone who is no longer about to post on the forum.

no mention of hollowness , :)


So this is a witch hunt over a word Hollowness. :)

Thats cool ive substantially answered to that comment in the OZ forum

https://www.rx8club.com.au/forum/vie...hp?p=7243#7243

Dont shoot me But ive always known about hymees exhaust being fiberglass packed , but never publicly mentioned it ..Remember it was someone else ( sorry Carl )

If we have to talk exhausts start a thread somewhere else remember this is about my turbo install / design

Thanx

Dave

Ciao 10-01-2005 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by timbo
I did hope this thread could be kept straight, but hey, it's yours Dave, so you can do whatever.....

Il say it for the last time ..I HAVE MADE NO ATTACKS ON HYMEE AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH HIM !

there you go nuf said lets move on !

Yours pissed offingly

dave

CarlRX8 10-01-2005 09:32 PM

I am so sorry Ciao to drag you into a forum bashing

It was me that stated the fiberglass thing ,not Ciao . :mad:

There was not one mention of a side attack from ANYONE!! .Whoever knows what a side attack is anyway .Sounds like a heart condit.

Its a safety issue hear not a beat up Hymee issue .

Is'nt that what a forum is about ,informing RX8 owners and( all rotary owners) of the risks ?

I dont realy care about ciao shmow hymmens shmymens or anybody else ,what's important is the facts !!

Let the Dyno Speak for itself , and if its really as good as Ciao reckons ,I am very interested ,and as we all know ,its all gonna come down to the "bang for bux"


HOW MUCH $$$$$$$ CIAO???????

Carl

Jambos 10-01-2005 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by Wildcard
Without intending to hijack this thread, can you please educate us on why Rotary engines and fiberglass mufflers dont mix?

Carl, you still did not answer Wildcard's question.

dracoMJB 10-01-2005 10:38 PM

From what has been said so far in this thread there is apparantly a reputation for fibreglass packed mufflers to catch fire due to the excess of heat in the exhaust.

Some quick research on ausrotary seems to indicate that older RX's with turbos have been running fibreglass mufflers but that the excessive pressure "pulses" from the rotary engine can cause the fibreglass to be pushed out because it just isn't strong enough, so the muffler ends up over time reducing in effectiveness.

Let's not forget that there are also a lot of statements being made about rotary engines since the RX-8 came out that only apply to the older rotary engines. The main one I can think of is the Mineral Oil / Synthetic oil. The Renesis Rotary is, according to Mazda, supposed to be able to handle synthetic but because the older rotary engines don't there are statments made that say that you should not use synthetic oil in the RX-8.

I don't have the expertise to know whether the RX-8 and Fibreglass Mufflers = bad but I'm sure that Hymee will either know now or will find out by the time his supercharger project is complete due to the amount of testing he will be conducting, and I'd be surprised if his test car didn't have a Hymee Exhaust. :)

rotarenvy 10-01-2005 11:24 PM

some quotes from:
http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/fibrmufl.htm

"Selamet also said that glass fibre can better withstand the high temperatures produced in modern exhaust systems, and potentially even insulate the car from that heat."

"Historically, though, the North American auto industry has been skeptical about using filling in mufflers, and rightly so, Selamet said. Early European designs used basalt wool, which is packed in short fibres. Studies have shown that over time, these short fibres break up and blow out in the exhaust stream.

Then the car gets louder, Selamet said."

I couldn't find any info that said glass fibre was flammable, only info that house insulation batts are non-flammable, then there is the glassfibre insulation people wrap round their exhaust manifolds and other car insulations made from glass fibre etc.

maybe a hot exhaust can melt the glassfibre into marbles and make the exhaust noisy, but a fire is highly unlikely and it would be enclosed in a metal can.

conclusion: glass mufflers possibly deteriorate over time but are likely to be safe.

unless someone has evidence to the contrary then the exhaust argument is finished and the thread can go back to a discussion of a custom turbo install.

Hymee 10-02-2005 12:42 AM

As an attempt to keep the side issue separate, and leave this thread for Ciao's turbo development effort, please go here:

Glass-Fibre/Wool packed mufflers

Cheers,
Hymee.

MissyK 10-02-2005 01:52 AM

So..........."ANYWAY"

Did i read somewhere that you getting it dynoed next week Dave? or soon? Sounds exciting!!

Revolver 10-02-2005 09:44 PM

Whoa, who said a long weekend was relaxing. :eek:

Look forward to hearing more about your install Dave and best wishes for a good result. :)

CarlRX8 10-03-2005 08:32 PM

Wish I could be there at the Nationals and see your creation in the flesh,but from S.A its about a zillion dollars in petrol at $1.40 p/ltr to get there . :eek:
Carl

Revolver 10-03-2005 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by CarlRX8
Wish I could be there at the Nationals and see your creation in the flesh,but from S.A its about a zillion dollars in petrol at $1.40 p/ltr to get there . :eek:
Carl

A certain molar drill merchant is going from SA so at least you'd have company! ;)

Come on, it's only money. :D :D

takahashi 10-03-2005 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by Revolver
A certain molar drill merchant is going from SA so at least you'd have company! ;)

Come on, it's only money. :D :D

What if I tell you all that I am missing my little ms Taka's first birthday to be at the track with you guys?

I think I deserve something for this commitment LOL :D

Revolver 10-03-2005 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by takahashi
I think I deserve something for this commitment LOL :D

Mate, I'm sure your wife has and will continue to reward you for this commitment. ;) :p :D :D

Gibbo 10-03-2005 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by CarlRX8
Wish I could be there at the Nationals and see your creation in the flesh,but from S.A its about a zillion dollars in petrol at $1.40 p/ltr to get there . :eek:
Carl

I'll do you a trade, I am in Adelaide fo a conference that weekend, so we'll swap cars at the airport, you take mine to the nationals and I will drive yours around Adelaide. :D

Revolver 10-03-2005 11:28 PM


Originally Posted by Gibbo
I'll do you a trade, I am in Adelaide fo a conference that weekend, so we'll swap cars at the airport, you take mine to the nationals and I will drive yours around Adelaide. :D

Bling Bling Alert Carl!!! :p :D :D :D

You'll leave town with a posse and the phone numbers of several girls who 'work for a living'. ;)

SickestRx_8ghini 10-03-2005 11:29 PM

Is there anyway, someone can give me the Greddy exhaust manifold, I will buy it off from someone who has an extra one

Gibbo 10-04-2005 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by SickestRx_8ghini
Is there anyway, someone can give me the Greddy exhaust manifold, I will buy it off from someone who has an extra one


Oh wait I will check my garage ....it was in there beside the spare supercharger and turbo kits that I kept lying around.

REV " Bling Bling Alert Carl!!!

You'll leave town with a posse and the phone numbers of several girls who 'work for a living'. "

Oh come on that is a bit harsh....not all of them work, some just give it away ;)

Revolver 10-04-2005 06:17 PM

hehehehe - lucky you. :D

CarlRX8 10-05-2005 09:49 AM

hi i hope its ok to hi jack Carls keyboard,its his little sister JAMIN i want to know how manny ponies is the oz kit pushing.has it been on the dyno yet?"ciao",cause my bro want"s to supercharge his Rx8,because turbo's are awsome,but wouldnt most guys want to be BLOWN ??????oh sh*!t carls comming by all

Revolver 10-05-2005 06:57 PM

Either put a legrope on that sister of yours Carl or...send her to the Nats. ;) :D :D


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