View Full Version : Simota CF Aero Form Intake in here!!


sqflyer
08-10-2005, 04:32 AM
Bros & sistas, the Simota CF Aero Form Intake is finally here. We are meeting up tonite Wed 10 Sep 10pm at Kallang Macs. Those who are interested in the intake, please come down for a preview. Matrix, Drifter, Orr-beh, Simon9116, etc... hope to see you guys there.

coupe07
08-10-2005, 04:32 AM
Bros & sistas, the Simota CF Aero Form Intake is finally here. We are meeting up tonite Wed 10 Sep 10pm at Kallang Macs. Those who are interested in the intake, please come down for a preview. Matrix, Drifter, Orr-beh, Simon9116, etc... hope to see you guys there.
can see me there or not, altho i confirm NOT buying? :)

sqflyer
08-10-2005, 04:37 AM
Bro, this meet up is not juz for those interested in the Simota mah... for you, anything oso can one... :p

coupe07
08-10-2005, 04:49 AM
................... for you, anything oso can one... :p
JUST FOR ME!!!!! :p :D :p :D

sqflyer
08-10-2005, 03:29 PM
Ok, thank you guys for coming to the meet up, especially those guys who came specifically to check out the new Simota intake. For the sake of those that could not join us, I'll post some of my findings in this thread over the next few days/weeks of testing.

As I've mentioned, there is currently an issue with having TOO high an airflow causing mixture to be too lean if you clutch in and close the throttle at high speeds. Auto RX-8s should not have this problem since you would not "neutral" your transmission at high speeds. Anyway, after a couple of hard runs, the ECU seems to be getting used to the new air flow and didn't exhibit that problem while driving on my way home. Will test it again tomorrow and report my observations. Thanks to tems900 for the info and advise on the MAF sensor and the intake wire mesh. I'll give it a shot tomorrow and see if that helps the air flow turbulence that may be the cause of the problem.

The sound of the intake at idle is a very sweet whistle... almost like there's some "fan" that's "force feeding" extra air, but there isn't any of coz. :p Normal throttle inputs up to about 4000rpm doesn't make any more noise compared to the stock intake but thereafter the intake starts to come alive and you'll hear that all familiar throaty suction sound that progressively gets louder all the way to redline. Comparatively, it's still much quieter than the 1st gen K&N Typhoon intake but the open pod intake sound is definitely there to give you the satisfaction.

As for performance results, I'll do some g-tech runs to compare the Simota intake against the stock intake soon. Will definitely post my findings soon. Here are some pics for you to take a look. As for pricing, I've been told it will be under S$400, probably cheaper. They are working out a promotional price for us and will come down to install on one of our Sunday meet-ups for those who are interested.

Vanquish
08-11-2005, 03:47 AM
Wow... looks like a sweet intake... all said... can someone advise wat's the damage gonna be like?? :P

8citing
08-11-2005, 10:10 AM
Aiyah! missed the chance to see..... wanna hear how the car will sound. As long as no issues with idle, i sure wanna get it!

Orr-Beh
08-11-2005, 01:59 PM
Sweet... So is mine coming liao? :D :D :D

Hopefully, Can hv a look, feel n listen when back onth 16th. :p

sqflyer
08-11-2005, 03:35 PM
More updates:

Regarding my earlier posting about the airflow being too high at high speeds, this problem should only exist if you have removed your Variable Fresh Air Duct (VFAD) that is tucked into your front bumper. If you have not removed it or basically have never removed your front bumper, then you should not have this problem. Anyway, our ECUs seem to be able to adapt and adjust to the new intake's higher airflow after a few days of driving around.

I did some reading up on the intake wire mesh and I think that a wire mesh in the intake piping before the MAF sensor should help to stabilise the air flow so that the MAF sensor can get an accurate reading. I have customised an intake wire mesh for my intake pipe have just installed it. Will be testing it out over the next few days.

