HELP!!! Car cranks but no start
So I swapped the battery, and the clutch, car started and then just died, now it cranks but wont start.
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Did you check if it's flooded?
If it just started then died that would be a likely bet |
Never happened before, how do I check. I dont wanna pull the plugs yet. Hoping its not flooded.
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You pretty much gotta pull the plugs to be sure. If they're wet, you're flooded.
You can try some random deflooding procedures from the DIY forum but I'm pretty skeptical about those. Best way is to pull the plugs, crank until the fuel spews out, dry the plugs and put them back in. If the plugs are fouled, consider new plugs. |
try and get some buddies to bump start it....
I'm out for that... still can't breathe properly. |
Well I pushed the clutch in and the accelerator and the exhaust just POPPED! LOUD! but still no start
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DOes jump starting hurt the clutch?
And the problem with that is, if it doesnt start, I gotta push it back up the driveway. |
what happened when it died? Weird why it would just die on you.
I'm sure caused the flooding. Do the Mazda deflooding, doesn't work pull the fuel relay. Least you have a strong battery now :) Did you get the red? |
ya I have the red, cranks like a mofo, but i dont know if maybe bad gas killed it, i topped up with fresh gas on top of the gas that had stablizer in it
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Originally Posted by prospectjtaz
(Post 2898634)
DOes jump starting hurt the clutch?
And the problem with that is, if it doesnt start, I gotta push it back up the driveway. As Thumper said, pull the fuel relay to make sure no more fuel gets injected in there when you are deflooding. |
Originally Posted by prospectjtaz
(Post 2898638)
ya I have the red, cranks like a mofo, but i dont know if maybe bad gas killed it, i topped up with fresh gas on top of the gas that had stablizer in it
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what do i do with the fuel relay?
do i pull it out put in back in and crank or pull it out and then crank and try to get it started |
Pull the fuse...will stop the gas going to the engine...leave it out and crank. Let the car sit, then do it again and again. Then put it back in and try starting it.
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You pull the fuel relay to ensure that you aren't adding more fuel to an already flooded engine as you crank it.
It really is easier to push start it tho' (will take more than the length of a typical driveway however). It doesn't hurt the clutch as you aren't going very fast when you effectively drop it. |
First attempt no go, will try agaim in a bit, this is BS
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Just a note: pulling the relay stops new fuel from going into the engine but it won't remove the fuel that's already in there. So, you still need to get that fuel out.
Some people have reported success by pulling the relay, crank 7-8 times, put the relay back in, crank 7-8 times, repeat 3-4 times. Personally, I have my doubts as to how reliably this would work as you still need to send the fuel somewhere. Easiest way is out the spark plug holes! I would recommend you check your plugs anyways because flooding has been known to foul the plugs, so either way, you should take your plugs out. Might as well just do it all in one shot. |
Originally Posted by prospectjtaz
(Post 2898676)
First attempt no go, will try agaim in a bit, this is BS
Originally Posted by TheWulf
(Post 2898680)
Just a note: pulling the relay stops new fuel from going into the engine but it won't remove the fuel that's already in there. So, you still need to get that fuel out.
Some people have reported success by pulling the relay, crank 7-8 times, put the relay back in, crank 7-8 times, repeat 3-4 times. Personally, I have my doubts as to how reliably this would work as you still need to send the fuel somewhere. Easiest way is out the spark plug holes! I would recommend you check your plugs anyways because flooding has been known to foul the plugs, so either way, you should take your plugs out. Might as well just do it all in one shot. |
I'd rather spend 30 minutes (worst case) to pull the plugs than to dump fuel in my cat. Especially if I am going to have to check the plugs for fouling anyways.
But to each his own. |
Good point!! However, just remember he doesn't have one :) lol
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If I need new plugs. BS, well cranked again no go, gotta head out to work now, gonna try tonight, if not pull the plus tomorrow morning.
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Ya my cat is already fuked, so no worries there.
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Originally Posted by Thumper3322
(Post 2898707)
Good point!! However, just remember he doesn't have one :) lol
I would still want to check my plugs though. I'm pretty anal about keeping the car running at it's peak. |
shitty! if it's cranking it's gotta be flooded :(
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Originally Posted by prospectjtaz
(Post 2898728)
Ya my cat is already fuked, so no worries there.
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jay, you shouldnt just assume its flooded. you need to know if its flooded before you waste your time and abuse your starter trying to deflood. honestly, pull one spark plug out and you'll know if its flooded. what if the fuel pump took a shit over the winter? or the IGN1 or ING2 fuse popped (i fixed a no start rx8 with this problem about a month ago. the heatshield on his cat fell down and sliced open some wires on the rear o2. those wires touched together and popped the IGN1 or ING2 fuse and it wouldnt start because the injectors werent working)? or maybe the imobilizer system is Fd. trying to deflood when you dont know is just guessing and a waste of time IMO. good luck man and if you need any help, it looks like ill be off tomorrow afternoon.
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