Grizzly8

This ALFA ROMEO 8C COMPETIOZONE for a mere 80,000 pounds .

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/first_o...sid=156&page=1

MICHAEL

Revolver

Dud link Michael.

Grizzly8

It works for me must be gremlins

Michael

Revolver

It's cool - it worked in the other thread.

takahashi

That is a cute little car!

Rotor Convert

I have all the stats on this car from Ateco. It sounds really great....might be a replacement for the 8. Wonder how this one will depreciate?

Bet it's hard to reverse park though Bit spensive & I love Alfa's

kunz

Looks awesome!

I test drove this car lol j/k.

Its actually one of the selectable cars in Test Drive unlimited for the xbox360 and it handles welllllll in the game compared to other cars in the same class. Driving a simulated and the real thing are two different things i know, but yeah that game is fun and very, very detailed.

takahashi

Xbox warrior... do the real thing mate

kunz

and proud of it hahahaha

They offered, I said no. lol (i wish) haha

EZZY

there are better and sexier cars out there for 80,000 quid......

takahashi

Buy a GT3 and you still have some change - you are right EZZY

Revolver

I still think they dropped the ball on the rear end treatment.

EZZY

or a carerra4s for around 65,000 quid

deano

It'll depreciate like a rock - but its still an awesome looking car. I like it.

Richard Paul

iTrader: (5)

No competition. Who would you rather date, a German or an Italian?

The Alfa is new and exciting, has soul, maybe a touch of Bugotti 57 in it.
Better yet it has a Maserati engine which is really a Ferrari designed/built unit.
Just the look and sound of the engine makes extra money look cheap.
BTW all Italian cars from the Alfa on up have soul, something you just can't bolt on.
If you never own one you'll never know what I mean.

Looking at the German and I say "haven't I met you before in 1963?"
You may have been to the gym, gotten some breast implants and liposuction but I still recognize you. And you still bore me.

Grizzly8

Richard i liked your analogy on nationalities and cars can you explain then why so many RX8 owners are saying SAYONARA to the RX8


Michael

Rotor Convert

Just for your information!

ATECO GM David Stone told us at our August Club night that there will only be 500 8C's made: 250 spiders and 250 coupes and ALL left hand drive. AR will probably return to the USA market with the 8C only next year, and then with the successor of the 159 by 2010-2012. Apparently ATECO owner Neville Crichton has ordered the only one for Australia. (bummer)

So for all those that don't like it don't worry you won't be able to buy one until Uncle Neville gets bored with it!

EZZY

who you'd like to date is your choice.... dont care.

ferrari dont excite me. and the thought of me behind a wheel of a alfa is enough to put me off.... knowing my dad will be getting an alfa isnt helping the case.
if you want a ferrari engine, why not get a real ferrari to start with?

and having an alfa with a ferrari engine isnt cheap.... oh i cant afford to get a real fezza, so i'd will settle for an alfa with a fezza engine.....

is there a reason why i need to know alfa has a soul twice from the same post?

thanks for the tip. i think i will stick with the german vehicle ownship experiences i have had.

why change if it isnt break.... some ppl just like to play catch up....

breast implants + lipssuction =

Rotor Convert

Richard I and the WD own 5 Alfas of various ages. They all come with soul granted as well as a depreciation tag faster than grease lightning. What they all have though is a serious affection for rust!! We have them ranging from the 60's right through to the late 80's. These are the ones with soul, noise and speed and free body lightning as they age.

The new ones are soul-less, homogenised and sold by people who see them as the Daewoo of the Italian car range. Well our dealer here does anyway.

I'm in the Alfa Club here, looked at the 159 and the Brera and bought an 8 cause I knew I would like it more.

For me the only Alfa that really gets me going is the Diva....love it and I reckon it would suit me

Richard Paul

iTrader: (5)

Ezzy, the only reply I have for you is that I've had at least one Ferrari in my garage for the last 30 odd years. My first was a 275 bought in 1968 and I've never sold it.
My last (beside the 275) was a Testarossa. I've had the 8's cyd ones but don't feel they are Ferrari, ya gotta have 12.

I've owned two Porche, one was a 930 which I thought was dangerous and the 928 wich I converted to Chevy power by the time it had 9000 miles on it.
It carried the California licence number PORCHVY. I still have the old engine with a turbo on it if you want it.



The reason I feel the 8 is losing apeal with owners is the lack of power and my own personal problem with it (since mine has power) is lack of quality on the inside and paint on the outside. It's been wearing on me lately that's why I'm ordering a new Vette.

Revolver

Okay, I'll play (in the spirit of good natured debate).

Can you really form a concluded view about Porsche's without having owned a 911? I mean, 930 - pfft, and the 928 was only made as a sop to the non-enthusiast American market (which feels more comfortable with the idea of a V8 up the front rather than a boxer motor down the back).