Now for the performance results, I hope you guys weren't expecting HUGE gains since there is no such intake for our 8s that can give you anything remotely close to huge gains. After analysing the g-tech runs between the stock intake and the Simota intake, the Simota intake seems to give an overall increase of about 2-3HP more than the stock intake. The maximum difference is about 5HP above the stock intake but only within a short RPM range. Absolute peak HP increase is very marginal. Torque is increased overall by about 4Nm and a maximum of about 7Nm again within a small RPM band. So there you have it, certainly nothing to shout about, but that's to be expected from any intake systems because our 8s are already well optimised. To get more out of any power mods, tuning is essential.

As for availability and pricing, the distributor said the next shipment should be coming within 2 weeks, but please take this with a pinch of salt. Simota is having difficulty keeping up with the demand because this intake is good value for money. It looks especially nice on our 8s and sounds good too. Once the stock arrives, they intend to come down to one of our Sunday meet-ups to install the intake for those who are interested and will give us a SPECIAL promotional price. I was told stock is limited in the next shipment so if you're interested, please let me know so I can coordinate with the supplier and reserve a piece for you.

Lastly before I sign off, let me just say that I'm only giving my 2cents review here. I'm just trying to report my findings objectively. I'm not recommending this intake by any means so please don't buy it based on my account (I've only had it for 3 days, so I can't promise there won't be problems in future). It's not the best intake in the world and it has it's shortcomings, but so far it's okay. Looks good, sounds good and fairly inexpensive.

Drifter
08-11-2005, 11:23 PM
More updates:

Regarding my earlier posting about the airflow being too high at high speeds, this problem should only exist if you have removed your Variable Fresh Air Duct (VFAD) that is tucked into your front bumper. If you have not removed it or basically have never removed your front bumper, then you should not have this problem. Anyway, our ECUs seem to be able to adapt and adjust to the new intake's higher airflow after a few days of driving around.

I did some reading up on the intake wire mesh and I think that a wire mesh in the intake piping before the MAF sensor should help to stabilise the air flow so that the MAF sensor can get an accurate reading. I have customised an intake wire mesh for my intake pipe have just installed it. Will be testing it out over the next few days.

Now for the performance results, I hope you guys weren't expecting HUGE gains since there is no such intake for our 8s that can give you anything remotely close to huge gains. After analysing the g-tech runs between the stock intake and the Simota intake, the Simota intake seems to give an overall increase of about 2-3HP more than the stock intake. The maximum difference is about 5HP above the stock intake but only within a short RPM range. Absolute peak HP increase is very marginal. Torque is increased overall by about 4Nm and a maximum of about 7Nm again within a small RPM band. So there you have it, certainly nothing to shout about, but that's to be expected from any intake systems because our 8s are already well optimised. To get more out of any power mods, tuning is essential.

As for availability and pricing, the distributor said the next shipment should be coming within 2 weeks, but please take this with a pinch of salt. Simota is having difficulty keeping up with the demand because this intake is good value for money. It looks especially nice on our 8s and sounds good too. Once the stock arrives, they intend to come down to one of our Sunday meet-ups to install the intake for those who are interested and will give us a SPECIAL promotional price. I was told stock is limited in the next shipment so if you're interested, please let me know so I can coordinate with the supplier and reserve a piece for you.

Lastly before I sign off, let me just say that I'm only giving my 2cents review here. I'm just trying to report my findings objectively. I'm not recommending this intake by any means so please don't buy it based on my account (I've only had it for 3 days, so I can't promise there won't be problems in future). It's not the best intake in the world and it has it's shortcomings, but so far it's okay. Looks good, sounds good and fairly inexpensive.

Sqflyer:
Well said and well done for all the effort that you have given. Really appreciate that you give us a detail report and findings. I also think the mesh provides a steady and uniform air flow to the sensors as RB also mentioned that in their website.
Put me in your list to get the Simota air filter.

Thanks ! can't wait to fit it in.

