RX8 vs. RSX type S
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RX8 vs. RSX type S
Ok so i know someone who has an RSX type S Manual...and he's talkin smack about the RX8 saying its slow and he could beat it....what do you guys think? will the 200hp type S beat the RX8 6 speed?
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Do some research, we had talked about this couple times in this forum.
Stock to stock, RX-8 is faster than RSX-S, but not a lot, also there are so many aftermarket parts to make RSX-S faster than RX-8. My friend used to have a RSX-S, I test drove it. I think the acceleration feel is very similar to RX-8. Now he got a new EVO, can't wait to test drive it! :D
Stock to stock, RX-8 is faster than RSX-S, but not a lot, also there are so many aftermarket parts to make RSX-S faster than RX-8. My friend used to have a RSX-S, I test drove it. I think the acceleration feel is very similar to RX-8. Now he got a new EVO, can't wait to test drive it! :D
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I've raced against an RSX-S in my S2K... the RSX-S isn't a slouch. For that matter, an Acura TL-TypeS (or the new '04 TL's) are also sleepers. It would be a close race (given equal drivers and decent launches).
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I am so sick of hearing "depends on the driver" it's ridiculous. That is absolutely the worst answer ever. He's asking what's the faster car given an equal driver... because we all know if you threw a 3-year old girl behind the wheel of a Viper and a good driver behind a Geo Metro, the Metro would win. So please, next time someone asks for a car comparison give them a straight answer instead of... "depends on the damb driver..." Dammit.
Mmmmk... I'm done.
Mmmmk... I'm done.
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Originally posted by PetersonPeleRx8
I am so sick of hearing "depends on the driver" it's ridiculous. That is absolutely the worst answer ever. He's asking what's the faster car given an equal driver... because we all know if you threw a 3-year old girl behind the wheel of a Viper and a good driver behind a Geo Metro, the Metro would win. So please, next time someone asks for a car comparison give them a straight answer instead of... "depends on the damb driver..." Dammit.
Mmmmk... I'm done.
I am so sick of hearing "depends on the driver" it's ridiculous. That is absolutely the worst answer ever. He's asking what's the faster car given an equal driver... because we all know if you threw a 3-year old girl behind the wheel of a Viper and a good driver behind a Geo Metro, the Metro would win. So please, next time someone asks for a car comparison give them a straight answer instead of... "depends on the damb driver..." Dammit.
Mmmmk... I'm done.
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Typically that quote is used when the performance of two cars are fairly close, and the descrepancy of the outcome will indeed lie on the drivers. The rx8 might win some. the rsx might win some. Its a driver's race, assuming both drivers are fairly competent (and not like a 3 yr old).
A Viper vs Metro would not be a driver's race.
A Viper vs Metro would not be a driver's race.
Originally posted by PetersonPeleRx8
I am so sick of hearing "depends on the driver" it's ridiculous. That is absolutely the worst answer ever. He's asking what's the faster car given an equal driver... because we all know if you threw a 3-year old girl behind the wheel of a Viper and a good driver behind a Geo Metro, the Metro would win. So please, next time someone asks for a car comparison give them a straight answer instead of... "depends on the damb driver..." Dammit.
Mmmmk... I'm done.
I am so sick of hearing "depends on the driver" it's ridiculous. That is absolutely the worst answer ever. He's asking what's the faster car given an equal driver... because we all know if you threw a 3-year old girl behind the wheel of a Viper and a good driver behind a Geo Metro, the Metro would win. So please, next time someone asks for a car comparison give them a straight answer instead of... "depends on the damb driver..." Dammit.
Mmmmk... I'm done.
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Hey guys,
Thanks for not jumping all over me too bad for that post... I was pissed earlier when I wrote it (bad day) and I just reread and it was a little over the top... but oh well... I got my point across. And fxdsconv2000, I apologize didn't mean to offend you.
Now... I know what the phrase means, but these 2 cars aren't really close enough in performance to warrant the use of that phrase. I believe the 8 would win everytime with a driver of the same capacity. I guess that answer just bugs me because it doesn't resolve anything... whoever asks the question is still left wondering!
And Captain_Ron I agree, I don't really see how the RSX can compete... the only discrepancy I can find is that the RSX might be a whole lot lighter?? It sure doesn't look lighter though.
Allright then Have a Good One!!!
Brit
Thanks for not jumping all over me too bad for that post... I was pissed earlier when I wrote it (bad day) and I just reread and it was a little over the top... but oh well... I got my point across. And fxdsconv2000, I apologize didn't mean to offend you.
