Getting hail damage repaired - Is this right?
01-23-2008, 07:13 PM
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Getting hail damage repaired - Is this right?
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I took my car in to get it quoted from my panel beater and he said that the car is going to be fixed by pushing out the dents and then sanding them and re-spraying?
I assume this isn't paintless dent removal which i don't mind too much because i wouldn't mind a full-respray to get rid of all the miscellaneous scratches, swirls and the deep key mark i have on the passenger door.
He said there wouldn't be any filling but now i'm confused because i thought the only way dents could be fixed was to either replace the panel, push it out with PDR or fill it with putty.
If he's going to push them out then why does he need to sand it down and re-spray? I mean, if you're going to go to the trouble of pushing it out wouldn't you just do a paintless dent removal job?
Confused.
But glad my 8 can finally show its face again.
I took my car in to get it quoted from my panel beater and he said that the car is going to be fixed by pushing out the dents and then sanding them and re-spraying?
I assume this isn't paintless dent removal which i don't mind too much because i wouldn't mind a full-respray to get rid of all the miscellaneous scratches, swirls and the deep key mark i have on the passenger door.
He said there wouldn't be any filling but now i'm confused because i thought the only way dents could be fixed was to either replace the panel, push it out with PDR or fill it with putty.
If he's going to push them out then why does he need to sand it down and re-spray? I mean, if you're going to go to the trouble of pushing it out wouldn't you just do a paintless dent removal job?
Confused.
But glad my 8 can finally show its face again.
01-23-2008, 07:23 PM
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Depends on if there are any creases in the dents.
Paint less dent removal only works if it is smooth dent kind of spoon shaped and there is no cracking in the paint or too much stretching of the metal.
Surprised he is not going to try the paint less method first though unless he doesn't do it or in his experience knows it is not going to work.
Paint less dent removal only works if it is smooth dent kind of spoon shaped and there is no cracking in the paint or too much stretching of the metal.
Surprised he is not going to try the paint less method first though unless he doesn't do it or in his experience knows it is not going to work.
01-23-2008, 07:42 PM
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Hail dents are easy to get out ... problem is there's a lot of them! And no it won't be paintless, as it'd take too long ... and if they didn't paint over hte welds you'd end up with little round weld spots on your panels.
So yer, full respray! That's really good news!
So yer, full respray! That's really good news!
01-23-2008, 07:45 PM
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It does make sense. That is how they generally fix, they push it back into place. They fill it etc if there are cracks.
It is an insurance job, and you will get a certain warranty with the job from the panel beater (well my 1 gives a lifetime warranty on jobs) so if they dont do it properly...
It is an insurance job, and you will get a certain warranty with the job from the panel beater (well my 1 gives a lifetime warranty on jobs) so if they dont do it properly...
01-23-2008, 08:29 PM
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A lot of it depends on your insurer.
I would check with them before you do anything.
Find one of their repairers and you won't have to do any running around.
I would check with them before you do anything.
Find one of their repairers and you won't have to do any running around.
01-23-2008, 10:20 PM
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We had paintless pull out hundreds of dents from our Odyssey. Nice discount if you have over 50 in a panel. The hood was declared to be a goner by the paint shop, but painless gave it a try and it came out pretty well.
I would try paintless first, and see if you can not pay them for a panel they don't fix.
I would try paintless first, and see if you can not pay them for a panel they don't fix.
01-23-2008, 11:08 PM
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But the blokes i went down to seem to be top guys.
I have another dent in one of the same quarter panels that got heavily hailed on and he offered to fix it free of charge. It's a pretty good sized crunch that i got quoted to cost about $1000 to fix on its own.
Couldn't quite believe it myself and don't quite believe it yet and i made sure to check with him that insurance wouldn't cover it and he said no no my car is a huge job and he'll do it for free.
We'll see how it goes, i've got to deal with the sh*theads at the assessment centre tommorrow.
I have a friend who works for a leading insurance company doing the number crunching setting premiums and excesses and i never fail to let him know everytime i see him how much of a douchebag he is.
01-24-2008, 12:52 AM
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Justcar are not too bad Mogley. I used to be insured with them and I had an accident. I had to get the two quotes, 1 from my repairer and another from their own. Have you got two? Once you get the two quotes that is when the just car assessor will check your car and then pick which repairer gets the job.
Regarding that freeby he may do for you, I'd try get it in writin, like perhaps just pass a comment saying you'ld like a copy or it written down how many panels need work etc cuz u may forget ra ra ra, doesnt hurt to play the ditz card sometimes. You just dont want him to turn around and say Nah.. you have to pay for that 1. upto you what you do with that 1.
