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Muscle Cars
it has been proven that muscle cars are becoming the more popular ride. the rice rockets are dying out and being replaced with that good old american muscle.
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Muscle cars will always be more popular here in America.It's American tradition but I'm Asian & I prefer asian cars designs & looks.Rice rockets is a racist term.We call it import cars.
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Originally Posted by RX8_008
it has been proven that muscle cars are becoming the more popular ride. the rice rockets are dying out and being replaced with that good old american muscle.
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Originally Posted by RX8_008
it has been proven that muscle cars are becoming the more popular ride. the rice rockets are dying out and being replaced with that good old american muscle.
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Originally Posted by jsh1120
Maybe in Natchez. Not in Seattle.
so yea i would saw import seen dominates around seattle
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it has been proven that muscle cars are becoming the more popular ride. the rice rockets are dying out and being replaced with that good old american muscle.
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Originally Posted by timmyx1
=) because north of seattle is domimated by koreans downtown seattle has the chinese population south in tocoma has the largest viet and cambodian population fedway was as larg filipino group the japanese are scattered around the area =)
so yea i would saw import seen dominates around seattle
so yea i would saw import seen dominates around seattle
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Well, count me in as one who has willingly been sucked into the dark side of American (via Australia) Muscle! I consider it having the best of both worlds. The RX-8 appeals to me with its exotic styling, razor-sharp handling, perfect balance, pricision shifter, and smooth revvy rotary. Its a car that attracts the more cerebral car enthusiast, I think; we can appreciate its innovation, its advanced technology, and its sheer differentness.
But the GTO... oooohhhhh. It grabs me on a whole 'nuther level, somewhere down around the guts. The sound of that V8, and the lunge of all that torque when you step on the gas... and just knowing how much power is lurking under that hood, just waiting to be opened up... It's such a visceral thing I have trouble explaining it in words. But damn! I just love driving it -- all 3800 pounds of it. :D
But the GTO... oooohhhhh. It grabs me on a whole 'nuther level, somewhere down around the guts. The sound of that V8, and the lunge of all that torque when you step on the gas... and just knowing how much power is lurking under that hood, just waiting to be opened up... It's such a visceral thing I have trouble explaining it in words. But damn! I just love driving it -- all 3800 pounds of it. :D
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The statement that "American Muscle is coming back" is bs, and I don’t think he can show any concrete figures to back it up. I don’t really care either way, but American Car companies have released more “ricer” like cars in the last couple of years than Muscle. The only truly new Muscle Car is the GTO. In that same time frame Dodge released the SRT-4, Chevy the Cobalt, and Saturn the Ion Redline. The Asian companies also released the RX-8 and the 350Z.
With the price of gas rising, and environmental restrictions tightening I really don’t think we’ll see another era of the “Muscle Car.” I could be wrong but the automotive environment just does not seem to dictate this happening.
With the price of gas rising, and environmental restrictions tightening I really don’t think we’ll see another era of the “Muscle Car.” I could be wrong but the automotive environment just does not seem to dictate this happening.
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Originally Posted by Pkskull77
The statement that "American Muscle is coming back" is bs, and I don’t think he can show any concrete figures to back it up. I don’t really care either way, but American Car companies have released more “ricer” like cars in the last couple of years than Muscle. The only truly new Muscle Car is the GTO. In that same time frame Dodge released the SRT-4, Chevy the Cobalt, and Saturn the Ion Redline. The Asian companies also released the RX-8 and the 350Z.
With the price of gas rising, and environmental restrictions tightening I really don’t think we’ll see another era of the “Muscle Car.” I could be wrong but the automotive environment just does not seem to dictate this happening.
With the price of gas rising, and environmental restrictions tightening I really don’t think we’ll see another era of the “Muscle Car.” I could be wrong but the automotive environment just does not seem to dictate this happening.
