I'm pretty incompetent when it comes to searching, but I don't think this was posted before. Autoblog just posted that the Evo X is set to in fact have a double-clutch gearbox. Until now there wasn't anything more than generic rumors that it was going to have a dual-clutch setup (DSG-like) as opposed to a more traditional single clutch setup (SMG-like). And just as a note before anyone starts complaining it will almost certainly have a traditional manual transmission as well.

If the exterior stays relatively true to the concept and the interior doesn't suck complete ass I have found my next car. Hooray!

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/23/evo-x-to-get-double-clutch-gearbox/

I can't wait till that car hits the streets. Might have to think twice about keeping the 8 at that point.

honest question, would you take that over a traditional 6-speed?? I'm not to sure, i'd have to test drive it first and think about it cuz part of me says i'd rather have the traditional version.

honest question, would you take that over a traditional 6-speed?? I'm not to sure, i'd have to test drive it first and think about it cuz part of me says i'd rather have the traditional version.
If you're asking me I'd have to say DSG mainly because I can't drive stick. I mean I'm all about learning for the sake of learning and all that, but when I get in traffic even with my automatic I want to shoot myself in the face. Knowing that I'd have to shift and feather the clutch down the highway I'm pretty sure I would go insane. I guess I could just deal with my anger and then learn to drive stick, but what fun is that.

Ha, ha. It's not so bad when you get used to it, although I can't say I am overly crazy about the heavy traffic. Learning a stick is pretty easy to pick up with a little bit of practice. I'm sure you'd manage fine. I don't know what kind of traffic you've got in Delaware that you would require shooting, though. LOL

If you're asking me I'd have to say DSG mainly because I can't drive stick. I mean I'm all about learning for the sake of learning and all that, but when I get in traffic even with my automatic I want to shoot myself in the face. Knowing that I'd have to shift and feather the clutch down the highway I'm pretty sure I would go insane. I guess I could just deal with my anger and then learn to drive stick, but what fun is that.
my opinion is biase as well for never driving a dsg vehicle (and traffic does suck, its pretty much a thigh workout), but ferrari's do have it mostly with no complains so there might be something about it that i'd favor.

Ha, ha. It's not so bad when you get used to it, although I can't say I am overly crazy about the heavy traffic. Learning a stick is pretty easy to pick up with a little bit of practice. I'm sure you'd manage fine. I don't know what kind of traffic you've got in Delaware that you would require shooting, though. LOL
Delaware is pretty much totally awesome. I work in a town called Newark which is where the University of Delaware is. There are tons of cute chicks that are totally into me, but there's a good amount of stopping and going even if it's just for a pedestrian or stop sign.

I have a manumatic and I decided that it if I were going to learn stick this could be my "training wheels". I left it in manual mode all day just to see what I thought about having to manage all the shifting myself, even if it is just a lever. Granted I know it's not exactly the same thing, but I still hated it so much. I have severe ADD with a case of the lazies and I just flat out don't want to bother with shifting. I love pwning n00bs so I use it when I need a little boost of pwning powers, but other than that I just leave it in auto mode.

All the roads here are flat and straight with a lot of stops on my way to work. I think the 8 is the best looking car anywhere near the price, but an Evo X w/ DSG may just be a perfect fit for me. But you cats are much cooler than the people on the Evo forums (sorry Ike, it's true).

honest question, would you take that over a traditional 6-speed?? I'm not to sure, i'd have to test drive it first and think about it cuz part of me says i'd rather have the traditional version.
Unless its a beater or luxury car, I don't think I'd buy another car without a stick. I do think this DSG thing is pretty cool though.

Delaware is pretty much totally awesome. I work in a town called Newark which is where the University of Delaware is. There are tons of cute chicks that are totally into me, but there's a good amount of stopping and going even if it's just for a pedestrian or stop sign.

I have a manumatic and I decided that it if I were going to learn stick this could be my "training wheels". I left it in manual mode all day just to see what I thought about having to manage all the shifting myself, even if it is just a lever. Granted I know it's not exactly the same thing, but I still hated it so much. I have severe ADD with a case of the lazies and I just flat out don't want to bother with shifting. I love pwning n00bs so I use it when I need a little boost of pwning powers, but other than that I just leave it in auto mode.

