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Old 01-30-2004, 04:42 PM
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Funny story!

So today I am driving along in my recently cleaned RX8 when I hear honking and see flashing lights in my rear view mirror. I quickly glance down at my speed and notice a am well within the speed limit! I start to panic that maybe I left the gas lid open or that something had fallen off of my car. So I pull over into a parking lot and this yellow hummer pulls up next to me. Out pops this women dressed in a tie dye shirt and ripped jeans. She approaches me and says "Hey have some respect and drive a more fuel effecient car! You're killing our planet!" Then she tells me "Get an SUV and clean up your act!"


Moral of the story....


FIX THE FRIGGAN GAS MILEAGE MAZDA THIS IS STARTING TO **** ME OFF ROYALY!

Todays fillup with running Shell 93 octane fuel during the winter netted me 10.8 MPG
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correct me if im wrong, but isnt a hummer a guzzler to?
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Hahhaahahaah.. The point was that he is complaining about the gas milage. Good storey Tick!
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rofl- you poor thing. If it makes you feel better, though, mine makes the same noise with the clutch yours does. 9-K Rever and I turned down the stereo last week and tested it, and sure enough there it was. So at least that part of your car isn't defective!
Old 01-30-2004, 07:06 PM
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I also have that noise..
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To funny.
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Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!

That is hilarious! Imagine our beloved 8 guzzling more gas than a SUV!

ROTFLMFAO!
Old 01-30-2004, 07:55 PM
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Re: Funny story!

Originally posted by TheTick
Out pops this women dressed in a tie dye shirt and ripped jeans. She approaches me and says.......
That wouldn't happen to be our beloved moderator Elara stirring the pot was it?

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Old 01-30-2004, 08:22 PM
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Hey, I can empathize. (although my car has been getting a whopping 16-17 miles per gallon this winter)

I wish Mazda could do something about it as well. Yes, I saw the EPA estimates before I bought the car, but I rarely get the chance to drive it hard, and I was hoping I could get around 20 MPG on the average. You know, the highly touted improvement over the RX7 in both fuel and oil mileage and all that.

Yeah, I'm aware I coulda bought an Insight if I was after good gas mileage. It just seems that Mazda was boasting convincingly about the RX8 having improved mileage.

I'm glad my car doesn't look like, or handle like, or take up as much real estate as a Hummer though!
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Gosh this is unfortunately very close to the truth for me. I have a 2000 F250, ext cab. long bed, 4x4, powerstroke pick up. I get 20-21 mpg hwy and 16-17 in town. 40 gal tank is nice too.

My 8 has just barely got 21 hwy at its best. Now granted the 8 is 100x more fun and eye catching but I do hope it a little better. And when I have the choice of which one to drive, zoom zoom
Old 01-30-2004, 08:40 PM
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Very creative! I was reorganizing my old car magazines and reread the automobile article about the 8 vs the BMW 330 and the Z. 23/25 mpg my ***! Of course, it also said 250 hp.

I should keep all my old articles that say 250 hp. They might be worth something one day.
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As you can tell I am just a bit dissapointed with this problem. The 100 other threads on this issue don't seem to affect mazda in any way.

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I know, we just have to type in all caps. (they hate 'em)

HEY MAZDA, WHAT'S UP WITH THE POOR MILEAGE SOME PEOPLE ARE GETTING?

I'm sure they're thinking "reeeealy heavy right feet".
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My 8 gets better gas mileage thatn my 2000 Ranger Trailhead truck.................but the truck DID have the 4:10 rearend.
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Re: Funny story!

Originally posted by TheTick
FIX THE FRIGGAN GAS MILEAGE MAZDA THIS IS STARTING TO **** ME OFF ROYALY!

Todays fillup with running Shell 93 octane fuel during the winter netted me 10.8 MPG [/B]
If you're gettin 10MPG then there's something wrong with your car. That's abnormally low and to try and continue this misinformation that 10MPG is a normal mileage for rx8 owners to see is just spreading FUD.

Go complain to your dealer, mileage that low must mean there's something wrong with your car.
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I like the part about the tie dye shirt and ripped blue jeans, your imaginary friend sounds like the consumate environmentalist hippie!
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Well, on the positive side, things are a little better. this last fill up I got the best mpg to date..18.5 mixed city/highway miles. 93 octane Cosco gas. 4700. miles. Maybe like a good wine..better w/ age?
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Re: Re: Funny story!

Originally posted by sferrett
If you're gettin 10MPG then there's something wrong with your car. That's abnormally low and to try and continue this misinformation that 10MPG is a normal mileage for rx8 owners to see is just spreading FUD.

Go complain to your dealer, mileage that low must mean there's something wrong with your car.
I believe his point is that he has complained to the dealer and to Mazda NA and their official response has probably been to "NOT DRIVE THE CAR SO HARD".

Mazda Canada never admitted responsibility for the bad mileage on ours either which we owned for 4 months/7,000 km. We drove the car gently to try and see if the mileage would ever improve. Luckily we got all our money back when we turned it in.

