New EPA testing

The EPA has finally admitted that the testing methods are wrong. Numerous reports on the news today about the EPA revising their test to reflect real-world mileage.

56mpg Prius 'estimates' worked out to about 36 in real life.

We know about our beloved RX8 test results. I get 13mpg city, NOT the 18mpg on the sticker.

Now everyone will realize that they get crappy mileage, and I won't feel so bad anymore.

:hahano:

You're right...
My C5 gets better city mileage, but the 8 gets the most Fun-Per-Gallon!
:cussing:

my worst fuel economy was 16.7, and my best was 23.4, and i average 18.47 (i have a spread sheet set up to track and analyze it...habit i picked up from my dad). so, my real world experiences have been pretty close to the original epa predictions ;)

This thread is not for mileage bitching - I've done enough of that.

This is just vindication that the EPA are a bunch of liars and it's all a conspiracy by the government to make us think that we are getting good milage, all the while we have to spend more to line the pockets of the fat-cat oil executives, who spend it all on private jets to the cayman islands, where they hide thier profits in suitcases full of money in private banks, and then rent big luxury boats to go fishing for big game fish, and then go to town where they pick up strippers and pounds of blow, and then take helicopters to thier ski chalet in Austria, where they do the blow and eat endangered species for dinner, served by scantily-clad female french chefs, who moonlight as strippers, and then are entertained by Elvis while they laugh at us poor Americans getting 5mpg in our Ford Escorts....

Damn oil companies.

Wow, mega-rant!

You can sum up that last post simply by reading straight down from 'cayman islands' on my screen:

... cayman islands ... pick up strippers ... scantily clad female chefs ...

:p:

and eat endangered species for dinner.

I thought they ate extinct species for dinner. They have the endangered species for breakfast.

I thought they ate extinct species for dinner.
how do you do that? :confused:

I'm just mad that the wife won't use the stripper pole I installed.

I thought they ate extinct species for dinner. They have the endangered species for breakfast.

how do you do that? :confused:

I guess they have a stash of dodo birds in that safe in the Cayman Islands.
Next to where Elvis lives.

:dunno: :dunno:

I've got the worst so far @ 11 in town and 15 on the highway...
My MPG's stay the same if I Grandma it or rev to the beep.
Beat this :)

I wonder how this will affect the CAFE law. Now that everyones estimated mpg is going to go way down, will the government still force auto companies to comply with CAFE?

...the plot thickens

every car I've ever owned I got better milage than the sticker..... the rx8 is the only one that's been right on the money.

my civic got 10 mpg higher than the sticker... i routinely got low 50's with it. sticker was 38/44 mpg.

you have a thermostat problem

This is just vindication that the EPA are a bunch of liars and it's all a conspiracy by the government to make us think that we are getting good milage...

or they were just using an outdated methodology that was formulated 30 years ago, and doesn't/didn't take into effect modern day driving habits/situtations.

Glyphon: Got a blank copy of that spreadhsheet you wanna email me?

I wonder how this will affect the CAFE law. Now that everyones estimated mpg is going to go way down, will the government still force auto companies to comply with CAFE?

...the plot thickens

I'm sure that is the point of the EPA changing the standards. It means that the automakers will have to build even more fuel efficient models to offset their major offenders. Which is ok by me......I am sick of Chrysler putting a HEMI in every freakin' car and truck they make. Hey, does your Neon got a Hemi? Git ur done!!

Glyphon: Got a blank copy of that spreadhsheet you wanna email me?
You might also want to look at http://www.mtcpro.com/. They sell a program that tracks all your vehicles maintenance. You just enter your gas reciept info, it tracks your gas mileage AND tells you when oil changes and such are coming due based on miles or time.

Glyphon: Got a blank copy of that spreadhsheet you wanna email me?

yup, but based off of the link in the above post, i should be charging you :D:

whoa Glyphon, you're one post away from 1,000!!! Make it count.

Ha, pointing that out to you should be worth something right??

lol...nope, because i was already at 1000 when i saw your post :FIREdevil

don't worry, i'm not going to charge you for it :)

every car I've ever owned I got better milage than the sticker..... the rx8 is the only one that's been right on the money.

my civic got 10 mpg higher than the sticker... i routinely got low 50's with it. sticker was 38/44 mpg.


In 20 years of driving I NEVER achived HIGHER milage than the sticker. :Freak_ani

You're doing something wrong with the math, or you only drive downhill.

6.5mpg at the dragon (i was also on tires 2% smaller than stock so really 6.37mpg)

9mpg in the winter on solely city driving (granted i warm the car up)

12mpg summertime city driving

first tank on the highway 17-18mpg

second tank on an extended trip 22-24.5mpg

my 8 is wierd.

or they were just using an outdated methodology that was formulated 30 years ago, and doesn't/didn't take into effect modern day driving habits/situtations.

No, I think its a big fat conspiracy. :cussing:

I think they are using us a guniea pigs.

