I have a question, can a RX8 with a Greddy Turbo Kit well tuned beat a ferrari 360 on a drag race Track, or i need more than that. Can somebody ask this question please?

Thanks,

no...........get a 20b conversion

Rofl, are you serious?

nope, best time i read on this forum was 13.1 by adrian, and the ptp car could probably break into 12's with the perfect launch. a modena's doing high 12's easy.

NOT A GREDDY KIT!

I'm sure with a lot of research, and a substantial ammount of money (I"m thinking 20k) you might be able to make a custom setup that could run with one, but beating one would be difficult.

Even if you could hit the power mark necessary (~450-550 whp) you would have to swap a crapload of stuff to be able to support the power and deliver to the road.

At least - Modified Suspension Setup, Beefier Cluch, Flywheel, Maybe in driveshaft?, beefier Rear End, some wide sticky tires. <-That's just drivetrain parts, and you tranny will be not worth a whole lot after running that setup for an extended ammount of itme and drag racing. (I"m guessing)
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My assumption above is based on the numbers I've seen other Rx-8's run w/ the Renesis. And at current prices for turbo parts, rx8 parts, and the appropriate ECU.
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note - he didnt ask for an answer to the question. he wanted someone else to ask the question.

ill go first

can a 8 with the greddy turbo kit beat a ferrari 360 in a drag race?

can a 8 with the greddy turbo kit beat a ferrari 360 in a drag race?

can a ferrari with a greddy turbo kit beat a .......... damnit!

^no

Not with a Greddy, but a Greedy kit might.

Not much else to do huh?

http://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2522089#post2522089

man is it getting hot in here ? :flamed:

lol, nice find rkostolni

Don't stand that much of a chance. Perhaps a Carrerra, if it would make you feel better.

did he ask this in the s2k forums too?

Not much else to do huh?

http://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2522089#post2522089


What are YOU doing on a 350z forum?

Oh you must have lot's of spare time too.
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I am asking this question in other forums because i am searching for a car that can beat a ferrari without losing my bank account with huge mods, you understand what i am trying to say?

I am asking this question in other forums because i am searching for a car that can beat a ferrari without losing my bank account with huge mods, you understand what i am trying to say?

How about a Vette? I would go c5 Z06 w/ light mods,and you could probably get by on 35-40g total w/ car, and smoke a modena in a drag.

besides those are my favorite vette. :)
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try these guys, seems to be reasonable.
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I think the Rx-8 forum should be a little more mature than others, so I would be happy to answer any questions you might have about the Rx-8.

Granted you at least search and come with some glimpse of effort.
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just get a beat up orange supra... and get some bolt ons :)

or a cheap ls1 camaro or firebird.... ls1tech.com

What are YOU doing on a 350z forum?

Oh you must have lot's of spare time too.

You gotta know your enemy!!! :evil_laug :uzi:

just get a beat up orange supra... and get some bolt ons :)

Wow, I can't believe I didn't think of this first. I practically embody the movie Fast & Furious. Good work.

and we end up being

thats because they are as fasts as Civics(talking about us~) on the350z forum.

I believe a WELL TUNED FI 8 can beat a stock Ferrari.

a well tuned FI 8 with drag tires with nos should guarantee high 12's even if you're not a great driver lol

Even if you could hit the power mark necessary (~450-550 whp) you would have to swap a crapload of stuff to be able to support the power and deliver to the road.

There is no way you need 450 whp-550 whp to beat a Ferrari 360. An F430 probably, but the 360's were high 12 sec. cars. A 400 whp RX8 (with sticky tires) will give you a more than competitive run vs. a 360.

I think he ought to worry about being old enough to have a drivers license before worrying about spending money he doesn't have on a car he doesn't have against a car he will never encounter at a drag strip.

Keep in mind most Ferrari owners don't know how to drive their cars fast, they just putt putt around town...

I also work on those cars for a living...

BaronVonBigmeat I have a car (2003 Eclipse GS) and money and the age (22's), but a i need a very fast car to enter in the Drag. I am tired of other people Ferraris and lamborghinis and tired of seeing his rear lights a plate number. I want to demonstrate these people that other cars can with less money be enought fast to beat their expensives cars. :nono:

why would you take it upon yourself to make that statement?

With enough money, any car can beat any the expensive supercars. With the avg car price in the 30k range, you can buy yourself a $1000 rustang and put 30k of mods in it, or do the same with a civic... it still isn't going to make anyone envious.

why would you take it upon yourself to make that statement?