Now... I know what the phrase means, but these 2 cars aren't really close enough in performance to warrant the use of that phrase. I believe the 8 would win everytime with a driver of the same capacity. I guess that answer just bugs me because it doesn't resolve anything... whoever asks the question is still left wondering!
And Captain_Ron I agree, I don't really see how the RSX can compete... the only discrepancy I can find is that the RSX might be a whole lot lighter?? It sure doesn't look lighter though.
Allright then Have a Good One!!!
Brit
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No worries, we all have bad days.
Like I said before, you do have a good point, but so does the other side. That is the beauty of this forum, you get to see all different points of view.
Like I said before, you do have a good point, but so does the other side. That is the beauty of this forum, you get to see all different points of view.
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Originally posted by PetersonPeleRx8
I am so sick of hearing "depends on the driver" it's ridiculous. That is absolutely the worst answer ever. He's asking what's the faster car given an equal driver... because we all know if you threw a 3-year old girl behind the wheel of a Viper and a good driver behind a Geo Metro, the Metro would win. So please, next time someone asks for a car comparison give them a straight answer instead of... "depends on the damb driver..." Dammit.
Mmmmk... I'm done.
I am so sick of hearing "depends on the driver" it's ridiculous. That is absolutely the worst answer ever. He's asking what's the faster car given an equal driver... because we all know if you threw a 3-year old girl behind the wheel of a Viper and a good driver behind a Geo Metro, the Metro would win. So please, next time someone asks for a car comparison give them a straight answer instead of... "depends on the damb driver..." Dammit.
Mmmmk... I'm done.
So, it really depends who is driving it.
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Originally posted by Captain_Ron
Can someone exlapin this to me? 200hp vs 238hp? FWD vd RWD?
how can it be close?
Can someone exlapin this to me? 200hp vs 238hp? FWD vd RWD?
how can it be close?
2 The RSX is FWD, but the RX8 has lotsa wheel-hop if launched hard.
What else do you need?
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Well as said before the type S is no slouch. That is what I traded in to get my 8. It is very quick off the line but you have to get it over 6000 inorder to get the 200hp and torque out of it. I just thought the car was not very substantial for my tastes. I mean I am coming in form driving VW's and Audi's for the last ten years or so and the car felt hollow. The 8 feels as solid as my Teutonic sedans did. The Acura was a very well built car and I had zero defects untill the day I drove off in my 8.
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STOCK VS. STOCK = RX-8
MODDED RSX VS. STOCK RX-8 = pretty damn close.. RSX-S would win.
I drove a rsx auto... and rx-8 auto... rx-8 feels a a tad bit faster... and alot better as in handling and overall..but rsx is FWD but its one hell of fwd.. it grips like glue.
RSX-S 0-60 6.1-6.7 (depending on driver.. since its manual)
RX-8 6MT 0-60 5.9-6.2 (depending on driver.. since its manual)...
MODDED RSX VS. STOCK RX-8 = pretty damn close.. RSX-S would win.
I drove a rsx auto... and rx-8 auto... rx-8 feels a a tad bit faster... and alot better as in handling and overall..but rsx is FWD but its one hell of fwd.. it grips like glue.
RSX-S 0-60 6.1-6.7 (depending on driver.. since its manual)
RX-8 6MT 0-60 5.9-6.2 (depending on driver.. since its manual)...
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Yep Rx-8 is faster all around , my brother drives a RSX Type S, He let me drive it stock , it was allitle slower , alot more low end torque though. But the RSX Type S only has 1 advantage . . .. the greddy turbo kit for it , is only ~$2,600 shipped . . . With that , I think it'd smoke the rx-8 no problem. But Rx-8 would definitely kill it in the corners almost always.
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Hey Guys!
I just traded my DC5 Type R (RSX-S) in for the 8.
Take it from me, the 8 is quicker, both straight line and point to point.
The R certainly feels quicker due to VTEC kick and FWD feedback through the steering, but the 8 is deceptively quick.
I can't wait to mod my 8 and make it even quicker.
I just traded my DC5 Type R (RSX-S) in for the 8.
Take it from me, the 8 is quicker, both straight line and point to point.
The R certainly feels quicker due to VTEC kick and FWD feedback through the steering, but the 8 is deceptively quick.
I can't wait to mod my 8 and make it even quicker.
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Australia doesn't get the Type R either.
Well actually, the bodykit and the interior (inc. Recaros) is the same as JDM.
