Gen 1 vs Gen 2
12-09-2011, 03:54 PM
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do a search bro.... ash8 covered this, its even a sticky
https://www.rx8club.com/series-ii-technical-trouble-shooting-160/series-ii-mazda-oe-parts-number-listings-complete-188306/
https://www.rx8club.com/series-ii-technical-trouble-shooting-160/series-ii-mazda-oe-parts-number-listings-complete-188306/
12-09-2011, 05:24 PM
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There are no "major" differences. Check out what the press had to say:
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take-road-test
"Meanwhile, the RX-8 gets a little stir to keep it green. Most obvious is the new front bumper that flares the grille and brake-duct openings for a more dangerous, grinning-cobra menace. Four glassy robot eyes now fill the taillight teardrops, the exhaust tips are bigger, and fresh wheel designs adorn the various trim levels. Underneath, Mazda adds chassis stiffeners to further tighten an already athletic platform, and tweaked rear-suspension geometry settles the back end and helps sharpen steering response. The prop shaft also has been strengthened to reduce driveline vibration and noise."
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...-8-r3-page-3-1
"Nimble, however, takes you only so far, and the RX-8 enters its seventh year largely unchanged. Tweaks? Sure. Notably the R3 model ($5495 more than a basic RX-8), which includes a killer 300-watt Bose audio system, Bluetooth hands-free phone connectivity, Recaro seats, traction and stability control, a rear wing, rocker-panel extensions, fog lights, xenon headlights, a stiffened front suspension crossmember, higher spring rates, firmer damping via Bilstein shocks, and 19-inch aluminum alloy wheels wearing Bridgestone Potenza RE050A 225/40-19 tires."
"The R3 enhancements, however, have provisos. Ride quality, already firm in other RX-8 versions, is firmer still, and there’s porpoising and expansion-joint whacking on patchy stretches of freeway. Plus, a lot of noise comes up through the suspension. Some of us like the turbinesque sounds of the rotary as it spools up and down, but the car can’t be called quiet. Another gripe: The bolstering of the Recaros is welcome on the track but becomes just short of oppressive, for some, on long freeway runs, putting relentless pressure on the hip bones."
http://www.motivemag.com/pub/feature..._RX-8_R3.shtml
"Having debuted in 2003, the RX-8 isn't ancient, but it's middle-aged in car years. Thankfully, it still looks like it's from the future with space-age curves and mini-doors that flip out backwards for rear passengers. A facelift also came for the 2009 model year, so this is a well-disguised old broad. The old grilles — a large center opening and two smaller flanks to the sides — have been photocopied at 120 percent and new headlights have a more intimidating glare. Around the corner, the car's tall, thin fender vents have been smashed into a small triangle that houses a relocated side turn indicator. The R3 model, a post-redesign addition, wears the new smile best. HID headlights and a front splitter distinguish its front end from lesser RX-8s, while side skirts and a deck wing carry the additions aft. Unique 19-inch wheels are some of the most attractive Mazda has ever made and draw their spoke designs from the car's rotary engine."
http://cars.about.com/od/mazda/fr/09_rx8r3.htm
"Hard to believe, but Mazda's RX-8 sports car made its debut in 2003 as a 2004 model, and Mazda has just now gotten around to giving it a mid-cycle refresh. Improvements include updated styling, an improved interior, modified suspension, new performance model... you know, all the usual stuff. "
http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/up...-mazda-rx-8-r3
"The Mazda RX-8 has been laboring in a tough marketplace. The sporty-car market, as a whole, is off its usual pace, and Mazda's 4-door sports car has been scraping to get its small share of the pie against such cars as the Ford Mustang, Nissan 350Z, Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution and Subaru Impreza WRX STI. Further complicating matters for Hiroshima's finest is the Renesis rotary engine, whose output is significantly less than its counterparts (at 232 bhp for the manual and 212 for the 6-speed automatic) while getting only so-so fuel economy (16/22 mpg). So what's Mazda to do?