Matrix11
08-12-2005, 01:19 AM
er SQflyer....how to customise the mesh? thks.

sqflyer
08-12-2005, 01:06 PM
I took out the detachable bell & wire mesh assembly from the original air intake box as a comparison and bought a wire mesh of similar thickness/density. Next, I marked out the size of the Simota's intake pipe on the wire mesh and cut it out with a pair of wire cutters. Then I mounted the wire mesh in front of the intake pipe and clamped it down with Simota's intake bell and screwed down with the 4 screws. I know this sounds complicated, but it's really quite easy and took about 2 hours max. The hardest part was the cutting coz the wire mesh I got was quite tough. I should have taken a picture, then you'll see what I mean. I'll try to post one when I get a chance. I haven't had much opportunity to test out the Simota intake with the wire mesh, but so far so good.

sqflyer
08-14-2005, 03:58 AM
Ok, here are the pics of the stock intake box, the detachable intake bell and wire mesh, the modified Simota intake pipe with the extra leg for added support and a close-up of the wire mesh on the Simota intake pipe.

So far the results with the wire mesh is quite good. Air flow is stable and I can clutch in and free gear at well over 100km/h without a hint of the RPM ever dipping below normal idling rpm.

sqflyer
08-14-2005, 04:21 PM
Woo hoo.... my Simota intake is taking a turn in a new direction. Somehow the plain ol' blue Simota filter is metamorphosing into an A'pexi Power Intake :) Once the transformation is complete, I'll do some test runs and post the results and pics. Stay tuned.

coupe07
08-14-2005, 11:40 PM
Woo hoo.... my Simota intake is taking a turn in a new direction. Somehow the plain ol' blue Simota filter is metamorphosing into an A'pexi Power Intake :) Once the transformation is complete, I'll do some test runs and post the results and pics. Stay tuned.
with ur own innovation, this intake is gg to be rather superb.... PLS PATENT IT under ur name!!!!!!!!!

the mesh lah, the changing of cone filter lah.... all the customisation work for a fraction of the price........ U R THE MAN for this intake!!!!! of cos not forgetting our good old apexi filter supplier.......

Genesis
08-15-2005, 09:54 AM
Woo hoo.... my Simota intake is taking a turn in a new direction. Somehow the plain ol' blue Simota filter is metamorphosing into an A'pexi Power Intake :) Once the transformation is complete, I'll do some test runs and post the results and pics. Stay tuned.
Awesome job with the intake flyer...your aerodynamics training is really paying dividends! Others will benefit from that for sure. Btw, you have to change your avatar to reflect your new nose :)

sqflyer
08-15-2005, 11:48 AM
Ok, here it is.... my new intake is complete. I've named it the A'peximota.... Here are the pics. Performance results to follow once I get it installed and do some test runs.

coupe07
08-15-2005, 11:58 AM
Ok, here it is.... my new intake is complete. I've named it the A'peximota.... Here are the pics. Performance results to follow once I get it installed and do some test runs.
dat was a good job!!!! patent it under ur name!!!!!!!!

bro, go open workshop sell intake! :D :D

sqflyer
08-15-2005, 03:08 PM
Wait first, one step at a time mah... now juz finished concept prototype, still got trials and testing, analyse performance results and if it's good then can go into production and launch my "A'peximota Carbon Fiber Aero Form Power Intake". With a such a long powderful name like that, sure sell like hotcakes... wahahaha :D :D

No lah,... only nuts like me will go thru all the trouble just for a silly intake. But if anyone is interested, I'd be more than happy to share the knowledge and experience I've gained in this exercise. I think that's what this forum is all about. Learning more about the car we all love.

Orr-Beh
08-16-2005, 12:01 PM
01 set of "A'peximota Carbon Fiber Aero Form Power Intake" 4 me pls.
Dun wanna noe how it's done, just wan it installed in my 8.