All the roads here are flat and straight with a lot of stops on my way to work. I think the 8 is the best looking car anywhere near the price, but an Evo X w/ DSG may just be a perfect fit for me. But you cats are much cooler than the people on the Evo forums (sorry Ike, it's true).Well, I can tell you this, driving stick will make you a more attentive driver and likely a better one because of it. I found myself zoning out at the wheel when I drove an auto. DSG might be nice because I do drive manual in rush hour everyday, but once you get used to working a manual, it's kinda hard to want anything else. I just feel so much more in tune with the car.

As far as manumatics go, the act of shifting is 80% left foot 20% right hand (unless you're in japan or some other RHD country, then it's left hand). Seriously. Your left foot does more than your right hand ever will and that's where all of the real finesse comes into play.

Well, I can tell you this, driving stick will make you a more attentive driver and likely a better one because of it. I found myself zoning out at the wheel when I drove an auto. DSG might be nice because I do drive manual in rush hour everyday, but once you get used to working a manual, it's kinda hard to want anything else. I just feel so much more in tune with the car.

As far as manumatics go, the act of shifting is 80% left foot 20% right hand (unless you're in japan or some other RHD country, then it's left hand). Seriously. Your left foot does more than your right hand ever will and that's where all of the real finesse comes into play.
Sounds like someone's offering to teach me how to drive stick on their car!!

If it makes a difference I do press my left foot down everytime I use the shifter lever thing. Makes me feel like a big deal I guess.

And I think if I were going to get a stick I can't imagine having my first one being an Evo. My friend has the VIII and the clutch on that thing weighs 97lbs.

I got to drive an M3 with the SMG in it. I have to say, it is the best transmission. I dunno if the evo x will be just as advanced, but the SMG can snap you back into the seat with every shift if you have it in "sport" mode. there's a casual shift mode in it too which will shift slower, but very smooth. Definately spanks the shit out of the 8's manumatic. (i have the AT so I would know)

-Steakboy

Sounds like someone's offering to teach me how to drive stick on their car!!

If it makes a difference I do press my left foot down everytime I use the shifter lever thing. Makes me feel like a big deal I guess.

And I think if I were going to get a stick I can't imagine having my first one being an Evo. My friend has the VIII and the clutch on that thing weighs 97lbs.Actually, my car is a great car to learn to drive stick in. I have a performance clutch, pressure plate and lightweight flywheel. If you can drive my car, there's probably not much you cant drive.
Oh, and my clutch is light and smooth, but it will still wear you out if you're not used to it.

You know what's funny tho, the owner of the detail shop I go to drives nothing but ferraris.. he usualy has a 360 modena at the shop on weekends. Anyway, only 2 of his guys working there can drive my car.. the rest stall it over and over.. the clutch and lack of bottom end just throws them off. Oh well.

I got to drive an M3 with the SMG in it. I have to say, it is the best transmission. I dunno if the evo x will be just as advanced, but the SMG can snap you back into the seat with every shift if you have it in "sport" mode. there's a casual shift mode in it too which will shift slower, but very smooth. Definately spanks the shit out of the 8's manumatic. (i have the AT so I would know)

-SteakboyYou should Google the difference between an SMG and DSG. DSG's have two clutches (sort of) which allow shifts to happen up to 20 times faster than a traditional SMG.

SMG's, however, still beat the crap out of traditional tiptronics (like the one the 8 has).

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/dual-clutch-transmission.htm

This i understand. I was just stating the fact that any automatic tranny with a (or multiple) clutch is great. I didn't necessarily mean that the SMG specifically was the best, just that any SMG-like trannies are the best. Sorry for the confusion.

-Steakboy

This i understand. I was just stating the fact that any automatic tranny with a (or multiple) clutch is great. I didn't necessarily mean that the SMG specifically was the best, just that any SMG-like trannies are the best. Sorry for the confusion.

-Steakboy

It's not SMG like because it's not sequential which makes it far better and very different. The SMG is crap IMO, the DSG is very good, almost so good that it will bore you out of your mind. Besides, only a pansy would buy an Evo with a DSG tranny (see Saturn <not the planet>) :cwm27:

:rofl:

It's not SMG like because it's not sequential which makes it far better and very different. The SMG is crap IMO, the DSG is very good, almost so good that it will bore you out of your mind. Besides, only a pansy would buy an Evo with a DSG tranny (see Saturn <not the planet>) :cwm27:
I might not be the planet Saturn, but I'm still a giant ball of gas.

i don't notice shifting that much...its just part of driving. Traffic isnt a problem, its just what it is. Seriously drive around with stick and you wont even notice it after a while.

btw yesterday a valet at a restaurant remarked that this was the hardest stickshift he had to drive all day, i was kinda flabbergasted, the 8's been the easiest stick to drive for me.

i don't notice shifting that much...its just part of driving. Traffic isnt a problem, its just what it is. Seriously drive around with stick and you wont even notice it after a while.

btw yesterday a valet at a restaurant remarked that this was the hardest stickshift he had to drive all day, i was kinda flabbergasted, the 8's been the easiest stick to drive for me.The 8 is really simple when it comes to the throws, but people make the idiotic assumption that every sportscar they drive will have just gobs of bottom end torque and they can let the clutch out sloppily while giving it little to no gas. Do that in the 8, and it'll just plain stall.