Your comments and car ownership history otherwise demonstrate a bias for Ferrari and other italian cars, so do you think you're being objective?

Soul is also an intangible, subjective concept. I prefer my soul not to come with rust and unreliability.

I've no doubt AR will sell all 500 of these jiggers, just like Ferrari will continue selling everything it makes, because it is careful to ensure supply never meets demand. Comparatively speaking, the 911 has been a volume seller for over 40 years. Were all those purchasers dull conformist types who wanted cars with no soul? Doubt it.

Richard Paul

iTrader: (5)

You may be right but let's examine it. List of my cars as follows does not include many US built mundain sedans and trucks as there is no argument they are of no interest here. They were just tools.

US includes mostly Vetts:

'63 convertable
'66 427 coupe
'69 convert
'76 coupe
'79 coupe
'81 coupe
'91 coupe
'07 coupe on order

The only other US car of interest was the '64 Studebaker GT Hawk factory race car number 4 from the Bonneville record runs that set 53 international records. Then I ran the NHRA drag races in full '64 with it. Ran it at Bonneville in '64, '65, '66 With first in class or records almost all the time with two different size engines blown and unblown. Drove it to school also during the week.

'64 Avanti coupe

British:
'74 Jensen Intercepter 440
'78 Rolls Royce Corniche Convertable
'66 Jaguar XK-E convertable
'80 Caterham Super Seven with a Cosworth BDC in it

German:
'80 Porche 930 which I thought was a 911 on steroids
'81 Porche 928 with a blown 350 Chevy in it
'67 restored 280 SE convertable

My girlfreind has a 500SEL and beleive me I hate it. When we take it, I let her drive. And I make a bad passenger.

Italian:
'66 275 GTB/6c
'70 365 GT 2+2
'77 308 GTB
'81 512 Boxer
'85 410 2+2
'89 512 Testarossa

I want a 599 GTB but just can't do it at the moment.

'86 Maserati QuadraPort

I never owned an Alfa but my roomate did have a roadster.
Then there was the little 1600 or 1700 coupe that changed my mind about cars forever. I was racing a big block Chevy powered Avanti at the dry lakes when with my first wife and my crew went ahead with my truck and race car. I think I had the 427 vette then but for some reason it was unavailable so my father in law lent mt his Alfa coupe which I didn't even think I wanted to drive because it was a 4 banger. God forbid anyone in racing should see me with only half enough pistons.

Well I took off very early in the morning alone heading out the "old road" over the big dips then out to the flat roads of the desert. Once I had that car in it's element I fell in love with it. I just cruised that little thing without fear along roads that had flash flood dips here and there at 120+ MPH. I wanted that car but the bastard sold it without ever telling me. That is what introduced me to drivers cars and my love for Italians. I love Italian everything, I should be Italian.

I love the country, people, food and most of all the cars.
So I guess you are correct, I'm bias.
But wait........... I loved some of those other cars.
Some of the Vetts I liked
I liked the Jensen Intercepter.
The Caterham was more fun then I can tell you about.
The 928 after it had the blown chevy in it was a great car. It was in four magazines.
I liked the E type too.
But each and every Italian car was a work of art and gave pleasure beyond the sum of it's parts. Including my father in laws Alfa.

EZZY

good on ya... guess your ***** is bigger than mine.

agree with the 8, but then again, it is a jap vehicle after all.... no where near as well built as most of the european vehicles.. (no, not the ones made in south africa etc...)

Richard Paul

iTrader: (5)

[QUOTE=EZZY] guess your ***** is bigger than mine.

I intend to show this to Kat Woman when she gets here.

agree with the 8, but then again, it is a jap vehicle after all.... no where near as well built as most of the european vehicles..


They do ok on the Lexus but I guess they charge alot more. Still it shows they know about it and it really doesn't cost them that much at the manufacturing level.
Add a couple or three thousand to the car and it will be several levels higher in the overall scale of things.

It reminds me of Studebaker when they closed, they just wouldn't step up to the plate when the chance was there. They had the Avanti but they wouldn't spend the money to modernize it or their production line. They could have pulled that out by just buying the chassis from GM for less then they could build their own. That stupid engine and I know alot about them as I built many. They could buy a 327 from GM for a bunch less then it cost to build that old peice of cast iron. Heavier by over 100 lbs and limited to 304 cu in. The Chevy is smaller too.
The 327 could make more power unblown then the Stude did with the Paxton.

Revolver

An enviable driving history Richard and I don't think anyone's calling your track record into question beyond the immediate issue.

From everything I've read and heard about Porka's in the early '80's, I'm not surprised you were underwhelmed. However, did you at least test-drive the current 911 before ordering your new Corvette?

I like many things Italian too and there are any number of Ferrari's I'd love to own, but I don't think the brilliance of many German cars can be dismissed so easily.

Put it this way - if I ever get to the Ferrari owning experience, there's a fair bet a Porsche or two will be stepping stones along the way.