It's replacement, an Infiniti G35 coupe gets 23 mpg city and 30 mpg highway. That's better than twice the mileage. When you factor in these operating costs the car is much cheaper that the RX8 despite the higher MSRP. This will be more important in the future because who knows what will happen to gas prices or availability. It's just not smart to put up with horrible mileage in this day and age.

If Mazda ever fixes the gas mileage I would buy another RX8, however not unless they can prove it. As far as I'm concerned they've totally blown their credibility on this issue. Not to mention the flooding issue.

BTW, for advice on how to deal with customers Mazda should look to Nissan/Infiniti. We just received a letter telling us that due to reports of short brake life on some G35's all of our brake service will be free for the life the warranty (4 years/96,000 km). You can guess which company's trucks I am looking at to replace our Suburban! Now that's how to keep customers happy!!!!

MAZDA ARE YOU LISTENING???
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Re: Re: Re: Funny story!

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IIf Mazda ever fixes the gas mileage I would buy another RX8, however not unless they can prove it. As far as I'm concerned they've totally blown their credibility on this issue. Not to mention the flooding issue.
This is exactly the kind of FUD spreading I'm talking about. This mileage issue (of 10MPG or less) is not typical of the vast majority of owners. Most of them measure 17 - 20MPG or something like that. Thus trying to generalize that 10MPG is some kind of common issue is just spreading paranoia. And saying that "mazda needs to fix it" is implying that it's something that happens to everyone and is common place and we're all just putting up with 10MPG. Same thing goes for the flooding issue - do a search if you want to see my comments on that.

If your dealer isn't giving you satisfaction then tell them - take it up through the management chain until you do get satisfaction. Even with the most hard driving the lowest MPG I've seen is about 14 - so if you're getting 10 (youre = nobody in particular) then take it to your dealer and get it on the books. Enough of that and you may have a case to return in via the lemon laws. Same thing if you flood constantly.

But trying to say that this is normal or typical is just not true.

(FUD = Fear Uncertainty & Doubt, in case you were wondering)
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You are missing my point. We got our money back. I didn't have to take them to court. We were lucky because of the buyback.

THEY NEVER ADMITTED THERE WAS A PROBLEM!

And they still haven't.

BTW, 17-20 mpg is nothing to brag about on a car advertised at 23-30 mpg, rotary or not!
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Originally posted by westie
You are missing my point. We got our money back. I didn't have to take them to court. We were lucky because of the buyback.
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BTW, 17-20 mpg is nothing to brag about on a car advertised at 23-30 mpg, rotary or not!
I'm not bragging - but I'm also not distressed about it either. If I got 10MPG then I would be complaining, but to my dealer and Mazda, not to the forum.

I'm not missing your point - the only way Mazda will admit a problem is if owners experiencing this issue pester their dealer to get it resolved. Posting here won't do it, all it will serve to do is make the casual reader think that 10MPG is just normal bad mileage of a rotary engine - which is just not the case. And this kind of FUD is what makes (people) driving H2's pull over someone and tell them they get worse mileage than their H2. It's complete BS (and the story is barely believeable in the first place anyhow - perhaps I'm the victim of another troller)

If you got your money back then great - why are you continuing to spread fear amongst potential buyers? Go post to an Infiniti forum or something and leave the bitching and whining to people who own the car. To those who are experiencing this issue and did not take advantage of the buyback - please, pester you dealer and don't take no for an answer until you get satisfaction.

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I just got back from a different dealer 100 miles north of here. The dealer there was appalled at my situation and actually offered to take my 8 on a trade in straight up for a new one. Only problem was they don't have one like mine in stock. The dealer up there also said that I should call Mazda and talk to a factory rep. He is pretty sure they would offer me a buy back or fix this issue. So I made a little progress atleast in the way I was treated and how I feel about my chances of resolving this issue.

thanks for all the support

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Originally posted by westie

BTW, 17-20 mpg is nothing to brag about on a car advertised at 23-30 mpg, rotary or not!
the car is not advertised with that mpg figure. it was mentioned in that range before production began but was never given as such for production models.
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Dear Simon:

I am not a certified, un-reformed rotaryholic. I did however own an '84 RX7 (in the 80's) and most recently an '04 RX8 GT. I want to buy another RX8 in the future. I wanted a reliable, efficient, well styled, great handling sports car. I thought that's what I had bought. It was only the latter two. I post the comparison to the Infiniti (because we own one) only to illustrate that RX8 owners should not put up with any BS from Mazda. I am a member of this forum, therefore I should post my thoughts and experiences for others to read and learn from. Are you suggesting censorship on the forum?

The problem as I see it is that Mazda is not acknowledging the problems with some of these cars. If people were receiving satisfaction from their dealers they would not be posting complaints on the forum. It doesn't seem to make any difference to Mazda. I am happy to see that the Tick may get some satisfaction but I'm not holding my breath.

Maybe just the titanium grey ones get bad MPG

Westie

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My RX-8 gets the same mileage as my Lexus GX470 SUV (15-20 MPG).


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