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Old 08-28-2008, 01:54 AM
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Hi everybody, my first post, i usually just read but i feel this time i need to post to help me deal with the pain.

Anyway, my 8 ( 2004 MT, already on its second engine ) was acting funny and rough idling, stalling, etc. So i take it into the dealership already knowing i'm getting a new engine. Yeah the tech here in Las Vegas calls me many hours
later and tells me they need to order a new motor and to come down so i can pick up a rental.

Later that afternoon i go to get this so called rental car. The dealership has an Enterprise rental car built into it. I wait in line for about 10 minutes, get up to the counter and they ask me what kind of car i have so they can place me in something similar i guess. I tell the guy, " it's a Mazda RX-8 " with more pride than a body builder on cocaine. The worker then says, " Oooooo an RX... " and before he can finish he mutters, " the only thing we have is a KIA spectra to put you in. "
I of course was shocked ( expecting a mazda 3 at least ).

So we head outside and do a walk around, i sign some papers and im ready to go back home. I start the car up and heard the pistons and i already knew i would miss my 8 even more. I leave the lot and feel all 4 of the pistons firing at my feet so unsmoothly. i feel like im being piston (pissed on ).

It's been a week already and im having harder withdrawls from it. No matter what i do i will never look cool in a KIA. Anyway i probably won't have my car back for a week and a half, Mazda dealership is really busy. I'm trying the best i can to deal with situation.
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Wow that sucks man. We had a 2004 AT. Lost the first Engine but the second Engine was running strong. She got totaled by a wreckless driver
With the help of a good friend we went out that week and got a 2004 MT. Same car in and out just MT now Love this bad boy. Been pre mixing from the month I got her. Redline first and second every day on my way to work no probs what so ever.
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Old 08-28-2008, 03:59 AM
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Yeah, I don't know what happend with this engine, did everything possible i could to prevent this from happening. I used to have an FC so maintenance isn't an issue for me . I think its probably because the current reman came from Williams Tech. After all, it only lasted 10,000 miles.

It would cheer me up if i found out i am getting a reman from VA. I'm thinking about making a youtube video of me running this KIA spectra into the wall, not really but i like the thought of it.
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Congrats btw in a small way, your getting one of the first mazda remanufactured engines from our plant, it wont be a Cat(williams tech) reman engine. The first 100 MT engines we built are brand new engines straight from japan also. They sent us 100 6spd. AT engines to turn into MT's, all we did to the motor was swap out the rear housing and add the needle bearing/seal to the eccentric shaft on those. You just got a brand new engine for a rebuild, I will probably ship it out today honestly, they are training me on that and if I see a Vegas order I will get you a pick of your motor as long as I am shipping today. Hell I might try to locate you motor when it shows up here if you want, I am finaly doing shipping/recieving for motors/parts here and occasionally helping out production when someone is out sick/vacation. Enjoy and I hope it goes well.
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^Sweet man. Thats some good news. Dont run into any walls now lol
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dang, brand new engines from japan... yum.
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Sleepy-z, thanks for your enthusiasm and participation in this forum. I, for one, appreciate it.
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Sleepy-z, thanks for your enthusiasm and participation in this forum. I, for one, appreciate it.
+1. Its really great having a specialist on our forums (actively posting as well!).
Old 08-28-2008, 01:45 PM
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Dude KIA or not, the news just made my day. Im speechless. Thank you sleepy, that means a lot. On the downside im looking forward to get my 8 back even more.
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Omg...I want to blow up my engine so I can have sleepy ship and track mine. (I know I'm not the only one...)
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I feel like i won some sort of prize. Anyway when i get my car back i'll keep you guys posted on how the motor is.
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I think yours shipped yesterday, no vegas motors today, or maybe they haven't ordered it yet...I dunno. Not to sure who it goes through to get to us, sorry. What sucks for us is the only thing we did was change out the rear housing so unless it leaks out of the rear we didn't build the first 100, just replaced the rear then ran some mazda gasket sealant through the oil while it ran on the dyno. Like I said those are brand new motors we modified into MT.
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Thx a lot Sleepy-Z.
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it's cool though, new motor in place of a rebuild. There shouldn't be a power difference then right ? what year motors were converted. did they tell you ?
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Originally Posted by RXheart
it's cool though, new motor in place of a rebuild. There shouldn't be a power difference then right ? what year motors were converted. did they tell you ?
There is no difference in the motors from year to year until 09, I would assume its a 08 though since it was ready to be installed. There will be no power difference, well technically it all comes down to compression so there may or may not be a power difference but it will be meager and not too noticeable. Just drive it easy for a while.

BTW no need to thank me, I get bored on the Z sites and I like my job enough to take it home. Like I said when I first posted, if someone came on the Z site with inside info and shared it I would be happy so why not do the same if I can share the info.
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so will we get 09+ Renesis or will Mazda continue to make the current one for replacements?
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Originally Posted by delhi
so will we get 09+ Renesis or will Mazda continue to make the current one for replacements?
That is the same thing I have been wondering.
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At least twice I have had to get loaners (pre-Mazda days btw). Every time it was a Neon. Once was for a Dodge Ram pickup. 5+ years later I'm trying to figure out how a freaking Neon was a "similar substitute" for a full-sized pickup, other than both having a Dodge badge.

Okay enough bitching. Grats on the new motor, hope it works out for ya!
Old 08-28-2008, 07:59 PM
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Hey Sleepy, i always picture Z's as the direct rival to the Rotary. I'm talking way back in the 70's as well. The way i see it is like 2 different gangs. Anyway you are like a liason between Z's and Rotary's.
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Originally Posted by DOMINION
^Sweet man. Thats some good news. Dont run into any walls now lol
Yeah, trust me, that's no fun....
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I feel your pain with the Kia Spectra as a rental. A guy hit me in a parking lot last week and finally today I got to turn in my 8 into the local repair shop and pick up my rental (also from Enterprise coincidentally). They tried to give me a PT Cruiser . I managed to work my way up to a Mazda3 but it's an AT with no power options . So, yeah, I feel your pain and can sympathize. If it ain't a rotor it ain't a motor...
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Originally Posted by Gr8White
I feel your pain with the Kia Spectra as a rental. A guy hit me in a parking lot last week and finally today I got to turn in my 8 into the local repair shop and pick up my rental (also from Enterprise coincidentally). They tried to give me a PT Cruiser . I managed to work my way up to a Mazda3 but it's an AT with no power options . So, yeah, I feel your pain and can sympathize. If it ain't a rotor it ain't a motor...
Yeah speaking of PT cruiser i went back today to see if they have anything to upgrade me with and thats all they had, so i took it . I have no idea why.
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Dominion says>>>>>got wrecked by a WRECK LESS driver.

Talk about an oxymoron.


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