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Pretty sweet. With the return of the GTR, advent of the Lexus LF and new NSX coming... Mazda should go for a halo car too. Long live the 4 rotor engine!
Beautiful sound. I want one It's Christmas season you know...
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Uhhhh, it sounds like crap. All highly tuned rotaries do IMO. It sounds like my old shifter kart, but only when it was misfiring...
Ike,
You are as welcome to your opinions as much as anyone else but I couldn't differ with you more. It's amazing that someone who is into subarus would even consider talking about engines sounding like they are misfiring. The flat 4s always sound like they are misfiring.
Paul.
Ike,
You are as welcome to your opinions as much as anyone else but I couldn't differ with you more. It's amazing that someone who is into subarus would even consider talking about engines sounding like they are misfiring. The flat 4s always sound like they are misfiring.
Paul.
To me the only time boxers sound like there is something wrong with them is when they're idling. But when revved the do have a distinctive exhaust note, with a highly tuned rotary it's not so much an exhaust note as it is it sounding like someone forgot to put the oil in I have been to the dragstrip many times and a ported rotary is a very distintive sound, one that I don't find particularly pleasing... I don't think many people do.
I wish they would have turned the music down a little more, although you can definately hear that distinctive rotary sound. It sounds a little like a UPS truck idling with a missing a sparkplug...albeit a 500hp UPS truck. Go brown!
To me the only time boxers sound like there is something wrong with them is when they're idling. But when revved the do have a distinctive exhaust note, with a highly tuned rotary it's not so much an exhaust note as it is it sounding like someone forgot to put the oil in I have been to the dragstrip many times and a ported rotary is a very distintive sound, one that I don't find particularly pleasing... I don't think many people do.
That's only because you haven't heard the 787B racecar. Sweeeet!!
Wait a second, Ike I like you but someone who has a WRX boxer engine thinks a 4 rotor sounds like crap!!!!! That's a joke right? A 4 rotor is probably the worlds most sonorous sounding engine ever created. It outdoes any Ferrari or F1 engine in terms of beautiful music and that is a VERY tall order to accomplish. A 4 rotor is quite simply an eargasm. I will agree that there are some rotaries that do sound like crap. 2 reasons for this. First of all most high overlap ported engines do sound strange at part throttle due to misfire. High overlap can do that. At full throttle they can be quite nice. The biggest reason so many sound bad though is because the owners use crappy mufflers that give the exhaust note a tinny raspy Honda like characteristic. If more people would use larger mufflers, like those on the Mazda race cars, they'd actually get a very deep tough sounding exhaust that has no hint of raspiness. No one has truly heard beauty until they have heard the 787B or RX-792P rev up in person. It is truly beautiful. You could place those cars on a stage and sell tickets to the performance. Even some of the 2 rotor Mazda race cars sound very nice and very tough. It's all in the exhaust design.
Amen,amen,amen!!! The 4 rotor creates some of the most beautiful automotive music ever craeted. It is really similar to an F1 V12. I am not sure I prefer it to some of the 19000 rpm Renault V10s though. There's some audio and video tapings of that on Renault's F1 site: Unreal! I'm not casting my vote one way or another as yet.
Wait a second, Ike I like you but someone who has a WRX boxer engine thinks a 4 rotor sounds like crap!!!!! That's a joke right? A 4 rotor is probably the worlds most sonorous sounding engine ever created. It outdoes any Ferrari or F1 engine in terms of beautiful music and that is a VERY tall order to accomplish. A 4 rotor is quite simply an eargasm. I will agree that there are some rotaries that do sound like crap. 2 reasons for this. First of all most high overlap ported engines do sound strange at part throttle due to misfire. High overlap can do that. At full throttle they can be quite nice. The biggest reason so many sound bad though is because the owners use crappy mufflers that give the exhaust note a tinny raspy Honda like characteristic. If more people would use larger mufflers, like those on the Mazda race cars, they'd actually get a very deep tough sounding exhaust that has no hint of raspiness. No one has truly heard beauty until they have heard the 787B or RX-792P rev up in person. It is truly beautiful. You could place those cars on a stage and sell tickets to the performance. Even some of the 2 rotor Mazda race cars sound very nice and very tough. It's all in the exhaust design.
That may be so, but the first clip in this thread really doesn't sound good to me. The more recent clip that Nemesis8 posted sounds much better. To me the first clip sounds a lot like the awful sounding ported rotaries I've heard at the strip. Also, I think you're going a bit overboard by saying they sound better than any F1 or Ferrari engine. Here's a few clips, find me any street driven rotary that sounds anywhere near as good.
It's Christmas season you know...
I have been to the dragstrip many times and a ported rotary is a very distintive sound, one that I don't find particularly pleasing... I don't think many people do.
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