But the key differences are 16"alloys instead of 17", normal brakes instead of Brembos and the engine spec is 147kw (same as US RSX-S) instead of 162kw.
So it's not really a Tyoe R, only really a RSX-S dressed up as a R.
I ordered the car when I saw the Jap-spec model and it became too late when I wanted to cancel the order once I found out the true specs we were getting in Australia.
Let's just say that I was not too happy with my purchase when I picked it up.
Great to drive, but not the same as the real Type R (15kw less and lack of Brembos will also leave you dissatisfied).
Waited until Mazda Australia released the RX8 and decided it was the best upgrade, so here I am, with no regrets.
Well actually, the bodykit and the interior (inc. Recaros) is the same as JDM.
But the key differences are 16"alloys instead of 17", normal brakes instead of Brembos and the engine spec is 147kw (same as US RSX-S) instead of 162kw.
So it's not really a Tyoe R, only really a RSX-S dressed up as a R.
I ordered the car when I saw the Jap-spec model and it became too late when I wanted to cancel the order once I found out the true specs we were getting in Australia.
Let's just say that I was not too happy with my purchase when I picked it up.
Great to drive, but not the same as the real Type R (15kw less and lack of Brembos will also leave you dissatisfied).
Waited until Mazda Australia released the RX8 and decided it was the best upgrade, so here I am, with no regrets.
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Can someone exlapin this to me? 200hp vs 238hp? FWD vd RWD?
how can it be close?
Can someone exlapin this to me? 200hp vs 238hp? FWD vd RWD?
how can it be close?
This thing was not meant to race from a stop.
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*zerobanger*...for now it's not..but as soon as someone either makes urethane bushings or pins the drive axles a little better then we'll start shredding some meat...but hell yes does it have wheel hop...
if you haven't done this yet...launch like a "younger" driver, with one hand stuck to your gear shift and FEEL how much play there is in the tunnel....it's almost like the tranny is held on by exhaust hangers....
if you haven't done this yet...launch like a "younger" driver, with one hand stuck to your gear shift and FEEL how much play there is in the tunnel....it's almost like the tranny is held on by exhaust hangers....
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Hey wsup to all the peeps in this rx-8 forum! I'm new here and just wanted to see what's news in the rx-8 world.
This topic is very interesting to me since I actually own a rsx-s (and luv it) and also have much respect for the rx-8 as well. I'm really glad to see that people have quite a bit of respect for the rsx on here. It's a fun, capable car that responds very well to mods.
In terms of straight line speed, stock v. stock, the rx-8 definitely has the upper hand. However, as I understand it, to get a low 14 sec. 1/4 mile pass, you need to rev past 7k rpm's and sumhow manage to minimize wheel hop to get a good run. Stock RSX's are easier to launch, and usually manage very low 15's, with the occassional high 14 sec. 1/4 mile. From a roll, the outcome would be very interesting. RSX's have very nice high end power that could give an rx-8 a pretty good run.
With a couple mods such as intake, tires, and ecu upgrade, rsx's easily become low 14 sec. cars. With this set-up, I personally ran a 14.33, and think better times were possible.
Anyways, great site! I can't wait to see how the mazdaspeed version comes out......
This topic is very interesting to me since I actually own a rsx-s (and luv it) and also have much respect for the rx-8 as well. I'm really glad to see that people have quite a bit of respect for the rsx on here. It's a fun, capable car that responds very well to mods.
In terms of straight line speed, stock v. stock, the rx-8 definitely has the upper hand. However, as I understand it, to get a low 14 sec. 1/4 mile pass, you need to rev past 7k rpm's and sumhow manage to minimize wheel hop to get a good run. Stock RSX's are easier to launch, and usually manage very low 15's, with the occassional high 14 sec. 1/4 mile. From a roll, the outcome would be very interesting. RSX's have very nice high end power that could give an rx-8 a pretty good run.
With a couple mods such as intake, tires, and ecu upgrade, rsx's easily become low 14 sec. cars. With this set-up, I personally ran a 14.33, and think better times were possible.
Anyways, great site! I can't wait to see how the mazdaspeed version comes out......
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hello everybody i have a 6 but i was in my friends rsx-s when he raced an 8. the race was very closethe rsx won by 1/2 a car length. the rsx has I/E if it were stock the 8 will win def and also my friend is a VERY good driver in his rsx-s. i here by confirm the if a stock rx-8 vs stock rsx-s and both had equal drivers, and launches the rx-8 will win 100%.