Firstly, i would have to say that driving a real manual transmission car is so much different. I know because i get really annoyed at the tiptronic on my merc/porsche. It takes time to shift DOH!


As far as manumatics go, the act of shifting is 80% left foot 20% right hand (unless you're in japan or some other RHD country, then it's left hand). Seriously. Your left foot does more than your right hand ever will and that's where all of the real finesse comes into play.

I'm in asia btw.. How da hell do u people drive with your left hand controlling the wheel? You think this would make a difference in our driving styles? That said, I suck at left handers..

Firstly, i would have to say that driving a real manual transmission car is so much different. I know because i get really annoyed at the tiptronic on my merc/porsche. It takes time to shift DOH!



I'm in asia btw.. How da hell do u people drive with your left hand controlling the wheel? You think this would make a difference in our driving styles? That said, I suck at left handers..How do you guys drive with your left hand on the stick, especially when the parking break sits in the way??

I would think that learning to shift with your left hand would be easier than learning to use your left hand to control the wheel...

Btw, i'm not critisizing....

what do u mean parking break sits in the way? It does not get in the way.. Actually i find the oddly handled shaped handbreak useful in that position. The 8 does not have bucket seats.. In a corner i sometimes hold the handbreak to stabilize my body

Things that are backwards confuse and anger me.

Things that are backwards confuse and anger me.

Roar! use the metric lol..

Roar! use the metric lol..
I get two furlongs to the hogshead and that's the way I like it!

sat, for some reason i thougth you had a MT :( . And i also like shifitng with left hand Moviing to US i found it harder to control wheel with left hand vs my right hand. I am use it to now, but my brain still thinks im suppose to shift with left hand.

sat, for some reason i thougth you had a MT :( . And i also like shifitng with left hand Moviing to US i found it harder to control wheel with left hand vs my right hand. I am use it to now, but my brain still thinks im suppose to shift with left hand.
Not only do I not have a MT, I don't even own an RX-8. I just wandered in here off the streets for the free food and sarcasm.

Things that are backwards confuse and anger me.


http://www.southalgonquincamp.com/photos/courtney%20backwards.jpg

Not only do I not have a MT, I don't even own an RX-8. I just wandered in here off the streets for the free food and sarcasm.

opps lol. im trying to remember who are the STI and Evo owners on this forum. i can only think of ike being the evo. but others i cant remember. can you by any chance be one of them :P

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk//images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_49/car_photo_24519_7.jpg

Yes the EVO X is a hot looking car, so much better than the current one. Combined with the performance and a DSG option it could be a monster seller.

And the Rx-8 meanwhile has a slightly different new blue color coming I hear...

opps lol. im trying to remember who are the STI and Evo owners on this forum. i can only think of ike being the evo. but others i cant remember. can you by any chance be one of them :P
I think BlueEyes has an Evo.

i likely will be an STi owner in about 6 months. i need more car than the 8.

This should make all the ricers who watched the original Fast and the Furious really wonder if you are "double clutching".

It's not SMG like because it's not sequential which makes it far better and very different. The SMG is crap IMO, the DSG is very good, almost so good that it will bore you out of your mind. Besides, only a pansy would buy an Evo with a DSG tranny (see Saturn <not the planet>) :cwm27:


That pansy who buys a DSG EVO, is also gonna smoke a lot of manual Evo owners right out of the water, due to no real skill involved in going fast. I personally wouldn't mind a DSG STI as a daily, but as a daily driver putting lots of miles, and expecting many years of reliability, I wouldn't trust any EVO as far as I could throw it long term. From a fun/sports car standpoint, I can see how a DSG EVO would not suit well with diehard enthusiasts. I wouldn't get a DSG unless it was more of a commuter car then a fun car.