With enough money, any car can beat any the expensive supercars. With the avg car price in the 30k range, you can buy yourself a $1000 rustang and put 30k of mods in it, or do the same with a civic... it still isn't going to make anyone envious.

but if you put a big enough wing on it will.... :)

Well if he's actually serious, then he needs to forget about playing games with a greddy setup (no offense, anyone) and go straight for a 3-rotor.

If 360's are indeed high 12 sec. cars than I retract my statement of needing 450-550whp. 400 might be close, but remember the ptp rx8 that only ran like a 13.4. That's what I was basing my guess off.

A lot of cars can break high 12's w/o tons of money. STI, EVO, GTO Stang GT, 350z, SRT-4 (maybe).

And Yes. You must know your enemy! True.
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"thats because they are as fasts as Civics" My favorite quote from the thread on the Z forum.

A Ferrari is just another car and can be taken down like anything else. In time, a FI 2 rotor Renesis will be able to take down most anything on the road including a 360. You may just have to be patient.

an evo or sti could take it with a few mods. A GTO could as well, but who would really want to drive a car as ugly as that around?

Why are you starting with the 8 as the base for a dragster? That's about the last car i'd pick if I'm worried about the 1/4.

I second the Vette notion (or any muscle car that starts with a large displacement V8).

an evo or sti could take it with a few mods. A GTO could as well, but who would really want to drive a car as ugly as that around?

I could say the same thing about the EVO or STI.

Step 1: Buy a Factory Five GTM (http://factoryfive.com/table/ffrkits/GTM/GTMkit.html), the engine is in back and they weigh 2200 lbs. and they are very pretty

Step 2: Install a 4-rotor

Step 3: Paint your car green and orange :D:

Step 4: Stomp Ferraris

Step 1: Buy a Factory Five GTM, the engine is in back and they weigh 2200 lbs. and they are very pretty

Step 2: Install a 4-rotor

Step 3: Paint your car green and orange

Step 4: Stomp Ferraris

+1

well any car can be a 10sec. car if you overnight the parts from Ja-PAN.

or buy an EVO and take it to these guys
http://www.amsperformance.com/

We're as fast as Civics ! 350z 4 life !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No Ferraris ! Civics !

Dang, is this the correct forum ? Where's the "bench racing is not allowed" quote ? :rofl:

A 355, a nicely done RX7 AND a M5 with NOS all bowed down to a turbo Fiat Uno at a local race not too long ago....proof that anything is possible with enough money, or with little self-respect :rollingla

an evo or sti could take it with a few mods. A GTO could as well, but who would really want to drive a car as ugly as that around?

I think there's a pretty huge difference between "ugly" and "bland".

I think there's a pretty huge difference between "ugly" and "bland".
agreed, but the GTO is a very ugly car, not just bland. The side aspect may look bland, but the front/back end are ungly as all hell.

Why is very dificult to put an RX-8 Turbo (Greddy) in a 1/4 mile time of Mid 11's or 12's Flat. Can somebody explain me this please, i am decided to get the Rx-8.

Thanks,

Not enough power. It's as simple as that.... at least w/the Renesis anyway. On top of that, the 8 doesn't have much of an aftermarket yet. You are looking at a complete engine swap if you want to get into the 11s.

If 360's are indeed high 12 sec. cars (#) than I retract my statement of needing 450-550whp. 400 might be close, but remember the ptp rx8 that only ran like a 13.4. That's what I was basing my guess off.

A lot of cars can break high 12's w/o tons of money. STI, EVO, GTO Stang GT, 350z (#), SRT-4 (maybe).

And Yes. You must know your enemy! True.And rememebr the ptp car is only running 330whp in that test. At 350-400whp it will be faster. Another thing you have to take into account is traction.

Traction, traction, traction, and more traction...................

agreed, but the GTO is a very ugly car, not just bland. The side aspect may look bland, but the front/back end are ungly as all hell.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I think the front end, especially, is the car's best feature. The stern is less so, but I'd never, ever call any part of the GTO "ugly"... BLOATED, maybe, but not ugly. I don't think that any styling aspect of the GTO is as bad as, for instance, parts of the RX8. Let's face it, parts of the '8 are a little jarring to the eye, especially the car's butt and the c-pillar treatment.

Why is very dificult to put an RX-8 Turbo (Greddy) in a 1/4 mile time of Mid 11's or 12's Flat. Can somebody explain me this please, i am decided to get the Rx-8.

Thanks,
the greddy turbo is way to small and the stock rx8 computer is smarter than most humans. you could do it with lots of cash on a renesis, but weak aftermarket means there isn't a cheap way to the 12 sec barrier.