This is a great time to be an American Muscle enthusiast. :D
I saw an article/chart (in the latest C+D, I think) about the increase in HP over the years in EVERY car line. I don't see the gas prices/environmental concerns hindering HP any. In fact, the recent increase in HP across the board is the biggest news in the industry imo.
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Originally Posted by Speed-ER doc
I don't see the controversy. The 05 Mustang will be a huge seller, there is the GTO, the Dodge Viper and Magnum, the Vette. And the new Cobra will be unveiled in a month. Oh, mama. Don't overlook the new Caddys either.
This is a great time to be an American Muscle enthusiast. :D
I saw an article/chart (in the latest C+D, I think) about the increase in HP over the years in EVERY car line. I don't see the gas prices/environmental concerns hindering HP any. In fact, the recent increase in HP across the board is the biggest news in the industry imo.
This is a great time to be an American Muscle enthusiast. :D
I saw an article/chart (in the latest C+D, I think) about the increase in HP over the years in EVERY car line. I don't see the gas prices/environmental concerns hindering HP any. In fact, the recent increase in HP across the board is the biggest news in the industry imo.
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Originally Posted by Pkskull77
The Mustang and the GTO are the only true examples of "Muscle Cars." The Viper, and Vette are closer to exotics, due to their high price tags. The Magnum is a station wagon, and the Caddys are Luxury Cars. Power is up across the board, but a large majority of it is achieved with better tech, and not with more displacement. In other words, a lot of the cars that are up in power are not the traditional V-8 variety.
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Originally Posted by Speed-ER doc
If it's got a V8 or better, in a sporty package, it's good enough for me. And if it can be easily made to go even faster, that's a bonus. I would say the Viper is an exotic muscle car, the new caddys are luxury muscle cars, and the Magnum is a family muscle car. :p
With that in mind the only successful Muscle Car has been the Mustang, and even that car has lost some market to the Asian import. There is a good chance that the new Stang will bring some folks back but not to the extent American companies would like. This explains their eagerness to delve into the “ricer” market.
In any case the number of “Muscle Cars” has not really risen over the past couple of years. In gaining the GTO, you lost the F-Bodies. During that same time period countless Asian cars have entered, and been successful in the American market.
All that aside, if you want silly amounts of horsepower it is a great time to get it. This is also one of the last times it will be available. As electric cars become more common place the tax, insurance, and fuel savings will slowly kill 8 cylinder cars. The muscle car was killed for these very same reasons.
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U.S. auto makers will continue to seize the "muscle-car" enthusiasm that is out there today. Import car makers are starting to develop "tuner" versions of their different models; to jump on the tuner bandwagon. TV shows like Overhallin'', American Hot Rod, etc. will also continue to be big for the muscle car fans. You have Tuner Transformation and shows like that for the import fans. It is just a matter of taste.
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Originally Posted by MELRX8
Nothing beats a good Shelby Mustang!
I have never been one for American Muscle. I like my cars like I like my women; small and agile, not big and brute .
Then again, I've allways felt that if I can afford it, it's just not worth drooling over.
#22
Originally Posted by BlueEyes
How much did muscle cars cost back in the day versus regular cars?
Because “Muscle Cars” have become so expensive to purchase, and insure most kids have turned to the rice rocket because that’s all they can afford. An old civic hand-me-down is dirt cheap to own. Without reporting modifications to the insurance company it stays that way. Slowly a teen can put more and more parts on it, till they build something that’s quick. This is why ricers are more common than muscle now-a-days.
The death of American Muscle is not a matter of disinterest, but instead economics.
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Originally Posted by RX8_008
it has been proven that muscle cars are becoming the more popular ride. the rice rockets are dying out and being replaced with that good old american muscle.
Problem is that gas costs $2.20 gallon, so unless you're Rockafeller driving around a classic musclecar is not practical. That's why the modern incarnation of the muscle car is a turbo charged 4 banger.
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i do...i also drive a '73 plymouth duster. its got a 360. people are spending more money restoring muscle cars than trying to make a civic fast.