"The external input terminal" for Nav Sys
07-13-2004, 01:21 PM
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"The external input terminal" for Nav Sys
Hey, I was looking around the Mazda3 and Rx8 option sites in Mazda Japan (http://www.rx-8.mazda.co.jp/option/), and they have an accessory for both cars (in the pull down menu, 6th from the bottom). It's called the "The external input terminal" with this description (translated from babel fish) -
"The external input terminal (image ･ sound) XXYEN 12,600 (price including tax) image equipment and connection such as stock video camera are produced, can enjoy image with the load monitor. * For manufacturer option DVD navigation attaching car. * While travelling image is not indicated. * As for installation position inside console box."
Anyone know anything about it ? Like the Part Number ? Or how someone in the US could get it ? It looks reasonablly priced - about $115. Of course with shipping, it'll be expensive, but still cheaper and easier to install than any other option right now.
"The external input terminal (image ･ sound) XXYEN 12,600 (price including tax) image equipment and connection such as stock video camera are produced, can enjoy image with the load monitor. * For manufacturer option DVD navigation attaching car. * While travelling image is not indicated. * As for installation position inside console box."
Anyone know anything about it ? Like the Part Number ? Or how someone in the US could get it ? It looks reasonablly priced - about $115. Of course with shipping, it'll be expensive, but still cheaper and easier to install than any other option right now.
07-13-2004, 02:57 PM
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From what I can gather, it looks like it is supposed to give you video and L/R audio into the nav system. As they suggest this would be used for an accessory input into the nav. It would appear that it is only an option when the car is not moving, however (makes sense for DVD in vehicle laws). Other than that...I'm hard pressed to venture much else.
07-13-2004, 04:06 PM
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'rshan' you may have come across a goldmine for Rx-8 Navi owners (Maz 3 owners too)!
This may be the ultimate access point for allowing high fidelity audio into the system (not including steering wheel controls though)
And possibly solving the video-in to the navi screen...this is critical since the cheapest option right now is around $200 (and is a mess to install...pioneer) and the best albeit most expensive option, the over $500 av electronics box.
If this will not function while the car is moving I'm sure there will be an easy way to hack that...
Plus this option could elliminate...complicated wiring installation, including wiring into the fuse box...and no worry of grounding as this is a factory option.
and all for $116 plus shipping (could be much less if we could find a company in North America, like trussville, canzoomer...whoever to bulk ship it here. Don't forget...$116 is the RETAIL price...maybe we can find a street price for this thing!
I may seem to optimistic but I might as well be since I was already going to lay down for the AV electronics box and saving $400 could go to my sub box install fund ; )
I'll do more research and post my findings...including, looking in the car for an installation point in the console, as the website says.
This may be the ultimate access point for allowing high fidelity audio into the system (not including steering wheel controls though)
And possibly solving the video-in to the navi screen...this is critical since the cheapest option right now is around $200 (and is a mess to install...pioneer) and the best albeit most expensive option, the over $500 av electronics box.
If this will not function while the car is moving I'm sure there will be an easy way to hack that...
Plus this option could elliminate...complicated wiring installation, including wiring into the fuse box...and no worry of grounding as this is a factory option.
and all for $116 plus shipping (could be much less if we could find a company in North America, like trussville, canzoomer...whoever to bulk ship it here. Don't forget...$116 is the RETAIL price...maybe we can find a street price for this thing!
I may seem to optimistic but I might as well be since I was already going to lay down for the AV electronics box and saving $400 could go to my sub box install fund ; )
I'll do more research and post my findings...including, looking in the car for an installation point in the console, as the website says.
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07-13-2004, 04:24 PM
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Well after scouring my car for answers to where this thing goes...my best guess is that it fits inside one of the front cup holders...this is definitly a guess but possible based on the pic of the unit.
Also to answer flyboyindy...I'm pretty sure that this unit uses the extra plug on the back of the navigation unit...but I could be way off...and if it does connect using the radio it probably does the same way the Alpine PIE adaptor does...the same one that causes the those with the navigation unit problems in the form of a 'tv in/aux in' and a blue navi screen.
If the connection is through the radio's plug I'm thinking the cables then run down the center console and through that hole in the front cup holder console (the same spot where many have sent their tape aux-in hack wire through to their mp3 players...
engineers...help on this one!
(every time I get excited about something in this car it costs me LOTS of money, this may save me money!)
Also to answer flyboyindy...I'm pretty sure that this unit uses the extra plug on the back of the navigation unit...but I could be way off...and if it does connect using the radio it probably does the same way the Alpine PIE adaptor does...the same one that causes the those with the navigation unit problems in the form of a 'tv in/aux in' and a blue navi screen.
If the connection is through the radio's plug I'm thinking the cables then run down the center console and through that hole in the front cup holder console (the same spot where many have sent their tape aux-in hack wire through to their mp3 players...
engineers...help on this one!
(every time I get excited about something in this car it costs me LOTS of money, this may save me money!)
07-13-2004, 05:02 PM
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found more stuff!
after translation...I've found:
Back monitor system
YEN 81,375
(Control unit back monitor camera (substance) camera cover)
In other words...a rear view camera that hoooks into the navigation system...nice thing about this is...it is a mazda part.
Wholly crap...converted the yen and it is around $750...so much for that idea...
someone should order this thing...take it apart and write up the schematics...and put it together and return it...
here is an image for y'all
after translation...I've found:
Back monitor system
YEN 81,375
(Control unit back monitor camera (substance) camera cover)
In other words...a rear view camera that hoooks into the navigation system...nice thing about this is...it is a mazda part.
Wholly crap...converted the yen and it is around $750...so much for that idea...
someone should order this thing...take it apart and write up the schematics...and put it together and return it...
here is an image for y'all
07-14-2004, 08:29 AM
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For those of you that can't read Japanese (myself included) try this - babelfish translator. http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr. You can plug in a bunch of text or a website, and it will translate it for you. It's not perfect, but it gets most of the job done.
07-15-2004, 08:31 PM
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We should redo this thread so that non-nav owners can get in on the discussion...the reason...this may tap into the audio system and could provide a factory Aux In for Audio...Not just video!
Help!
Help!
07-16-2004, 08:11 AM
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This is huge for us with navi, lets keep this on the front page. I basically gave up on my carpc project because of the costs associated, but this could be exactly what I need. Does anyone have any friends in Japan.
07-16-2004, 08:35 AM
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Yes, I have friends in Japan, and I have a business trip scheduled for Tokyo for August. However, I'm confused about the questions in this thread, so what exactly do you want me to ask my Japanese friends?
Along the same lines, I was in Japan last month, and they said ALL of their cars have NAV systems; it's an option they all need with the crowded streets of Tokyo. In addition, when they put the cars into reverse, the rear camera view illuminates on the NAV screen and overlays graphical boxes of possible backing locations. It's like guidance for backing into tight parking spots . . . COOL! I'll bet Mazda included some "plug" to include this camera.
Along the same lines, I was in Japan last month, and they said ALL of their cars have NAV systems; it's an option they all need with the crowded streets of Tokyo. In addition, when they put the cars into reverse, the rear camera view illuminates on the NAV screen and overlays graphical boxes of possible backing locations. It's like guidance for backing into tight parking spots . . . COOL! I'll bet Mazda included some "plug" to include this camera.