Campbell

Hi all,

I'd like to start by saying sorry if i have posted in the wrong section =/
i have recently put my rx8 on autotrader for sale and have had a few interests. One of the interests is as follows :

" Thanks for the swift response and am OK with the price you gave me for the auto, am buying it for the New Annual Ceremony but due to my work and location, I will not be able to come to inspect it because, am a
very busy type. I have gone through your advertisement and I am satisfied with it. I can only pay via the fastest and secure way to
pay online (PayPal) transfer payment I have a private courier
agent that will come for the pick up after the payment have been made
therefore, no shipping is included and concerning my details,
transferring the name of ownership and signing of all
paperwork will be done by the courier services company agent so
you don't have to worry about that. Give me your PayPal email, so that
i can proceed with the payment.

best regards "

i then followed up the email with my paypal email address that he requested and almost instantly recieved another email :

I want you to know that i have already agreed with the price of the
car, and i want you to know that i have already contact the shipping
agent company that will come for the pick up of the car,and they will
come as soon as i made the payment, but the company told me that it
will cost me 400gbp for the shipping and the delivery of the car,
and they said the only payment method they want is western union
transfer, so i will add 500gbp to the total cost of the car to make
it 3,750gbp so as soon as you get the money, you will help me to
send 400gbp to that shipping company via western union, i will have
love to do this my self, but there is no where on the ship i can see
western union office or post office,

i hope you can now understand me. "

this is all starting to sound like one big scam to me, has anyone ever experienced anything like this or has any information or advice it would be much appreciated. Thanks for reading.

bse50

It sounded like a scam from the first mail actually.

xexok

It is an obvious scam, you shouldn't even be asking if it is because it is so blatant.

Any time you ever sell anything and someone mentions a courier or having YOU send money to them then there is no question.

godesshunter

Defiantly a scam. It been tried so many times. I copied and pasted the first sentence in the first e-mail and this is the first result in google under this thread. Email Scams - August 2012 - dia.govt.nz

nycgps

iTrader: (1)

This is no different than one of those

well, im the secret son from the republic of nadia, my father aka the king has just passed away, he left me with 100 million but im afriad if i show up to get it, their paladians will go after me.

you seem like a trust worthly person and i want to share this wealth with u, but to do that we have to pay my insider 11000 so he will get the funds for us ... you can help by sending 50% of this amount which means 5500 to account 1234567 bank of rip off their routing number is 13131313

Many thanks!

wcs

iTrader: (2)

I kind a feel for this person

I was almost taken in a scam as well.

I was looking at buying an RX7 from someone not to far from where I live (an hour)
Things started getting weird when I saw another address from Winnipeg and they requested a MoneyGram

I should try and put all the posts together in a single thread ... anyways it starts here >>> https://www.rx8club.com/lounge-4/b%4...3/#post4409945

you'll need to skip over the banter as it is in the B@W thread

Bladecutter

Here's a tip to anyone selling anything:

If you receive an email from anyone, anywhere on the planet, and they want to "pay" you without inspecting the product, or "send" someone else to come get it, but they will pay remotely, through Paypay, western union, or anything else, it's a scam.

Tell the "person" you are chatting with that you will only accept cash payment in person. If they don't want to carry cash, you will be more than willing to drive them to the nearest bank branch where they can conduct a cash withdrawal, or funds transfer over to your account.

99% of these type of "people" will not be willing to accept this.
They are scammers.

It's so ridiculously easy to spot, I don't understand why anyone falls for these.

Also, here's another tip.

When you reply to the original email, is it going back to the email address that sent you the email, or is it going to a completely different email address? If it's going to a different email address, it's a scammer. I see this anytime I sell anything on Craigslist. Don't even reply if you see the email address changing.

Just watch what you are doing, and you won't ever respond to scammers.

BC.

RIWWP

iTrader: (2)

9 years of working ant-theft/anti-fraud taught me one underlying truth:
No transaction type is safe, no transaction service is safe, no method of payment is safe.

If you are buying, don't take a single seller at face value, dig for the human behind it. If you are selling, don't take a single buyer at face value, dig for the human behind it. Scammers will always want to hide who they are, and usually won't be able to discuss any real details about the item in question. Get past any question of if it's a generated communication and make them respond to you as a human. You can easily poke holes in scammer's communications, find stuff that works against them. Anything generated will have a public record from prior questions. Google the email text for easy wins. Examine the email tracing info for contradictions.

monchie

100% scam!!!

simonmd

VERY well know scam, I'm surprised you'd sign up to a site like this just to ask!

You send the 400 quid to 'pay the transport company' and then the original payment gets cancelled. That's how it works.

You should NEVER part with money, give bank details, etc, etc. when doing this kind of transaction. Tell him to turn up with the CASH or get lost, simple.

RotaryResurrection

iTrader: (3)

Except for cash...as long as you inspect the bills for authenticity with a marker and a light source, it's hard to lose with a cash sale....unless you get robbed or are dumb enough to lose the money, I guess. But the chances of either of those seem miniscule compared to the likelihood of a bad check or some other scam.

Digger1911

As others have said, it is a scam. Change the password on your PayPal acct.

And if you want to be pro-active, report it. (link below)
-- FBI — New E-Scams & Warnings

RotaryResurrection

iTrader: (3)

Why should he change the password on his paypal account? Unless it was exceptionally weak or unless he thinks he has given it to the guy by some other means, how is his account at risk?

Digger1911

Changing the pass word is strictly a precaution, never know how sophisticated the scammer is.
I would not dismiss the fact they asked for the acct. and may have acquired enough information
to gain access to account in question...
--
Common-Sense Advice for Sellers
Selling a car you find online is a lot like selling a car through a classified ad in the newspaper. In either case, use your best judgment.

Confirm contact information
Be particularly wary of buyers willing to purchase your car sight-unseen, especially buyers located overseas. Always verify the buyer's street address and phone number.
Secure payment first
Do not transfer the title until you have payment in hand at the agreed upon price.
Verify that a certified check is genuine
Before you deposit a certified check, verify authenticity with the issuing bank-not just your bank. Make sure the account contains sufficient funds and the issuing bank guarantees payment on the check. It may take a week or more for the check to clear. It hasn't cleared just because your bank has accepted it and credited your account.
Beware of overpayment or other complicated payment schemes
Don't agree to any plan where the buyer asks to send a check for more than the sale price and requests that the seller refund the difference. And be suspicious of any buyer who proposes making payment through a friend or agent of the buyer.

shr3da

scam in capital letters