Coming from heavy traffic, and lots of driving (25k+ miles per year), not only would it be very convenient, but it would also be nice to have a car that you just gas and go, and could take out most manual drivers with no skill necessary. That right there will have manual EVO owner's panties in a bunch. I'd always have to have a manual fun/sports car though. I couldn't imagine owning an auto or dsg, if I was my only car. I'd be all over an STI DSG though as a daily. That would be really nice. :)

straightline is boring anyway

-Steakboy

I think BlueEyes has an Evo.
That good sir, would be quite impossible given that I live in Canada. Where EVO's are outlawed. I am currently rideless until I find the deal I'm looking for.

That good sir, would be quite impossible given that I live in Canada. Where EVO's are outlawed. I am currently rideless until I find the deal I'm looking for.
Wow, you learn something new everyday.

And like every Evolution that has gone before, it will remain off-limits to Canada, at least for now. Officially, the reason the Evo IX isn't coming to Canada is the same as before. Its intercooler, mounted down in the bottom half of the front bumper, is vulnerable to damage in our 8 km/h frontal crash tests, which stipulate that a car should be able to hit something at that speed and not be damaged. The same test in the States is less stringent.What cars are you shopping for? How do you get around? Do you just stand on the side of the road and let the first chick that drives by get all excited and then stop to drive you around town?

Firstly, i would have to say that driving a real manual transmission car is so much different. I know because i get really annoyed at the tiptronic on my merc/porsche. It takes time to shift DOH!

Yeah... gotta agree. My Familia has one and it sucks royally. I have probably used it 3 or 4 times in about 3 years of ownership.



I'm in asia btw.. How da hell do u people drive with your left hand controlling the wheel? You think this would make a difference in our driving styles? That said, I suck at left handers..

Drive left handed? You're supposed to keep both hands on the wheel at all times... only removing one hand briefly to shift and then returning it to the wheel.

Now that's for spirited driving, tracking and racing... just cruising around... one-handed, left or right... it doesn't matter.

On the other hand... how the hell do you shift left-handed?! My first car here was a stick and getting used to shifting with my left-hand was a bitch. Even after I was used to it, it always felt odd and I never could shift as smoothly as I could right-handed.

sat, for some reason i thougth you had a MT :( . And i also like shifitng with left hand Moviing to US i found it harder to control wheel with left hand vs my right hand. I am use it to now, but my brain still thinks im suppose to shift with left hand.

Odd... I found the exact opposite going from the US to Japan.

and let's not get into the left-side of the road Vs right-side of the road thing... especially since the Japanese are all confused anyway... drive on the left, but walk on the right.. or is it left... or maybe the middle... :confused: and don't worry about looking before crossing the street... :rolleyes:

Sounds like someone's offering to teach me how to drive stick on their car!!

If it makes a difference I do press my left foot down everytime I use the shifter lever thing. Makes me feel like a big deal I guess.

And I think if I were going to get a stick I can't imagine having my first one being an Evo. My friend has the VIII and the clutch on that thing weighs 97lbs.

I will teach you Saturn....come up to the meet!!

i likely will be an STi owner in about 6 months. i need more car than the 8.

we will have a spring 07 meet before you get rid of her!! :kiss:

I'd buy the Evo X with a DSG and I'll tell you why. My commute to work involves A LOT of stop and go traffic and working the clutch gets old real fast. However, once I'm free of the stop and go, I love to open up the 8 and fly down the turnpike as fast as traffic (and the state PD) will let me. So if I could have a car that would let me have the convenience of a slushbox in heavy stop and go, and the "choose your own adventure" of a stick, I'd take one in a heartbeat.

Now if my daily drive was clear sailing, then I'd take a manual. Depending on how the whole recall thing goes, if I keep the 8, I will probably buy an automatic for my commute and use the 8 on the weekends and take up autocross.

Savy?

Wow, you learn something new everyday.

What cars are you shopping for? How do you get around? Do you just stand on the side of the road and let the first chick that drives by get all excited and then stop to drive you around town?
haha, I wish it worked like that. I don't really need a car since I live downtown Toronto. If I need to go out of town I borrow one of my buddies cars, or my parents, or rent. I'm looking for a CPO M3

Steniner owns an Evo, he came from an SRT-4. StopNturnFreak owns an Evo and I believe his wife owns an RX-8. There's another Evo owner I'm forgetting... There are a few members that traded their RX-8 in for an Evo but I don't see them around here much anymore.

