Numbers Add Up For RX-7 Revival!
12-06-2007, 03:12 AM
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Numbers Add Up For RX-7 Revival!
Found this article in my local News Ltd state daily..
'The Advertiser', CarsGuide.com.au
RX-7 comeback along with the RX-8....possibly.?
'The Advertiser', CarsGuide.com.au
RX-7 comeback along with the RX-8....possibly.?
12-06-2007, 12:36 PM
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Actually I liked the Nagare.. I couldn't stop looking at it when I was at the NY Auto Show. I wouldn't mind if they used it as the basis for the next-gen (or 3rd gen) RX-8. Here's some pics I took.
12-06-2007, 01:27 PM
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Well, I'm sure Mazda will come out with something... Ive heard about this rumor since 2003 and I'm starting to see the light at the end.
With the new 16X debut at Tokyo Auto Show, I'm almost certain something will come out.. But do I think its going to be par with the New Skyline?? I have to say, its going to be tough unless they put turbo on that 16X, which is similar design as the renesis, meaning its not going to happen.. I guess Mazda never listened to us enthusiast and decided not to go with 3 rotor engine.. which will definitely increase torque and HP..
With the new 16X debut at Tokyo Auto Show, I'm almost certain something will come out.. But do I think its going to be par with the New Skyline?? I have to say, its going to be tough unless they put turbo on that 16X, which is similar design as the renesis, meaning its not going to happen.. I guess Mazda never listened to us enthusiast and decided not to go with 3 rotor engine.. which will definitely increase torque and HP..
12-06-2007, 02:58 PM
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With the new 16X debut at Tokyo Auto Show, I'm almost certain something will come out.. But do I think its going to be par with the New Skyline?? I have to say, its going to be tough unless they put turbo on that 16X, which is similar design as the renesis, meaning its not going to happen.. I guess Mazda never listened to us enthusiast and decided not to go with 3 rotor engine.. which will definitely increase torque and HP..
12-06-2007, 03:30 PM
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Why would Mazda want to compete with the GT-R? That's pretty much utter suicide right there in terms of market placement. Mark my words, the GT-R will be a long term sales failure in the US. It might be popular in the beginning, but once the first wave runs out sales will quickly dry up and it won't have the sustainability that Porsche enjoys with the 911 or how Chevy does with the Corvette. The day Ghosn decided he was going to badge it as a Nissan in the US was the day he sentenced it to death.
12-06-2007, 03:34 PM
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Mazda should put the Rx-7 next gen (if so) in a higher price range, but not GTR level or NSX level. Should be more around the Z4 cost, mid $40k would still be able to sell decently at a Mazda dealer yet boost performance wise. Look at the Challenger, the v8 option pushes 40k and I hope for the best for that car. A good pedigree import car would be able to sell at that price.
12-06-2007, 03:41 PM
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Why would Mazda want to compete with the GT-R? That's pretty much utter suicide right there in terms of market placement. Mark my words, the GT-R will be a long term sales failure in the US. It might be popular in the beginning, but once the first wave runs out sales will quickly dry up and it won't have the sustainability that Porsche enjoys with the 911 or how Chevy does with the Corvette. The day Ghosn decided he was going to badge it as a Nissan in the US was the day he sentenced it to death.
He said he can't figure out who will purchase the car. Because the demographic that wants it the most ~30 and under, doesn't have the money. And the demographic that can 45+, doesn't care about it.
12-06-2007, 04:01 PM
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Mazda should put the Rx-7 next gen (if so) in a higher price range, but not GTR level or NSX level. Should be more around the Z4 cost, mid $40k would still be able to sell decently at a Mazda dealer yet boost performance wise. Look at the Challenger, the v8 option pushes 40k and I hope for the best for that car. A good pedigree import car would be able to sell at that price.
12-06-2007, 04:22 PM
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Short term is probably more appropriate. I have a fairly good source at Nissan North America...he predicted to me "2 years" of North American sales "if we're lucky".
He said he can't figure out who will purchase the car. Because the demographic that wants it the most ~30 and under, doesn't have the money. And the demographic that can 45+, doesn't care about it.
He said he can't figure out who will purchase the car. Because the demographic that wants it the most ~30 and under, doesn't have the money. And the demographic that can 45+, doesn't care about it.
12-06-2007, 04:24 PM
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Mazda should put the Rx-7 next gen (if so) in a higher price range, but not GTR level or NSX level. Should be more around the Z4 cost, mid $40k would still be able to sell decently at a Mazda dealer yet boost performance wise. Look at the Challenger, the v8 option pushes 40k and I hope for the best for that car. A good pedigree import car would be able to sell at that price.
12-06-2007, 04:33 PM
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This is the best time for retro cars, toyota will be joining soon with a new supra, or at least should. The rx7 should make a comeback.
Along with muscle cars (mustang, camaro, and challenger)
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12-06-2007, 04:36 PM
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Personally, my feeling is Mazda doesn't have the brand cache to compete in any segment that is above mid-30s. At around that kind of money, things become a lot more brand conscious. The first two generations of RX-7s, when they were affordable fun cars, were the most successful. As much as the FD was great, sales were pretty dismal.
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12-06-2007, 05:09 PM
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40k now is alot less than 40k years ago. Adjusted for inflation, i remember reading that the rx7 was round 50-60k in today's money. 40k today is comparable to a boxster, not that extrodinarily expensive and extremely affordable compared to the other import legends (GTR and NSX when they are released).
This is the best time for retro cars, toyota will be joining soon with a new supra, or at least should. The rx7 should make a comeback.
Along with muscle cars (mustang, camaro, and challenger)
This is the best time for retro cars, toyota will be joining soon with a new supra, or at least should. The rx7 should make a comeback.
Along with muscle cars (mustang, camaro, and challenger)
12-06-2007, 06:48 PM
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12-06-2007, 06:53 PM
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Autoblog commented on the Autocar story here...
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/12/06/r...-rx-7-revival/
A couple of choice comments from the blog--
-Autocar has had its digital image wizards whip up what they think the car might look like. We hope not, as it looks like what might happen if a Corvette stopped short in front of a Testarossa. In other words, it looks like 1988.
-Reshaped combustion chambers are said to improve thermal efficiency, burn more completely, produce more low end torque, and return better fuel economy (woo-hoo!). We're surprised they didn't switch it's fuel to Unicorn sneezes, as the rest of the improvements seem like a fairy tale outcome for the wimpy, thirsty Wankel we know and love.
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/12/06/r...-rx-7-revival/
A couple of choice comments from the blog--
-Autocar has had its digital image wizards whip up what they think the car might look like. We hope not, as it looks like what might happen if a Corvette stopped short in front of a Testarossa. In other words, it looks like 1988.
-Reshaped combustion chambers are said to improve thermal efficiency, burn more completely, produce more low end torque, and return better fuel economy (woo-hoo!). We're surprised they didn't switch it's fuel to Unicorn sneezes, as the rest of the improvements seem like a fairy tale outcome for the wimpy, thirsty Wankel we know and love.
12-06-2007, 07:24 PM
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The story just states fiction as fact, no sources, no heresay. Thay know jack chit, it's just a bunch of ideas we've all seen many times before. They wish ..that's all.
besides ... it'll look more like my avatar ... I have that on good authority. So there!
besides ... it'll look more like my avatar ... I have that on good authority. So there!