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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 08:00 AM
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Engine cover???

What do you guys and girls (Kall and any others) (make urself known especially if your single and in queensland lol) with your engine covers? do you leave them on or take off? Wouldnt it retain quite alot of the heat? cause mine get frackin hot quickly.
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 04:17 PM
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my engine cover has been sitting on the garage floor for the past 2.5 years.
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 11:26 PM
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I was looking at it when I bought the car and came to the conclusion that it's there for the reason of airflow. Mazda tend not to put things like that in just to look good.

That and I think it'd be there to insulate the bonnet from heat ... as from memory without looking at the bonnet up, there's no insulation on the underside.
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 11:58 PM
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AFAIK, the RX8 does not suffer from the kind of under-bonnet heat issues that could afflict past rotaries (especially the FD, which can often be found hood up after each track session). So I don't think you need be concerned about it causing that kind of problem.

I've left mine on. I think it improves the engine bay presentation. It does get in the way when checking oil but it only takes a second to remove.

I'm not aware of an air flow benefit but it wouldn't surprise me.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 12:01 AM
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Well ... it's unusual that Mazda would put it there if it wasn't needed. If it wasn't needed, they'd charge you $400 for it
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 12:05 AM
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Well ... it's unusual that Mazda would put it there if it wasn't needed. If it wasn't needed, they'd charge you $400 for it
Yes but some engine covers perform a purely cosmetic role (hide something that looks average) and others have a functional purpose as well. I'm not disagreeing with the idea that the RX8 cover might do the latter, I just don't recall reading anything specific about it.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 12:29 AM
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im sure there is enough air flow either with the engine cover on or off when the car is in motion. by having the engine cover on doesnt give you any air flow when stationary.

it is more of an cosmetic issue imo..... (just like every other european cars)
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 12:36 AM
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Well, I opened up my bonnet the other day to top up the oil, and I couldn't stand the heat coming from under it. With the cover on it was fine, with it off it was too hot to keep my face above it for more than half a minute or so.

In regard to european cars having it as a cosmetic option, Japanese cars aren't european.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 12:44 AM
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Well, I opened up my bonnet the other day to top up the oil, and I couldn't stand the heat coming from under it. With the cover on it was fine, with it off it was too hot to keep my face above it for more than half a minute or so.
That sounds to me like you're talking more about a subjective personal comfort issue rather than something that will assist the car's performance and/or cooling.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 12:47 AM
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Well, I haven't seen it happen to an RX8, but I'd imagine the paint would peel off like it did on my mate's FD when he pulled off the insulation under his bonnet ... *shrugs*
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 12:50 AM
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Well, I haven't seen it happen to an RX8, but I'd imagine the paint would peel off like it did on my mate's FD when he pulled off the insulation under his bonnet ... *shrugs*
Oh, IC now. You're thinking that if the engine cover is removed, it'll allow heat to damage the inside of the bonnet. Is that what you mean by air flow?

I've not heard of any paint or heat damage being caused by leaving the cover off.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Revolver
Oh, IC now. You're thinking that if the engine cover is removed, it'll allow heat to damage the inside of the bonnet. Is that what you mean by air flow?

I've not heard of any paint or heat damage being caused by leaving the cover off.
Not really ... that's what I mean about it as a heat shield.

Heat damage to your paint won't be seen until around the 5-10 year mark ... you wouldn't have seen it yet if it's happening. I'd rather not find out to be perfectly honest.

Airflow ... well, it is essentially diverting air, but in my MX6 I had little ducts in the stone guards and things that pushed air against the transmission and stuff. I also had a little air deflector that kept the nose down, and it actually worked because I took it off and it caused the car to understeer a noticeable amount when travelling at speed (140+ especially). Which is why I think Mazda's put it htere for a good reason ... they don't add stuff like that on with the package otherwise.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 01:02 AM
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I really can't see the internal engine cover doing those latter things you mention but I could be wrong.

Never mind, it's an arid debate anyway.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 01:25 AM
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You may need one of these to measure the wind speed under your bonnet

http://www.kidwind.org/windshopfiles...rsloggers.html
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 03:52 AM
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Thanks for the replies, friggin i forgot to subscribe to the thread after creating it lol, wondering why noone had answered checked and theres like 14 replies.

Yeah i must admit it does make the bay look a lot nicer and cleaner, but i thought it would improve airflow if taken off.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 05:37 AM
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Japanese cars aren't european.
but the sad thing is that almost every jap company is moving towards european styling/setup.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by EZZY
but the sad thing is that almost every jap company is moving towards european styling/setup.
Umm ... you think that's sad? Japs have always copied off everyone else anyway.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 06:15 PM
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Japs have always copied off everyone else anyway.
disagree (to a certain degree)..... whether it is automotive related or not.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by EZZY
disagree (to a certain degree)..... whether it is automotive related or not.
Oh, pish posh ... you can't disagree to a certain degree ... you're sitting on the fence!

I was talking in the context of automotive design.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 08:43 PM
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sexeh?
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 08:45 PM
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Very nice Drewman
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by DVS RX8
but theres no vents for the warm air to escape so I dont see the point ?
the engine bay isnt sealed.... there are gaps between the front bar/bonnet, bonnet/guards & bonnet/windscreen, and when the car is in motion, there's air flow.
if the engine cover absorbs heat (& the engine can get very very hot at times), wouldnt it be a health & safety issue?
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 06:38 AM
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Rjt,

I not single, not in QLD....holidayed there and want to live. Love my engine cover....keeps the dust of the shiny stuff......

If you don't like it leave it off....if you like what Drewman did emulate that....who cares what it does......it doesn't change the performance none.....
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 07:17 AM
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Hi Rotor Convert,

Yeah its a lovely place and damn to the other two answers , but when i pop the hood you cant see the shiny stuff!!!!! and people dont get to see the engine and say where the FRACK does all the power come from? that little thing!

If only it did change the performance just think..... lol now thats over, its good to get other peoples opinions
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