Steniner owns an Evo, he came from an SRT-4. StopNturnFreak owns an Evo and I believe his wife owns an RX-8. There's another Evo owner I'm forgetting... There are a few members that traded their RX-8 in for an Evo but I don't see them around here much anymore.Ike, since you've had the WRX and now the Evo, how do they compare reliability-wise? I realize the WRX is not the same as the STi, but I'm still curious.

Steniner owns an Evo, he came from an SRT-4. StopNturnFreak owns an Evo and I believe his wife owns an RX-8. There's another Evo owner I'm forgetting... There are a few members that traded their RX-8 in for an Evo but I don't see them around here much anymore.
And sti_eric (who I haven't seen in awhile) has an STi (go figure) and his wife has an RX-8 I believe.

Haha blueeyes you're in the same boat as me :)

Ike, since you've had the WRX and now the Evo, how do they compare reliability-wise? I realize the WRX is not the same as the STi, but I'm still curious.

I've never had to do anything other than an oilchange on either... Though I've only owned the Evo for 10k miles.

Yeah its not even truely broken in yet ;)

Next time I may be looking for a car will be in 2010-2011 assuming nothing happens to the 8 before then. Right now the top of the list is the Evo X with DSG, Redesigned STI, and Camaro. This will give them all 3 or so years to work out the bugs.

There are tons of cute dudes that are totally into me

there. fixed it for you jeremy.


:mdrmed:

there. fixed it for you jeremy.


:mdrmed:
!!!!! its saturn's arch nemesis !!!!!!!

I could never drive a car with a DSG - I buy cars for fun rather than pure numbers. I don't really care if a car's faster around a track, if I don't enjoy driving it, what's the point? To me, shifting is a big part of the enjoyment I get from driving so I'm going to stick with it for as long as is feasable. I might look into something more boring if I manage to have a WAY long commute to work at some point in my life, but otherwise I'm sticking with a traditional manual.

I could never drive a car with a DSG - I buy cars for fun rather than pure numbers. I don't really care if a car's faster around a track, if I don't enjoy driving it, what's the point? To me, shifting is a big part of the enjoyment I get from driving so I'm going to stick with it for as long as is feasable. I might look into something more boring if I manage to have a WAY long commute to work at some point in my life, but otherwise I'm sticking with a traditional manual.

DSG isn't faster around the track. It shifts faster and is smoother but it's still not good enough to beat out a good driver in the same car equipped with a MT.

!!!!! its saturn's arch nemesis !!!!!!!

Looks like it's another troll from the Evo forums. We all know what losers guys with Evo's are (just kidding Ike).

http://www.beyondbooks.com/ush12/images/00012268.jpg

DSG isn't faster around the track. It shifts faster and is smoother but it's still not good enough to beat out a good driver in the same car equipped with a MT.

My guess is that a good driver can still do one big thing with a MT that you can't do with a DSG -- heel/toe. If you brake into a turn with a DSG you can't keep the revs up like you can with a MT. I don't know how often this comes into play, but it's something.

f you brake into a turn with a DSG you can't keep the revs up like you can with a MT. No, actually it rev-matches on downshift and you can keep the revs up *exactly* like a MT. Test drive an A3 or GTI and see. Freaked me out the first time I drove one, clicked from 6 --> 3 and it rev-matched perfectly, ready for me to punch it with no shift-shock (a friend's car, mine is 6MT, we traded for a comparison drive one day).

No, actually it rev-matches on downshift and you can keep the revs up *exactly* like a MT. Test drive an A3 or GTI and see. Freaked me out the first time I drove one, clicked from 6 --> 3 and it rev-matched perfectly, ready for me to punch it with no shift-shock (a friend's car, mine is 6MT, we traded for a comparison drive one day).
I'm not talking about rev-matching during a downshift. I'm talking about heel/toe around a turn where you're applying the brakes. You can't blip the throttle to keep the revs up and since you're losing speed your revs drop. Nothing you can do about it other than shift into neutral and then blip the throttle I suppose.

DSG isn't faster around the track.Generally true, but...

It shifts faster and is smoothervery true, and 'shifts faster' translates to tiny advantages in being 'faster around the track', but in the big picture there are many things about track driving that can affect time, not just the milliseconds of the shift.


but it's still not good enough to beat out a good driver in the same car equipped with a MT.mmmm, have to disagree with you there. Here's a couple of pros testing and debating. Car-to-car, driver-to-driver, DSG has an edge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmMNRQ1GJ3o&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edpccars%2Ecom%2Fcar%2Dmovi es%2F04%2D22%2D06pageVWGTiDSGvs6spdmanual%2Ehtm

Personally, I didn't spend the money on DSG and like my 6MT just fine, but credit where it's due.

