mark833

Hey guys,

I think I popped an apex seal or lost compression on one rotor as my car barely starts, sounds like **** at idle, and has very little power. I'm going to throw new plugs and coils in tonight, but I called Mazda Canada and my engine is still barely under warranty till June 17, 2013.

Is there anywhere (dealer or not) you guys would recommend in the GTA for a compression test if the plugs/coils don't fix the problem? Also, has anyone or does anyone know of anyone on this forum getting an engine replaced at a GTA dealer? If it comes to that, I want it done right!

Thanks guys! Sorry for the long-winded post.

rev_fast

Wow, nobody replied?

Also looking to find out a good place for a compression test. The local (Ajax) dealer quoted 2 hrs. labour, so well over $200.

Boeuf

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Ajax Mazda is trying to hose you. My car is scheduled for a compression test at Whitby Mazda on Tuesday morning and they told me it is 1 hour labour for the test.

I've spoken to others that have had the test and engine replacement done at Scarborough Mazda and they also only charged them 1 hours labour for the comp test.

RotorWheeee

I had mine done at Avanti. I only had 200 km of warranty left. I had to pay for the compression test but if it failed the cost would be refunded. Note getting the compression test done anywhere but a dealer is a waste of money beyond your own knowledge, Mazda will only accept their own testing.

tickedoff

I had my engine replaced under warranty in september. (mine had 145,xxx kms on it) Mazda has to do the compression test to verify the compression, if it fails they will need the service history. eg. oil changes just to make sure that the oil and filter has been changed every 8000km. I had to pay for the compression test and the oil and filter on the new engine (rebuilt by mazda canada) cost me some where around $300 including tax. I had mine done at Whitby Mazda.

Boeuf

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I had my compression test done this morning at Whitby Mazda, they charged one hours labour, $120.91 after HST.

mafiaboy01

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How did the test go?

Boeuf

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It passed.
Front rotor 7.1, 7.8, 7.4
Rear rotor 8.3, 8.0, 8.3

mafiaboy01

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Not bad. As soon as mine warms up I have like 20whp. I'm gonna take it in this week.

Boeuf

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Not bad but the front rotor is barely a pass. The car feels good though so I'm not worried.

rev_fast

Great info. I'll call Scarborough Mazda tomorrow and post their price here as well.

Boeuf

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When I initially called Whitby Mazda they tried to tell me it was 1.5 hrs labour but I told them that it is impossible for it to take that long and I had heard of others only paying 1hr labour at other dealers. After that the service advisor said she double checked and it is only 1hr labour.

rev_fast

I just called Scarborogh Mazda (spoke with Mark) and right off the bat they quoted $109+tax. I know where I'll be going once the time comes.

Boeuf

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Well Mark was obviously wrong. I just spoke with Scarboro Mazda and they told me it is 2.5 hrs labour but they will only charge 2 hrs.
When I sited that you spoke to Mark the service adviser told me you must have been miss quoted.

wcs

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Holy crap 2.5 hours!!!????

I gotta get me one of these official Mazda compression testers.

Scottish and I could have it done in 30 minutes, and that includes having a beer.

Boeuf

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I told the service advisor that I know it only takes 30 minutes or less. He kept trying to tell me that it's an extensive test and takes up to 2.5hrs. I assured him that I know it takes only 30 minutes and I even told him that I had one done in a parking lot that took less than 30 minutes.
They were unwilling to budge on the fee. My only option is to speak with the service manager and see if he'll do anything.

wcs

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Here's the procedure from the workshop manual.
Print it out and show him.

RX8_WorkshopManual_CompressionInspection.pdf

It also looks like I did our parking lot compression tests not exactly the same.
They remove a plug from both sides and do the test.
I did it one at a time. Mmmmmm I wonder how this changes things?

Boeuf

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Thanks Scott.

mafiaboy01

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Ugh this is such a hassle to get our cars compression tested, 2 hours you got to be kidding me, did you tell them Whitby only charged an hour labor?

Maybe 2 hours is Compression test, then Zoom Cleaning and then another compression test?

Boeuf

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I told him. He kept saying the tech was telling him it takes up to 2.5hrs as its a very comprehensive test procedure which is why it takes so long.

I already cancelled my second test at Whitby Mazda and I'll be speaking with the general manager on Monday to see about getting the first test refunded.

mafiaboy01

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So are you gonna take it to Scarb then? I don't know what to do, at this rate the testing alone is gonna cost $700

Boeuf

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Yeah I'm going to go to Scarborough. At least they should know how to do it.

mafiaboy01

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I called Sarboro Mazda and they booked me in Monday morning, I explained the situation and she booked me for the whole warranty process.

Boeuf

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So what do they do differently when they treat it as the warranty process?

mafiaboy01

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No idea, I told her to make time for the whole process so the compression tests and the Zoom cleaning. I explained to her I got a compression test done yesterday at Whitby Mazda and it failed but I rather have the work done at Scarborough.

She asked why I didn't want to do it at Whitby and I told he I didn't fell comfortable with their Rotary knowledge and that everyone recommended Scarborough. She kinda chuckled then talked to a tech and said they'll do the whole warranty process and get things rolling.

I'm gonna bring my Whitby compression test with me and see if they'll take it and just start with the Zoom cleaning, but if not then they can do everything from scratch, there is no saving this engine.