Thank you. :D :D :D

Vanquish
08-16-2005, 01:12 PM
Looks neat... just in case I'm catching the wrong ball here, I gotta get the simota intake and followed by the Apeximoto izit?

sqflyer
08-16-2005, 01:38 PM
Well, basically the Simota intake works fine as long as the VFAD has NOT been removed on your 8. Personally, I prefer the Dual Funnel Power Intake from A'pexi which by the way is the no. 1 brand for air filters. So I replaced the Simota intake's air filter element with the A'pexi Power Intake air filter and thus the "A'peximota" is born. I just installed my modified intake last night and drove around town without a hitch. Will try to do some test runs then I can analyse the performance data and see if it really works well before I can recommend it to anyone. In the meantime, you can just order your Simota Intake with me and I'll get them to reserve a piece for you in the next shipment. The A'pexi Power Intake mod can always come later.

Vanquish
08-16-2005, 02:06 PM
Well, basically the Simota intake works fine as long as the VFAD has NOT been removed on your 8. Personally, I prefer the Dual Funnel Power Intake from A'pexi which by the way is the no. 1 brand for air filters. So I replaced the Simota intake's air filter element with the A'pexi Power Intake air filter and thus the "A'peximota" is born. I just installed my modified intake last night and drove around town without a hitch. Will try to do some test runs then I can analyse the performance data and see if it really works well before I can recommend it to anyone. In the meantime, you can just order your Simota Intake with me and I'll get them to reserve a piece for you in the next shipment. The A'pexi Power Intake mod can always come later.

Yes Sir, roger! :D counting down to the days my simota comes! :P

coupe07
08-16-2005, 08:43 PM
Well, basically the Simota intake works fine as long as the VFAD has NOT been removed on your 8.
bro, i tot the VFAD is not the problem???? the problem lies in the wire mesh??

or dun tell me u tried removing the VFAD liao with the mesh intact?

coupe07
08-16-2005, 08:46 PM
bro, i tot the VFAD is not the problem???? the problem lies in the wire mesh??

or dun tell me u tried removing the VFAD liao with the mesh intact?
to add on to sqflyer's post..... the apexi filter is by far the BEST cone filter, followed by K&N. Lots of tests have been done to confirmed this. sad to say, the HKS one rated the worst... those looking at HKS racing suction..... :D :D :D..... let me attach a report finding to discourage u to spend the 1k on an air intake.... :D

sorry to HKS racing suction owners.... seems like i got something against HKS products... :D :D :D

coupe07
08-16-2005, 09:02 PM
review of various filters:


http://mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/

XtremeRev
08-16-2005, 10:12 PM
Well, basically the Simota intake works fine as long as the VFAD has NOT been removed on your 8. Personally, I prefer the Dual Funnel Power Intake from A'pexi which by the way is the no. 1 brand for air filters. So I replaced the Simota intake's air filter element with the A'pexi Power Intake air filter and thus the "A'peximota" is born. I just installed my modified intake last night and drove around town without a hitch. Will try to do some test runs then I can analyse the performance data and see if it really works well before I can recommend it to anyone. In the meantime, you can just order your Simota Intake with me and I'll get them to reserve a piece for you in the next shipment. The A'pexi Power Intake mod can always come later.

Sgflyer, how much does the simota intake cost? quite interested to change too.

M-ster
08-16-2005, 10:44 PM
May i know where i can find the A'pexi filter? And how much would that cost?

Cheers

coupe07
08-16-2005, 10:48 PM
Sgflyer, how much does the simota intake cost? quite interested to change too.
the original simota intake dun cost much.... BUT to make it effective and efficient and maximise the performance, suggest you do exactly wat flyer did:

1. add in the wire mesh
2. change to apexi cone filter

u may wish to ask flyer whther he is doing the mass order for the simota intake only or he is doing the MO for his "apeximota intake" :D :D (got difference one ok.....).... we have our own source of apexi supplier, so u guys no need to worry. Provided flyer is free enuf to modify for u guys, that is.......

I'm pretty sure this (the "apeximota" hor.... not the original simota) works for the autos as well..... if the auto pple are not convinced, pls volunteer one auto to be the "guinea pig" and try.... i'm pretty sure it can work after extensive testing by flyer.....

he has tried n errored (in chimology terms, its called "R & D") many many ways to make sure this intake works..... so trust the man...!!

coupe07
08-16-2005, 10:49 PM
May i know where i can find the A'pexi filter? And how much would that cost?