Thanks for answring my questions. There is a lot information here.

Don't bother with a slow POS RX8...get this instead:










http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z253/GuerillaForce/miata-1.jpg

Get something with AWD if you want to crush more expensive cars in drag racing

Holy shit he responded to his thread four years later? :lol:

Holy shit he responded to his thread four years later? :lol:

HOLY SHIT! LMAO! I just noticed that!

OMG.

That is hands down the best thread revival I have ever seen. Usually it is just one of us goofing off, or a newb that doesn't notice.


But the OP!!!!!

That's priceless :)

OMG.

That is hands down the best thread revival I have ever seen. Usually it is just one of us goofing off, or a newb that doesn't notice.


But the OP!!!!!

That's priceless :)

:lol: @ visiting the forums ever four years. I feel like such a loser, I can't go a weekend without posting.

+1 at best thread revival EVER

i wonder if the op set this up from the beginning :lol:

if so...kudos to you good sir...kudos...

:rollingla

While we're on the revival trip here.....


why would you take it upon yourself to make that statement?

With enough money, any car can beat any the expensive supercars. With the avg car price in the 30k range, you can buy yourself a $1000 rustang and put 30k of mods in it, or do the same with a civic... it still isn't going to make anyone envious.

but if you put a big enough wing on it will.... :)


AHAHAHAHAHAH :rock:

hahahaha, I saw the original date and sat through and read the whole thing (for pure entertainment haha).

Busted out laughing when I saw the OP revived it.

BTW, do we have a renesis 8 in the 12's yet? lol

....can a 8 with the greddy turbo kit beat a ferrari 360 in a drag race?

Troll! Ban him! :D:

I just hate people dump a pointless question leaving us to discuss about it to death and never check back.
its like asking how can someone send an rx8 to the moon.

...its like asking how can someone send an rx8 to the moon.


What?!?!? we can't just floor it on a steep incline?

What?!?!? we can't just floor it on a steep incline?

Nope, our cars have too much torque, we'll overshoot it and miss....

hahahaha, I saw the original date and sat through and read the whole thing (for pure entertainment haha).

Busted out laughing when I saw the OP revived it.

BTW, do we have a renesis 8 in the 12's yet? lol

you know what its funny. Everyone on here that has the power to run 12's wont even time their car. We always get the lame excuse "THE RX8 ISNT A DRAG CAR"... But when they were stock the went to the drag strip every weekend ?! lol. wtf

adrians car that ran a 13.1 with the greddy kit had the stock greddy snail, no cold air intake, and was not even using cobb AP. I think he had about 270 whp. 290whp with a good driver will get you in the 12's

you know what its funny. Everyone on here that has the power to run 12's wont even time their car. We always get the lame excuse "THE RX8 ISNT A DRAG CAR"... But when they were stock the went to the drag strip every weekend ?! lol. wtf

adrians car that ran a 13.1 with the greddy kit had the stock greddy snail, no cold air intake, and was not even using cobb AP. I think he had about 270 whp. 290whp with a good driver will get you in the 12's

Most of the time, people dont build RX8s for drag anyways. Closest thing most people will build it for is a street car. However, after dumping stupid money into their cars, a lot of people dont even find it worth it to bring it to the drag strip and risk breaking something in order to acheive bragging rights of a 12 second car... If that makes sense.

I do know what you mean though, If I had over 300whp, I would want to know what my 1/4 times are.

Most of the time, people dont build RX8s for drag anyways. Closest thing most people will build it for is a street car. However, after dumping stupid money into their cars, a lot of people dont even find it worth it to bring it to the drag strip and risk breaking something in order to acheive bragging rights of a 12 second car... If that makes sense.

I do know what you mean though, If I had over 300whp, I would want to know what my 1/4 times are.


you can break it on the street just as easy as breaking it on the track.. they make that lame excuse alot too. lol. only difference is.. its more embarrassing at the track :smoker: I feel like timing the car is just to measure performance. It doesnt tell everything about the car, but it tells alot concerning speed and acceleration. Someone with cobb ap could a least use the quartermile timer on the unit and time their car. STOPPED BEING SCARED. YOURE GUNNA BLOW YOUR APEX SEALS ONEDAY ANYWAY!! lol

Haha, next season if I have a solid enough tune; which I should with the AP I'll run a quarter mile for you... but you may be dissapointed as elevation here is quite high (1600ft above sea level). Other than the drag strip here there is only autocross.