PoLaK

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Hey guys I wanna look into some light auto-X wheels naturally I want to go with SSR comps, but looking for alternatives as well. I find that if you Google wheel weights you'll get a wide variation up to 2lbs on the same wheel... not much it would seem till you try to spin it.

Could someone in the know gimme weights on these, I don't want the offset to be any smaller then stock because I'll be getting a Big brake Kit come Jan. and I want to eventually fit a larger tire on there, but I want the best trade off between weight savings and wheel strength from bending... suggestions... I'm thinking 40 because of the tire size I wanna go to.

I have 245/40 Michelin Pilot Sport 2's on the car now, recent posts say that 275's will work on the 8" stock wheel with stock camber and suspension with an offset of 40 I'm assuming SSR or Volk will be no exception.

Will 275s rub with a 19” wheel?

I want either 18x8" or 19x8"
SSR (Tire Rack only says 18" for the Comps and 15" for the Comp-X do they come in other sizes?)

SSR Competion Anthracite w/Mach Lip
weights for 18 and 19" offset 40+?

SSR Comp-X Anthracite Painted
Weights for 18" and 19" offset 40+?

Volks (no direct linking flash site) http://www.rayswheels.co.jp/indexe.html
What are the lightest Volk wheels?
The ones I like far as looks go:

Volk LE37T
Weights for 18" and 19" offset of 40+?

Volk SF Challenges
Weights for 18" and 19" offset of (I don't understand what offset A B and C is)

Lightest Gram Light?

ULLLOSE

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Stay away from the 19"s, there are no good DOT race tires in 19". Why do you want to run only 8" wide? If you are doing big brakes and orther mods you would be out of the stock class. You need to get the 18X9.5" wheels that Good-win racing sells, 17.2 lbs. You can run a 275-285 with that wheel.

btw 18X8 SSR comp for the RX8 is a 48mm offset and is 16.3 lbs. We use a 245-35-18 on this but have also had 265-35-18 on them with zero problems.

PoLaK

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Mainly want 18x8's to save on weight and because well if you can get 275's to fit on those theres really no point in going with a wider rim?

ULLLOSE

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There is a very big difference between a 275 on a 8" and a 10". In stock class we will pinch tires on small rims because we have to. That is not the best setup. Also keep in mind offset is not what makes the wheel clear big brakes. You can have a 35mm that wont clear and a 50mm that will. The wheel design will make more difference than the offset. In SM/SM2 where most anything goes they run as big a wheel as they can fit. You will see guys with 10-11" wide wheels with 275-285 tires and 315s on 12" wide wheels. In CSP the Miatas run 13X9" wheels with 225 tires.

crossbow

Be wary of SSR's on pothole laden roads. (Especially if your running a xxx/40/ or less. I just wiped out and cracked 2 SSR 17x8 Comp's on 245/40/17's from wacking a particularly nasty pothole on route 1. Semi Solid Forged isn't forged. Its better then cast, but they aren't a fikse. (http://www.fikse.com)

And before you can say...blah blah avoid potholes, blah blah...the pothole was the entire lane. I did dodge about 3/4 of it, but you really can't go into opposing traffic for very long.

Now I'm following the system of cheap, light, and tiny. I guess once you blow a thousand dollars in wheels once, you don't make the same mistake twice.

Not to mention I can't even replace them for another 4-5 months, because thats how long the backorder is since the company declared bankrupcy.

PoLaK

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Let me ask you a quick question if i just go head with lightened slotted rotors form Racing Brake instead of the entire big brake kit will I still be allowed to run in BS?
I know its technically against the rules since replacement rotors must match OE weight spec but is someone really going to care/catch that at tech and about them being slotted?

Only reason im asking is because the Sreet Touring Class has put a 225 tire width restriction on cars and I really do not want to drive in Prepared because the line between good driver good car and good tuning gets a little blurry.

Let me put it a little more practically the SSR comps will likely have a street tire on them (the PS2's) since santa couldn't fit Kuhmo's down the chimmney. So for day to day use I'd perfer the reduction in unsprung weight then the decrease in stability using a 275mm tire on a 8inch rim.

Also I've never seen this question posed on the boards... since they allow you to swap parts lets say from an 06 Rx-8 to and 04 Rx-8 does the same apply for a MS Rx-8?

ULLLOSE

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HRE wheels are also forged... Guess what they have been banned from racing in the Viper racing series as well as a number of others due to wheel failures. You hit a big *** pot hole with a forged wheel instead of a cast wheel you just wasted a $1000 wheel instead of a $500 wheel. Also those Fikse wheels are 2+ lbs more than an SSR.

ULLLOSE

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No brake rotor changes in stock at all. Also the RX8 is not allowed in STS where you have a 225 tire limit. You can run a RX8 in BS, BSP, SM or STU. What mods have you done and what do you plan to do? Big brakes are allowed in STU or SM. There is no update backdate of parts from different years unless you go out of stock class.

The SSR 18X8 is 16.3. The 18X9.5 RPF1 is 17.2. The +.9lbs is well worth the width.