We buy the oil, we burn the oil in our cars, we cause global warming, we use more electricity for our airconditioners (because we are staying inside more often cause it's too expensive to drive around), and we send the cash bloated oil company CEO's who go on lavish vacations to the Maldive Islands, where they have parties with strippers dressed as Elvis, doing blow, and eating saber-toothed tiger steaks.

It all fits... :rant:

6.5mpg at the dragon (i was also on tires 2% smaller than stock so really 6.37mpg)

9mpg in the winter on solely city driving (granted i warm the car up)

12mpg summertime city driving

first tank on the highway 17-18mpg

second tank on an extended trip 22-24.5mpg

my 8 is wierd.

Damn you might was well throw in a V12 in that 8 with those kind of mileages :eek:

No, I think its a big fat conspiracy. :cussing:

I think they are using us a guniea pigs.

We buy the oil, we burn the oil in our cars, we cause global warming, we use more electricity for our airconditioners (because we are staying inside more often cause it's too expensive to drive around), and we send the cash bloated oil company CEO's who go on lavish vacations to the Maldive Islands, where they have parties with strippers dressed as Elvis, doing blow, and eating saber-toothed tiger steaks.

It all fits... :rant:

No one eats Bald Eagle egg omlettes anymore?

6.5mpg at the dragon (i was also on tires 2% smaller than stock so really 6.37mpg)

9mpg in the winter on solely city driving (granted i warm the car up)

12mpg summertime city driving

first tank on the highway 17-18mpg

second tank on an extended trip 22-24.5mpg

my 8 is wierd.


Thank you. I feel better now.

See how great it is when other people are miserable? :sadwavey:

Thank you. I feel better now.

See how great it is when other people are miserable? :sadwavey:

im not that miserable about it, its a sports car and its getting sports car mileage. I drive it up in the high rpms for kicks so i expect her to drink heartily. Still though, i'd love it if somehow a river of premium got diverted to run through my back yard.

Yeah, but a Lotus is a sports car, a GTI is a sports car. they get great mileage.
I might be kicked off for bitching too much, but a 3000 lb car should return 20mpg in regular driving. I know everything about the Rotary engine and gas consumption...:wallbash:

The RX8 is suited to high rpm racing and not daily driving around.
It's a great engine, but it sucks when 90% of your driving is stop and go.

That said, I still think the CEOs are having fun at our expense. Rotten bastards.

No one eats Bald Eagle egg omlettes anymore?

I prefer fried Baby Bald Eagles for dinner.

Then I cut up the leftovers and serve them for lunch in a nice salad.

every car I've ever owned I got better milage than the sticker..... the rx8 is the only one that's been right on the money.

my civic got 10 mpg higher than the sticker... i routinely got low 50's with it. sticker was 38/44 mpg.

Is anyone going to help me challenge this guy to prove this claim?? :wiggle:

In 20 years of driving I NEVER achived HIGHER milage than the sticker. :Freak_ani

You're doing something wrong with the math, or you only drive downhill.

I got 187,000 miles in ~4 years on that car ( honda civic hx 5 speed )... avg is 48mpg. best tank was 58 mpg... tennessee to almost the end of missouri on one tank ( 13.8 gallons )... later as I got into nevada and got onto the crap gas they use there ( this was a drive to oregon ) I was only getting 360 miles to a tank... that sucked since the gas was almost a dollar more expensive...

Most of my accumulated mileage was in florida for my 120+ mile a day round trip commute. There are no hills, it's flat.

This thread is not for mileage bitching - I've done enough of that.

This is just vindication that the EPA are a bunch of liars and it's all a conspiracy by the government to make us think that we are getting good milage, all the while we have to spend more to line the pockets of the fat-cat oil (#) executives, who spend it all on private jets to the cayman islands, where they hide thier profits in suitcases full of money in private banks, and then rent big luxury boats to go fishing for big game fish, and then go to town where they pick up strippers and pounds of blow, and then take helicopters to thier ski chalet in Austria, where they do the blow and eat endangered species for dinner, served by scantily-clad female french chefs, who moonlight as strippers, and then are entertained by Elvis while they laugh at us poor Americans getting 5mpg in our Ford Escorts....

Damn oil companies.

All right Joe!...
Has O'Reilly called you yet?
You're due an appearance.

Thanks for that fresh breath of expression...

I prefer fried Baby Bald Eagles for dinner.

Then I cut up the leftovers and serve them for lunch in a nice salad.
C'mon guys, that's not fair, I'm at work and can't LOL... :wallbash:

My mom's last five cars have all been a Mazda and she always gets at or just above the sticker.

I usually get above the sticker as well. In summer I get 21-22 mpg in my 1989 Ranger, and it's a 4wd auto V6. I've hit 24 on a long trip in the 8, and average 22 normal driving. And no, I'm not driving like grandma. Tried that and it hurt my economy.