HELP!!! Car cranks but no start
03-05-2009, 12:01 PM
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You pretty much gotta pull the plugs to be sure. If they're wet, you're flooded.
You can try some random deflooding procedures from the DIY forum but I'm pretty skeptical about those. Best way is to pull the plugs, crank until the fuel spews out, dry the plugs and put them back in. If the plugs are fouled, consider new plugs.
You can try some random deflooding procedures from the DIY forum but I'm pretty skeptical about those. Best way is to pull the plugs, crank until the fuel spews out, dry the plugs and put them back in. If the plugs are fouled, consider new plugs.
03-05-2009, 12:09 PM
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what happened when it died? Weird why it would just die on you.
I'm sure caused the flooding. Do the Mazda deflooding, doesn't work pull the fuel relay. Least you have a strong battery now
Did you get the red?
I'm sure caused the flooding. Do the Mazda deflooding, doesn't work pull the fuel relay. Least you have a strong battery now
Did you get the red?
03-05-2009, 12:17 PM
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If you did that to your gas should be fine. Get it deflooded, do the relay, crank it, let it sit for awhile, do it again, let sit, etc...then finally try to start it after a few hours of sitting and cranking, getting the gas out. That's what I would do anyhow, then pull the plugs if still not going.
03-05-2009, 12:19 PM
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Pull the fuse...will stop the gas going to the engine...leave it out and crank. Let the car sit, then do it again and again. Then put it back in and try starting it.
03-05-2009, 12:22 PM
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You pull the fuel relay to ensure that you aren't adding more fuel to an already flooded engine as you crank it.
It really is easier to push start it tho' (will take more than the length of a typical driveway however). It doesn't hurt the clutch as you aren't going very fast when you effectively drop it.
It really is easier to push start it tho' (will take more than the length of a typical driveway however). It doesn't hurt the clutch as you aren't going very fast when you effectively drop it.
03-05-2009, 12:25 PM
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Just a note: pulling the relay stops new fuel from going into the engine but it won't remove the fuel that's already in there. So, you still need to get that fuel out.
Some people have reported success by pulling the relay, crank 7-8 times, put the relay back in, crank 7-8 times, repeat 3-4 times. Personally, I have my doubts as to how reliably this would work as you still need to send the fuel somewhere. Easiest way is out the spark plug holes!
I would recommend you check your plugs anyways because flooding has been known to foul the plugs, so either way, you should take your plugs out. Might as well just do it all in one shot.
Some people have reported success by pulling the relay, crank 7-8 times, put the relay back in, crank 7-8 times, repeat 3-4 times. Personally, I have my doubts as to how reliably this would work as you still need to send the fuel somewhere. Easiest way is out the spark plug holes!
I would recommend you check your plugs anyways because flooding has been known to foul the plugs, so either way, you should take your plugs out. Might as well just do it all in one shot.
03-05-2009, 12:32 PM
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As Wulf mentions below...sometimes you have to do it a few times. Personally tho, I would pull the relay crank...leave it for 5 minutes, relay still out crank again, and repeat. Basically getting all the fuel out, do that 5 or more times, then put it back in and crank as per norm. Just my thought.
Ya wulf, but cranking it while out is suppose to get the full out and pushes it into the exhaust which ends up getting caught in the cat 
It's so much better if you don't have to pull the plugs what a pain and I have to agree with Pros that, that would be the last resort.
Just a note: pulling the relay stops new fuel from going into the engine but it won't remove the fuel that's already in there. So, you still need to get that fuel out.
Some people have reported success by pulling the relay, crank 7-8 times, put the relay back in, crank 7-8 times, repeat 3-4 times. Personally, I have my doubts as to how reliably this would work as you still need to send the fuel somewhere. Easiest way is out the spark plug holes!
I would recommend you check your plugs anyways because flooding has been known to foul the plugs, so either way, you should take your plugs out. Might as well just do it all in one shot.
Some people have reported success by pulling the relay, crank 7-8 times, put the relay back in, crank 7-8 times, repeat 3-4 times. Personally, I have my doubts as to how reliably this would work as you still need to send the fuel somewhere. Easiest way is out the spark plug holes!
I would recommend you check your plugs anyways because flooding has been known to foul the plugs, so either way, you should take your plugs out. Might as well just do it all in one shot.
It's so much better if you don't have to pull the plugs what a pain and I have to agree with Pros that, that would be the last resort.
03-05-2009, 12:35 PM
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I'd rather spend 30 minutes (worst case) to pull the plugs than to dump fuel in my cat. Especially if I am going to have to check the plugs for fouling anyways.
But to each his own.
But to each his own.
03-05-2009, 05:03 PM
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jay, you shouldnt just assume its flooded. you need to know if its flooded before you waste your time and abuse your starter trying to deflood. honestly, pull one spark plug out and you'll know if its flooded. what if the fuel pump took a **** over the winter? or the IGN1 or ING2 fuse popped (i fixed a no start rx8 with this problem about a month ago. the heatshield on his cat fell down and sliced open some wires on the rear o2. those wires touched together and popped the IGN1 or ING2 fuse and it wouldnt start because the injectors werent working)? or maybe the imobilizer system is Fd. trying to deflood when you dont know is just guessing and a waste of time IMO. good luck man and if you need any help, it looks like ill be off tomorrow afternoon.