Regarding that freeby he may do for you, I'd try get it in writin, like perhaps just pass a comment saying you'ld like a copy or it written down how many panels need work etc cuz u may forget ra ra ra, doesnt hurt to play the ditz card sometimes. You just dont want him to turn around and say Nah.. you have to pay for that 1. upto you what you do with that 1.
01-24-2008, 01:38 AM
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01-24-2008, 03:46 PM
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Actually, I suspect some ******* has opened his SUV/truck door onto my guard, judging by the position and nature of it.
BTW, sorry Trev but in my experience calling the police for minor civil matters like that is usually a waste of time (theirs and mine).
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Oh, and the wonderful fourth category - the internal mob.
01-24-2008, 06:02 PM
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Depends which mini-terrorist it was...I'm frightened of the girl one!
Actually, I suspect some ******* has opened his SUV/truck door onto my guard, judging by the position and nature of it.
BTW, sorry Trev but in my experience calling the police for minor civil matters like that is usually a waste of time (theirs and mine).
Actually, I suspect some ******* has opened his SUV/truck door onto my guard, judging by the position and nature of it.
BTW, sorry Trev but in my experience calling the police for minor civil matters like that is usually a waste of time (theirs and mine).
It is a waste of time. My work is in a service road, and the street at the end of the service road, you have to enter the main road then go into the service road to get to my work. Wellthe end of the little road that goes into main road is only a left turn lane now. No1 can enter, you can only exit and turn left. On the main road, to get into the service lane there is a u-turn lane. Now.. that uturn lane is slightly further down from the service lane. The little road that comes out is further up from it also. People decide to drive the wrong way down the road to get into that uturn lane to turn right (when coming out of the little road). The number of times ive been going into the uturn lane (off main road) to turn into service lane and some cars pulled up infront of me from the little road is amazing. Almost had a few accidents and thing is they abuse YOU because you blocking their view..
I rang the local police which is only up the road to tell them of the matter. Bah. They couldnt give a rats ***. But feel free to pull me over for going over the speed limit when the signs have been switched
01-24-2008, 06:03 PM
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Until proven wrong, I rekon they fall mainly into the first category with only the very few that actually give a damn.
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Lets define a 'minor' matter. It depends....
A lady came in with her Suzuki recently to make an incident report. When my counter person asked if we had to report minor dents, I outlined our policy of $2.5K in damages, nil injuries, exchanging names and addresses etc.
I nearly fell over when she showed me a basketball sized fender dent and a quote for nearly $5000....!
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You always get those few uncaring in every job Kall....and theres always a way of dealing with them.
When the police arrest someone, its just one part of the Justice system and its the Prosecutor who then becomes involved. Their job is based on the introduction of evidentiary material with uniformity and control.
When you consider their work load, and how much Police Prosecutors get paid compared to lawyers...they come in as my fifth.
When the police arrest someone, its just one part of the Justice system and its the Prosecutor who then becomes involved. Their job is based on the introduction of evidentiary material with uniformity and control.
When you consider their work load, and how much Police Prosecutors get paid compared to lawyers...they come in as my fifth.
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Agreed - most have my respect for the efficient job they do with very little prep time. Of course, some like to play sharp but that happens in every profession.
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Hey guys
I took my car in to get it quoted from my panel beater and he said that the car is going to be fixed by pushing out the dents and then sanding them and re-spraying?
I assume this isn't paintless dent removal which i don't mind too much because i wouldn't mind a full-respray to get rid of all the miscellaneous scratches, swirls and the deep key mark i have on the passenger door.
He said there wouldn't be any filling but now i'm confused because i thought the only way dents could be fixed was to either replace the panel, push it out with PDR or fill it with putty.
If he's going to push them out then why does he need to sand it down and re-spray? I mean, if you're going to go to the trouble of pushing it out wouldn't you just do a paintless dent removal job?
I took my car in to get it quoted from my panel beater and he said that the car is going to be fixed by pushing out the dents and then sanding them and re-spraying?
I assume this isn't paintless dent removal which i don't mind too much because i wouldn't mind a full-respray to get rid of all the miscellaneous scratches, swirls and the deep key mark i have on the passenger door.
He said there wouldn't be any filling but now i'm confused because i thought the only way dents could be fixed was to either replace the panel, push it out with PDR or fill it with putty.
If he's going to push them out then why does he need to sand it down and re-spray? I mean, if you're going to go to the trouble of pushing it out wouldn't you just do a paintless dent removal job?
Panel beaters use a tool called "Easy out". They come in various sizes to suit the various sized dents.
A tool spot weld a rod onto the centre of the dent & then the guy uses a slide hammer to pull the dent up. When happy with the repair, he twists the rod which breaks the spot weld. The mark is then filed & sanded flat.
Find next dent & repeat process.
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