Cheers
bro, take note its only the filter cone head....

M-ster
08-16-2005, 11:57 PM
bro, take note its only the filter cone head....

ya I know, was thinking if can replace the K&N one that came with our Revi. If its not too pricey dont mind trying it out, if it fit that is.

coupe07
08-17-2005, 01:15 AM
ya I know, was thinking if can replace the K&N one that came with our Revi. If its not too pricey dont mind trying it out, if it fit that is.
but the one by racing beat is fairly well-designed.... with the horn inside somemore....

fitting wise, shldn be a big prob...... the cone is quite small.....

sqflyer
08-17-2005, 02:51 AM
bro, i tot the VFAD is not the problem???? the problem lies in the wire mesh??

or dun tell me u tried removing the VFAD liao with the mesh intact?
I have yet to remove the VFAD on my car because I don't want to rip out the front bumper again until I get my hands on the REVi RAD, so I can't confirm if the problem lies in the wire mesh or the VFAD. All I can say is the wire mesh does help to stabilise the air flow but I don't know if the wire mesh is enough to solve the stalling problem without the VFAD until I remove the VFAD.

In any case, I mentioned to Vanquish that he can just get the Simota Intake and it'll still work fine as long as the VFAD is not removed because the Simota Intake does NOT come with the wire mesh so the VFAD must be there. Or else he will have the same stalling problems that I've encountered.

sorry to HKS racing suction owners.... seems like i got something against HKS products...
review of various filters:
http://mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/
No lah, it just SEEMS like you got something against HKS. Thanks for sharing the info and providing the link to this report. I've been searching for your previous post on it but didn't find it.

Sgflyer, how much does the simota intake cost? quite interested to change too.
The cost of the Simota Carbon Fiber Aero Form Intake is around $390-$400 but they told me they would give us a cheaper price for club members. However, they have not given me an official quote (maybe $360?). Once the next shipment is in, they plan to come down to one of our Sunday meet-ups and do a mass sale & installation and take some photos for their marketing/promotional purposes. Because each shipment has limited quantities, I'm just helping them to coordinate now many from our club intend to get the Simota Intake so they can reserve the necessary quantity for us.

So far I've got a number of people who have expressed interest in the Simota Intake but I've only confirmed order for Orr-beh and Vanquish. Please PM or SMS me your confirmation if you guys want me to reserve your Simota Intake in the next shipment.

M-ster
08-17-2005, 03:21 AM
I have yet to remove the VFAD on my car because I don't want to rip out the front bumper again until I get my hands on the REVi RAD,

You might wanna try just removing the air reflextor(the piece that's visible once you open up the hood, nearest to the nose piece) and try accessing the VFAD via that hole. If my memory didnt fail me I think the VFAD can be access thru that hole.... that again I could be wrong... but worth taking a look.

Siesta
08-17-2005, 04:44 AM
Since you guys are on the topic of air filters, what are your views of the heat shields these intakes provide? Do you think its really effective in blocking heat from the engine? :confused:

sqflyer
08-17-2005, 04:59 AM
The VFAD cannot be removed without taking out the bumper. The access hole from the top is not big enough as there are several metal extrusions that obstruct the opening and the safety catch for the bonnet as well. You can see the VFAD, but it's too big to fit through the top hole.

I think the layout of our engine compartment is good with the air intake in front of the engine and the air inlet providing "cooler" air from the front. However, due to the high heat of our engines and the fact that our air intake sits directly above the radiator, some sort of air box or heat shield is definitely a welcomed bonus. Personally, I like the look of Simota's "Carbon Fiber" heat shield and it helps to keep the sound levels down too.