Simple: improve the car's appearance and handling. For 2009, Mazda restyled the RX-8's front end, giving it a more elegant look. The vents in the front bumper mimic those of the Porsche 911 Turbo, while the head- and taillights have been slightly modified. Also, there's a new model in the lineup, called the R3, which gets, among other things, 19-in. forged alloy wheels, Bilstein shock absorbers, urethane foam-injected front suspension crossmembers and a sporty rear wing."
Motorweek 2009 Mazda RX-8 R3 Road Test:
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take-road-test
"Meanwhile, the RX-8 gets a little stir to keep it green. Most obvious is the new front bumper that flares the grille and brake-duct openings for a more dangerous, grinning-cobra menace. Four glassy robot eyes now fill the taillight teardrops, the exhaust tips are bigger, and fresh wheel designs adorn the various trim levels. Underneath, Mazda adds chassis stiffeners to further tighten an already athletic platform, and tweaked rear-suspension geometry settles the back end and helps sharpen steering response. The prop shaft also has been strengthened to reduce driveline vibration and noise."
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...-8-r3-page-3-1
"Nimble, however, takes you only so far, and the RX-8 enters its seventh year largely unchanged. Tweaks? Sure. Notably the R3 model ($5495 more than a basic RX-8), which includes a killer 300-watt Bose audio system, Bluetooth hands-free phone connectivity, Recaro seats, traction and stability control, a rear wing, rocker-panel extensions, fog lights, xenon headlights, a stiffened front suspension crossmember, higher spring rates, firmer damping via Bilstein shocks, and 19-inch aluminum alloy wheels wearing Bridgestone Potenza RE050A 225/40-19 tires."
"The R3 enhancements, however, have provisos. Ride quality, already firm in other RX-8 versions, is firmer still, and there’s porpoising and expansion-joint whacking on patchy stretches of freeway. Plus, a lot of noise comes up through the suspension. Some of us like the turbinesque sounds of the rotary as it spools up and down, but the car can’t be called quiet. Another gripe: The bolstering of the Recaros is welcome on the track but becomes just short of oppressive, for some, on long freeway runs, putting relentless pressure on the hip bones."
http://www.motivemag.com/pub/feature..._RX-8_R3.shtml
"Having debuted in 2003, the RX-8 isn't ancient, but it's middle-aged in car years. Thankfully, it still looks like it's from the future with space-age curves and mini-doors that flip out backwards for rear passengers. A facelift also came for the 2009 model year, so this is a well-disguised old broad. The old grilles — a large center opening and two smaller flanks to the sides — have been photocopied at 120 percent and new headlights have a more intimidating glare. Around the corner, the car's tall, thin fender vents have been smashed into a small triangle that houses a relocated side turn indicator. The R3 model, a post-redesign addition, wears the new smile best. HID headlights and a front splitter distinguish its front end from lesser RX-8s, while side skirts and a deck wing carry the additions aft. Unique 19-inch wheels are some of the most attractive Mazda has ever made and draw their spoke designs from the car's rotary engine."
http://cars.about.com/od/mazda/fr/09_rx8r3.htm
"Hard to believe, but Mazda's RX-8 sports car made its debut in 2003 as a 2004 model, and Mazda has just now gotten around to giving it a mid-cycle refresh. Improvements include updated styling, an improved interior, modified suspension, new performance model... you know, all the usual stuff. "
http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/up...-mazda-rx-8-r3
"The Mazda RX-8 has been laboring in a tough marketplace. The sporty-car market, as a whole, is off its usual pace, and Mazda's 4-door sports car has been scraping to get its small share of the pie against such cars as the Ford Mustang, Nissan 350Z, Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution and Subaru Impreza WRX STI. Further complicating matters for Hiroshima's finest is the Renesis rotary engine, whose output is significantly less than its counterparts (at 232 bhp for the manual and 212 for the 6-speed automatic) while getting only so-so fuel economy (16/22 mpg). So what's Mazda to do?