I'm not talking about rev-matching during a downshift. I'm talking about heel/toe around a turn where you're applying the brakes. You can't blip the throttle to keep the revs up and since you're losing speed your revs drop. Nothing you can do about it other than shift into neutral and then blip the throttle I suppose.OK, I know what you mean with a MT, but with a DSG why would you need to 'keep the revs up' (since the drivetrain isn't disconnected for any significant period like it would be if you had the clutch in with your foot)? You approach the corner braking, turn in, clickclick it blips the throttle and engages for you, you accelerate out of the turn with the engine RPM near peak torque and drivetrain engaged.

If your comment is based on experience with a BMW SMG, or none at all, then you should really try an A3 or GTI with DSG under the conditions you describe to see how it reacts. Having driven it I'm pretty sure I'm right, but I'd be interested in your actual comparison as well.

OK, I know what you mean with a MT, but with a DSG why would you need to 'keep the revs up' (since the drivetrain isn't disconnected for any significant period like it would be if you had the clutch in with your foot)? You approach the corner braking, turn in, clickclick it blips the throttle and engages for you, you accelerate out of the turn with the engine RPM near peak torque and drivetrain engaged.

If your comment is based on experience with a BMW SMG, or none at all, then you should really try an A3 or GTI with DSG under the conditions you describe to see how it reacts. Having driven it I'm pretty sure I'm right, but I'd be interested in your actual comparison as well.
Yeah, I think I see your point. It will still automatically rev-match for you during your down shift while braking the same as with any down shift.

I would not be qualified to determine any of those differences myself anyways. I just like to pwn n00bs (sad, but true). If a special tranny can help me do that I'm all for it. My goal is to have computers and/or machines one day live my life for me.

mmmm, have to disagree with you there. Here's a couple of pros testing and debating. Car-to-car, driver-to-driver, DSG has an edge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmMNRQ1GJ3o&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edpccars%2Ecom%2Fcar%2Dmovi es%2F04%2D22%2D06pageVWGTiDSGvs6spdmanual%2Ehtm

Personally, I didn't spend the money on DSG and like my 6MT just fine, but credit where it's due.

Funny you show this video, because if you watch the whole thing it shows the DSG losing to the MT on the TRACK. The same exact thing happens with the SMG equipped BMWs. The biggest factor in the drag race in the video is the launch control (which the US cars don't have). So far in the MKV GTI in the US the fastest times have been guys in MTs, at least that was the case last I checked.

Funny you show this video, because if you watch the whole thing it shows the DSG losing to the MT on the TRACK. The same exact thing happens with the SMG equipped BMWs. The biggest factor in the drag race in the video is the launch control (which the US cars don't have). So far in the MKV GTI in the US the fastest times have been guys in MTs, at least that was the case last I checked.
Do you happen to know why none of the DSG equipped cars come with launch control in the US? Hear anything about the Evo X having it on US or non-US versions?

Do you happen to know why none of the DSG equipped cars come with launch control in the US? Hear anything about the Evo X having it on US or non-US versions?

I remember reading why, but can't remember. I do know that the '07 is supposed to get it. As for the Evo, no word on it having that feature, I seriously doubt it will considering it's AWD. It is however very simple to get launch control with a reflash on the current Evos.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1016724441968790950&q=Evo+launch+control

I remember reading why, but can't remember. I do know that the '07 is supposed to get it. As for the Evo, no word on it having that feature, I seriously doubt it will considering it's AWD. It is however very simple to get launch control with a reflash on the current Evos.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1016724441968790950&q=Evo+launch+control
I guess that would make sense from the abuse side, but it's still hard to believe. I would think one of the main drawpoints of the DSG on an Evo to a lot of guys is the LC feature allowing for perfect auto-pwn launches.

I guess there's always power-braked launches.

For anyone who isn't familiar with the DSG transmission, here's an informative video brought to you by some 8 year olds.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8150864618291395472

^OMG!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I can't stop laughing at that commercial.^

That's pretty hilarious.

I remember reading why, but can't remember. I do know that the '07 is supposed to get it. As for the Evo, no word on it having that feature, I seriously doubt it will considering it's AWD. It is however very simple to get launch control with a reflash on the current Evos.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1016724441968790950&q=Evo+launch+control
How does the launch control on the EVO, or any AWD car for that matter, preload the drivetrain? I would think this is would be important in an AWD vehicle.