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Old 12-06-2008, 11:32 PM   #1
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BHR Coil upgrade.

I have just started reading up about the BHR coil upgrade. A few questions...

1. Are the benefits a noticeable difference? (Ive heard people say it feels faster, but that doesnt always mean the car is faster.)
2. Cost?
3. Where do you order it from?


Also, do you think it will work well with an AP (hopefully next "big" upgrade on the car) and a K&N Typhoon intake (installed)?

Any info/comments will be great. Thanks.
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Old 12-06-2008, 11:33 PM   #2
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No, it is not.

More than anything, I just want some information about it before I buy it. Also, I would like to know where to buy it.

So no, its not a joke.

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Old 12-06-2008, 11:37 PM   #4
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I have just started reading up about the BHR coil upgrade. A few questions...

1. Are the benefits a noticeable difference? (Ive heard people say it feels faster, but that doesnt always mean the car is faster.)
2. Cost?
3. Where do you order it from?


Also, do you think it will work well with an AP (hopefully next "big" upgrade on the car) and a K&N Typhoon intake (installed)?

Any info/comments will be great. Thanks.
1. Faster, meh I would say a cleaner burn which leads to more reliable performance
2. $375
3. BHR or PM Charles R. Hill (owner)
4. Long wait list if I am not mistaken, but he is making great strides into getting the product on the market quickly
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Old 12-06-2008, 11:42 PM   #5
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i had the mazsport ignition coil upgrade and actually noticed a decrease in performance. so maybe a bigger spark isnt always the answer. someone posted a theory that the bigger coils the mazsport used took longer to recharge and it couldnt keep up with the engine. another person also said that if you used the AP to change the dwell settings they worked.

still, i have faith in BHR since charles teamed up with mazdamaniac for this upgrade and i've never known MM to be wrong. eventually this upgrade will be on my list of mods.
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Old 12-06-2008, 11:50 PM   #6
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To me this is a reliability mod. The factory coils fail often and mine failed over time so I slowly lost power. Had I dynoed before and after there would have been a significant power difference. This will be my first mod after my suspension and cooling mods.
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Ok, so stay away from Mazsport coil upgrades. I will probably end up purchasing both the BHR coils and the AP, but since the coils are about half the price, that might be the first one to make it on the car. Im not looking for any huge horsepower gains from any of the parts I order. Its my daily driver (I have a 1973 Monte Carlo that is has about 500 horsepower, so its not a huge deal to make this car extremely fast. Im going for reliable horsepower with this car.) so it will be mainly bolt on's. Im thinking the intake that I have installed, AP and coils, clutch and flywheel, and probably a midpipe.

Thoughts on those mods?
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Mazsport is out of business so BHR is the way to go and there is also another coil setup from japan but I cannot remember the name and it is very expensive.

Your mods list is okay for all motor.
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yeah mazport is out of business BHR is your best bet now!!!
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I have them and they rock, best money I've spent on my car so far mod wise. Power increase? probably not so much. Drivability, running smoother, no more funky symptoms from previous pos oem coils? definitely, the yukon coils/bhr configuration works great and you can't beat it for the price, mine was under 500 bucks even with a full set of plugs.
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Old 12-07-2008, 02:27 AM   #11
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I have just started reading up about the BHR coil upgrade. A few questions...

1. Are the benefits a noticeable difference? (Ive heard people say it feels faster, but that doesnt always mean the car is faster.)
2. Cost?
3. Where do you order it from?


Also, do you think it will work well with an AP (hopefully next "big" upgrade on the car) and a K&N Typhoon intake (installed)?

Any info/comments will be great. Thanks.
Ok, I'm here to help! No doubt if you happened to do any research you probably already found most of the answers to your questions.

The BHR Ignition Upgrade is not marketed as a performance upgrade although some owners have stated that they felt the car was pulling stronger than prior to the upgrade.

The cost of the upgrade is $375 and does include plug wires. I would suggest, however, ordering a new set of spark plugs as well since the RX8 chews through a set about every 30,000 miles.

You can PM Charles R. Hill and he will put you on the pre-order list. Once we've got your kit built and it's ready to ship he will PM you for payment...you pay and by magic the kit will arrive on your doorstep a few days later!

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i had the mazsport ignition coil upgrade and actually noticed a decrease in performance. so maybe a bigger spark isnt always the answer. someone posted a theory that the bigger coils the mazsport used took longer to recharge and it couldnt keep up with the engine. another person also said that if you used the AP to change the dwell settings they worked.

still, i have faith in BHR since charles teamed up with mazdamaniac for this upgrade and i've never known MM to be wrong. eventually this upgrade will be on my list of mods.
Yes you are correct. There are two problems with the kit in question. First, the coils do not share the same dwell characteristics that the OEM RX8 coils do. They required a longer charge time. Many people noticed a difference in the low to mid range RPM's but there was significant ignition breakup in the upper RPM band where the rotary makes its power.

While you can make adjustments with the accessport, the ignition box Mazsport used has been prone to causing CEL's because it disrupts communication to the PCM. There has been some discussion regarding the coils used as well but I've not heard a for sure on that one.

Please check out this thread: BHR's Ignition System Offerings

There's quite a lot of posts there but all your questions about the kit have already been answered there. PM Charles R. when you want to get on the order list. Feel free to contact me with any other questions.
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Old 12-07-2008, 06:54 AM   #12
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Your lucky BHR is so well liked and he has such a great following of people who love to talk about his products or you would have been flamed..... bad. Even a "little" research would have found the answers to your questions. Hell, two threads that have every bit of info on these coils are in this very section, on this very page. Save yourself the flaming down the road and do a bit of looking before posting a thread. Good luck with your car and you should really post some pics of your 500hp beast in the general automotive section
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Old 12-07-2008, 09:47 AM   #13
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Why did all of you pander to this r tard? You should have sent him to the on going thread about the BHR coil upgrade. You people are to nice.
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Why did all of you pander to this r tard? You should have sent him to the on going thread about the BHR coil upgrade. You people are to nice.
No such thing as to nice these days, and don't tell me you never posted a "duh" thread in a forum before, we've all done it.
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Oh yes, I have but the "duh" threads seem to be on the rise.
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or maybe because he doesn't have all day to search thru threads were there are pointless comments made every time.
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I have just started reading up about the BHR coil upgrade. A few questions...

1. Are the benefits a noticeable difference? (Ive heard people say it feels faster, but that doesnt always mean the car is faster.)
2. Cost?
3. Where do you order it from?


Also, do you think it will work well with an AP (hopefully next "big" upgrade on the car) and a K&N Typhoon intake (installed)?

Any info/comments will be great. Thanks.
It works very well with the Cobb Accessport. I've had them installed for about 8000 miles now. No problems at all.
As far as an intake ,, I would consider the AEM Cold Air Intake. The K&N is a short ram and does not get the cold air that the AEM does.
Your intake temps will be much higher with the K&N.

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What about ngk plugs? 6700 and 6701. I heard they don't work. and no I don't want to search for hours through a million rabbit holes to find the answer.
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As in RE7C-L and RE9B-T? They work perfectly and either Iridium or Platinum plugs are required with the BHR Ignition System.

...thanks for reminding me to grab some plugs from you for my Dec dyno.
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Whats the wait time for a set?
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BHR ignition is the first and formost upgrade every 8 should be its 1st mod IMO
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First off,,, Holy thread resurrection Batman

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