Simple: improve the car's appearance and handling. For 2009, Mazda restyled the RX-8's front end, giving it a more elegant look. The vents in the front bumper mimic those of the Porsche 911 Turbo, while the head- and taillights have been slightly modified. Also, there's a new model in the lineup, called the R3, which gets, among other things, 19-in. forged alloy wheels, Bilstein shock absorbers, urethane foam-injected front suspension crossmembers and a sporty rear wing."
Motorweek 2009 Mazda RX-8 R3 Road Test:
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12-10-2011, 07:04 AM
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I love forums where you cant ask simple questions bc the 120 pound guys behing the keyboard will say dumb stuff back. Its hard to answer simple questions. The point of these forums is to discuss the topic of the forum, in this case the RX. I have been out of the game for a while and after a few google searches I wanted to see what some of you guys had to say.
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There are no "major" differences. Check out what the press had to say:
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take-road-test
"Meanwhile, the RX-8 gets a little stir to keep it green. Most obvious is the new front bumper that flares the grille and brake-duct openings for a more dangerous, grinning-cobra menace. Four glassy robot eyes now fill the taillight teardrops, the exhaust tips are bigger, and fresh wheel designs adorn the various trim levels. Underneath, Mazda adds chassis stiffeners to further tighten an already athletic platform, and tweaked rear-suspension geometry settles the back end and helps sharpen steering response. The prop shaft also has been strengthened to reduce driveline vibration and noise."
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...-8-r3-page-3-1
"Nimble, however, takes you only so far, and the RX-8 enters its seventh year largely unchanged. Tweaks? Sure. Notably the R3 model ($5495 more than a basic RX-8), which includes a killer 300-watt Bose audio system, Bluetooth hands-free phone connectivity, Recaro seats, traction and stability control, a rear wing, rocker-panel extensions, fog lights, xenon headlights, a stiffened front suspension crossmember, higher spring rates, firmer damping via Bilstein shocks, and 19-inch aluminum alloy wheels wearing Bridgestone Potenza RE050A 225/40-19 tires."
"The R3 enhancements, however, have provisos. Ride quality, already firm in other RX-8 versions, is firmer still, and there’s porpoising and expansion-joint whacking on patchy stretches of freeway. Plus, a lot of noise comes up through the suspension. Some of us like the turbinesque sounds of the rotary as it spools up and down, but the car can’t be called quiet. Another gripe: The bolstering of the Recaros is welcome on the track but becomes just short of oppressive, for some, on long freeway runs, putting relentless pressure on the hip bones."
http://www.motivemag.com/pub/feature..._RX-8_R3.shtml
"Having debuted in 2003, the RX-8 isn't ancient, but it's middle-aged in car years. Thankfully, it still looks like it's from the future with space-age curves and mini-doors that flip out backwards for rear passengers. A facelift also came for the 2009 model year, so this is a well-disguised old broad. The old grilles — a large center opening and two smaller flanks to the sides — have been photocopied at 120 percent and new headlights have a more intimidating glare. Around the corner, the car's tall, thin fender vents have been smashed into a small triangle that houses a relocated side turn indicator. The R3 model, a post-redesign addition, wears the new smile best. HID headlights and a front splitter distinguish its front end from lesser RX-8s, while side skirts and a deck wing carry the additions aft. Unique 19-inch wheels are some of the most attractive Mazda has ever made and draw their spoke designs from the car's rotary engine."
http://cars.about.com/od/mazda/fr/09_rx8r3.htm
"Hard to believe, but Mazda's RX-8 sports car made its debut in 2003 as a 2004 model, and Mazda has just now gotten around to giving it a mid-cycle refresh. Improvements include updated styling, an improved interior, modified suspension, new performance model... you know, all the usual stuff. "
http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/up...-mazda-rx-8-r3
"The Mazda RX-8 has been laboring in a tough marketplace. The sporty-car market, as a whole, is off its usual pace, and Mazda's 4-door sports car has been scraping to get its small share of the pie against such cars as the Ford Mustang, Nissan 350Z, Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution and Subaru Impreza WRX STI. Further complicating matters for Hiroshima's finest is the Renesis rotary engine, whose output is significantly less than its counterparts (at 232 bhp for the manual and 212 for the 6-speed automatic) while getting only so-so fuel economy (16/22 mpg). So what's Mazda to do?