ULLLOSE

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In an nut shell things you can do in stock class:
DOT R tires any size that fits the wheels.
Wheels stock diameter and width. +/- 1/4" of offset allowed.
Cat back exhaust.
Air filter element may be removed or replaced. Airbox can not be modified.
Shocks, must be within +/- 1" overall length and spring pearch must be in stock location. You may have two adjustments on the shock.
Front swaybar may be removed or replaced, also front swaybar bushings and endlinks.
Alignment settings may be changed.
Spark plugs, wires and coils are open.

http://scca.com/_filelibrary/File/2006_solo_rules.pdf

TeamRX8

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you can get a larger tire than 245 on an 8" wheel but you won't get any bigger contact patch down, so you're just spinning extra mass for nothing plus they are usually larger diameter than 245/35-18 so you have taller effective gearing to work against too

sounds like you're not staying Stock-legal so IMO you should look at the 18 x 9.5 Enkeis from Goodwin Racing, 17# for $309 each

and don't get so worked up about acheiving absolute minimum wheel weight, low static weight does not always transfer into having the lowest rotating inertia and unless you are a big buck sponsored pro racer 2# isn't going to amount to much, but it's your wad to blow ...

how many times have I seen the guy with the lightest wheels get his @ss kicked? LOL, too many to count ...

PoLaK

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Sorry I was looking at the wrong section in the rule book, i didn't think STU had a tire width restricition. Anyway clutch and flywheel components are back to OE (not that they could check those anyway), beside that its only intake exhaust stuff, Cat not header back, and the sway is on the way (Just got ur e-mail Mark), im pretty much legal for BS except if i put those rotors on. I'm reluctant to go to STU with just a BBK and street 245's for the season it would pretty much put me out of contention.

PoLaK

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Option package conversions may be performed between specific
vehicles of a particular make and model, but only between
configurations from within a particular model year. Such
conversions must be totally complete and the resultant car must
meet all requirements of this Section. Alternate parts listed in a
factory parts manual are not authorized unless their use is
specifically referenced in the factory service manual or in a service
bulletin for the specific model.

Whats that mean then?

I'm going to be running stock suspension what do you think about this alignment?

-1.5 Camber (Front)
0 Toe
5.7 Camber

-1.0 Camber (Rear)
.12 Total Toe-in (Stock is .08)

I'm assuming no Volk or Gram light is anywhere near 16.3lbs?

ULLLOSE

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It means if you had a Sport or GT and wanted to make it into a Base you would have to take off the fogs, fender stakes, TC and DSC and anything else the sport has the base does not. Same also goes if you wanted to make a base into a sport or GT. This only works within the same year.

Front looks good, but I like more rear -camber. I dont think volk or gram has anything at this time. Part of the problem is offset. You can only go +/- 1/4" or about 6.3mm from stock. A lot of the rice wheels hae offsets that are not legal. There are a number of wheels that are legal in the 19lbs range.
STU does have a tire limit, 275 for 2wd and 245 for awd.

PoLaK

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So can things be bent so far that they would allow you to upgrade from an 04 GT to an 04 MS, or do they have a clause for that?

I'm asking because I would like to get MS or Koni shocks put on the car but would like to run MS springs as well not the OEM ones.

Still suggest this alignment with these suspension components?

ULLLOSE

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No such thing as a MS RX8 from the factory, so not an option for stock. Dealer installed options are not allowed in stock class. Also only US market cars and parts in stock.

PoLaK

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Will they give a hoot about the REVI intake since the box is about the same as Stock?

Whats the maximum offset I can go on the SSR's and remain legal so whatever stock is plus the 6.3mm ='s ?

ULLLOSE

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Yes to both questions.

I love it when guys show up with a mod that is not legal and say "well it does not make a difference". So they why do you have it? If you want to run in stock put back in your stock airbox.

The BS legal SSR's are 48mm.

TeamRX8

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he also likes having to run max rear rebound, lots of inside wheelspin, and getting beat off the line at ProSolo events ....

sigh ....

ULLLOSE

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Just check page 241 of the 2006 SCCA solo2 rules... All you need to know.


http://scca.com/_filelibrary/File/2006_solo_rules.pdf

TeamRX8

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yeah right, just keep referring to that every other time you've been beaten or are beaten in the future if anything it only proves how good you are at driving around a sh-tty setup with that level of driving talent you might have actually proven your true worth as a champion with a car of equal excellence underneath you

ULLLOSE

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Yep... If I ever get a good car I might be able to win again...

btw I cant find you anywhere in that book.

Oh yeah, no section for bitter also-rans.

TeamRX8

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sorry man, even if I won I'm man enough to admit it's only one event, just as I'm man enough to admit to being an also-ran, no bitterness involved

win again next year and I might believe you're as big of a legend as you now are in your own mind

ULLLOSE

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It is the one that counts. There was that prosolo win in the RX8 also and I did have to beat the 968 to get that one. I did not find a soft event like you did in TX.

TeamRX8

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look man, I lost miserably all year and have admitted as much here in other threads, you call my win in TX as being a soft win, which I have personally admitted it was, then go read the 968 drivers comments about that win you're bragging about, which I know you've seen, that says it all right there

you didn't win convincingly, you weren't the fastest driver either day, you're just a legend in your own mine, but certainly not among your fellow drivers

I've also stated in other threads that you're an excellent driver, but where this started was in setup; an excellent driver can still drive aroiund and win on a bad setup, but a bad driver is still a bad driver regardless, cars don't win, drivers do, so stop taking my questioning your setup as an affront to your ability to drive.

I'm tryng to tell you that you can be faster still, and all you can do is get hung up on your ego ...

Tigster

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