Simple: improve the car's appearance and handling. For 2009, Mazda restyled the RX-8's front end, giving it a more elegant look. The vents in the front bumper mimic those of the Porsche 911 Turbo, while the head- and taillights have been slightly modified. Also, there's a new model in the lineup, called the R3, which gets, among other things, 19-in. forged alloy wheels, Bilstein shock absorbers, urethane foam-injected front suspension crossmembers and a sporty rear wing."
Motorweek 2009 Mazda RX-8 R3 Road Test:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdwCb5d7ok8
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take-road-test
"Meanwhile, the RX-8 gets a little stir to keep it green. Most obvious is the new front bumper that flares the grille and brake-duct openings for a more dangerous, grinning-cobra menace. Four glassy robot eyes now fill the taillight teardrops, the exhaust tips are bigger, and fresh wheel designs adorn the various trim levels. Underneath, Mazda adds chassis stiffeners to further tighten an already athletic platform, and tweaked rear-suspension geometry settles the back end and helps sharpen steering response. The prop shaft also has been strengthened to reduce driveline vibration and noise."
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...-8-r3-page-3-1
"Nimble, however, takes you only so far, and the RX-8 enters its seventh year largely unchanged. Tweaks? Sure. Notably the R3 model ($5495 more than a basic RX-8), which includes a killer 300-watt Bose audio system, Bluetooth hands-free phone connectivity, Recaro seats, traction and stability control, a rear wing, rocker-panel extensions, fog lights, xenon headlights, a stiffened front suspension crossmember, higher spring rates, firmer damping via Bilstein shocks, and 19-inch aluminum alloy wheels wearing Bridgestone Potenza RE050A 225/40-19 tires."
"The R3 enhancements, however, have provisos. Ride quality, already firm in other RX-8 versions, is firmer still, and there’s porpoising and expansion-joint whacking on patchy stretches of freeway. Plus, a lot of noise comes up through the suspension. Some of us like the turbinesque sounds of the rotary as it spools up and down, but the car can’t be called quiet. Another gripe: The bolstering of the Recaros is welcome on the track but becomes just short of oppressive, for some, on long freeway runs, putting relentless pressure on the hip bones."
http://www.motivemag.com/pub/feature..._RX-8_R3.shtml
"Having debuted in 2003, the RX-8 isn't ancient, but it's middle-aged in car years. Thankfully, it still looks like it's from the future with space-age curves and mini-doors that flip out backwards for rear passengers. A facelift also came for the 2009 model year, so this is a well-disguised old broad. The old grilles — a large center opening and two smaller flanks to the sides — have been photocopied at 120 percent and new headlights have a more intimidating glare. Around the corner, the car's tall, thin fender vents have been smashed into a small triangle that houses a relocated side turn indicator. The R3 model, a post-redesign addition, wears the new smile best. HID headlights and a front splitter distinguish its front end from lesser RX-8s, while side skirts and a deck wing carry the additions aft. Unique 19-inch wheels are some of the most attractive Mazda has ever made and draw their spoke designs from the car's rotary engine."
http://cars.about.com/od/mazda/fr/09_rx8r3.htm
"Hard to believe, but Mazda's RX-8 sports car made its debut in 2003 as a 2004 model, and Mazda has just now gotten around to giving it a mid-cycle refresh. Improvements include updated styling, an improved interior, modified suspension, new performance model... you know, all the usual stuff. "
http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/up...-mazda-rx-8-r3
"The Mazda RX-8 has been laboring in a tough marketplace. The sporty-car market, as a whole, is off its usual pace, and Mazda's 4-door sports car has been scraping to get its small share of the pie against such cars as the Ford Mustang, Nissan 350Z, Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution and Subaru Impreza WRX STI. Further complicating matters for Hiroshima's finest is the Renesis rotary engine, whose output is significantly less than its counterparts (at 232 bhp for the manual and 212 for the 6-speed automatic) while getting only so-so fuel economy (16/22 mpg). So what's Mazda to do?
Simple: improve the car's appearance and handling. For 2009, Mazda restyled the RX-8's front end, giving it a more elegant look. The vents in the front bumper mimic those of the Porsche 911 Turbo, while the head- and taillights have been slightly modified. Also, there's a new model in the lineup, called the R3, which gets, among other things, 19-in. forged alloy wheels, Bilstein shock absorbers, urethane foam-injected front suspension crossmembers and a sporty rear wing."
Motorweek 2009 Mazda RX-8 R3 Road Test:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdwCb5d7ok8
Thanks Bro. Im looking at an 05 right now, the one in my avatar was an 04 I only did a couple thing in my garage to it like takeda intake, hks exhaust, plugs and wires and suspension. Im wondering how much better the newer rear suspension is but im sure if I ask I will have negative feedback, I dont know what happened, but when I was here last everyone was really helpful.
12-10-2011, 03:32 PM
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instead of starting a useless thread... I am taking over this one lol..... e has bought the who here has bought a gforce chip for their Rx8... man up Im curious on your results or lack of
12-10-2011, 03:51 PM
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I love forums where you cant ask simple questions bc the 120 pound guys behing the keyboard will say dumb stuff back. Its hard to answer simple questions. The point of these forums is to discuss the topic of the forum, in this case the RX. I have been out of the game for a while and after a few google searches I wanted to see what some of you guys had to say.
Anyway, besides the stuff in New Yorker's post, a major change from Series I to Series II is that the Series II engine has a third oil injector, lubing the center of the apex seals. A lot of people think that cures the random engine failures that occur on Series I. Another detail is that an oil change on a Series II is a lot harder.
Personally, I like the styling of the Series I much more than Series II. Amazing how a small facelift can mess things up.
Ken
12-10-2011, 04:01 PM
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This place does have it's moments. I could not find the posts that a couple of guys suggested had branded you as unworthy. Maybe "****" instead of "stuff" in one of your replies set off some of the more genteel folks?
Anyway, besides the stuff in New Yorker's post, a major change from Series I to Series II is that the Series II engine has a third oil injector, lubing the center of the apex seals. A lot of people think that cures the random engine failures that occur on Series I. Another detail is that an oil change on a Series II is a lot harder.
Personally, I like the styling of the Series I much more than Series II. Amazing how a small facelift can mess things up.
Ken
Anyway, besides the stuff in New Yorker's post, a major change from Series I to Series II is that the Series II engine has a third oil injector, lubing the center of the apex seals. A lot of people think that cures the random engine failures that occur on Series I. Another detail is that an oil change on a Series II is a lot harder.
Personally, I like the styling of the Series I much more than Series II. Amazing how a small facelift can mess things up.
Ken
Yeah I had read that about the series II, another thing is some ppl say it doesnt have an issue with flooding, but I honestly never had that issue with my 04. I keep looking at this 09 right now, I used to hate how they looked when they first came out, but im falling in love with it now. Thanks for your input
12-10-2011, 06:24 PM
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From what I can gather, no rx8 should have any issue with flooding with a strong battery and the upgraded starter(if it was pre 06 I think?) There are a few people with s2's here who have actually made an effort to try and flood their cars and were unable to.
12-10-2011, 06:42 PM
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yeah I had a new battery but pretty positive it was the starter from factory on it still. A lot of people seem to make a huge deal about it so I assumed I was just lucky
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