LsBlack
08-17-2005, 05:26 AM
U certainly ve to emphasize the sound level to poison me right???? :mad: :p :D

sqflyer
08-17-2005, 07:33 AM
If your poison resistance is strong, nobody can succeed, but if your resistance is weak don't need me to poison you coz you'll poison yourself... :p Hee hee hee :D

coupe07
08-17-2005, 07:36 AM
U certainly ve to emphasize the sound level to poison me right???? :mad: :p :D
he dun need to tell u the sound.....

juz need to tell u the carbon fibre look oredi add 10 horses liao...... :D :D

lohsk
08-17-2005, 08:00 AM
he dun need to tell u the sound.....

juz need to tell u the carbon fibre look oredi add 10 horses liao...... :D :D

ha ha

sgrenesis
08-17-2005, 09:40 AM
U certainly ve to emphasize the sound level to poison me right???? :mad: :p :D

Young apprentice, guess like you just opened a can of "whoop ass" so I cant help you any further. :eek:

Vanquish
08-17-2005, 01:20 PM
Happened to pass by ST-Powered today so I went in and take a look... according to the boss, The Apexi got no air filter cone for RX-8 yet leh... Is it true?? Coz I understand that Sqflyer already got one, or izit a different model or something?

I'm dying to hear the air intake moan as I thrash my accelerator!!! :D

sqflyer
08-17-2005, 02:42 PM
Just an update, I just did a couple of runs for fun and the performance data was marginally over my original run with the stock intake. However, this is inconclusive as the original run with the stock intake was done on a different day under different environmental conditions. I will do a stock vs A'pexi runs one after another to get more definitive results over the next few days. A friend who was present at the runs commented that the sound of the intake was very smooth and sounded "sweet". LsBlack... this one's for you... :)

coupe07
08-17-2005, 07:47 PM
Happened to pass by ST-Powered today so I went in and take a look... according to the boss, The Apexi got no air filter cone for RX-8 yet leh... Is it true?? Coz I understand that Sqflyer already got one, or izit a different model or something?

I'm dying to hear the air intake moan as I thrash my accelerator!!! :D
yes, there is no intake set from apexi for the rx8 yet... meaning the pipe plus the filter head plus the concealed box/heat shield

the one sq is using is a general cone filter from apexi that can be fixed on any cars...

Vanquish
08-18-2005, 01:01 AM
yes, there is no intake set from apexi for the rx8 yet... meaning the pipe plus the filter head plus the concealed box/heat shield

the one sq is using is a general cone filter from apexi that can be fixed on any cars...


okie okie... roger! :P

Siesta
08-18-2005, 08:37 AM
Just an update, I just did a couple of runs for fun and the performance data was marginally over my original run with the stock intake. However, this is inconclusive as the original run with the stock intake was done on a different day under different environmental conditions. I will do a stock vs A'pexi runs one after another to get more definitive results over the next few days. A friend who was present at the runs commented that the sound of the intake was very smooth and sounded "sweet". LsBlack... this one's for you... :)

Yo SQflyer, you moulding the holy grail of air filters for the rx8? :p Thats an awfully lot of research you're doing for an intake dude.

BTW is that the auto bahn kit you got there? Looks awesome on the yellow. Its got a very European sports car feel to it. Didnt seem to stand out as much on the black 8 they advertised the kit on.

sgrenesis
08-18-2005, 12:08 PM
hee hee, SQ must be feeling :D inside already.

:p

sqflyer
08-19-2005, 01:20 AM
Yo SQflyer, you moulding the holy grail of air filters for the rx8? :p Thats an awfully lot of research you're doing for an intake dude.

BTW is that the auto bahn kit you got there? Looks awesome on the yellow. Its got a very European sports car feel to it. Didnt seem to stand out as much on the black 8 they advertised the kit on.
No lah, there's no such thing as a holy grail for air filters for our 8s. Performance benefits from intake isn't significant. I'm learning about air filters from going through all this exercise. As they say, it's about the journey, not the destination. Wah.. that's a lot of ink. :p

As for my 8's new dress, yes it's the Autobahn kit. I like the clean lines and I think it makes the 8 look more classy. The lines and contours look more defined on a bright coloured car. Definitely brings a :)

Vanquish
08-19-2005, 02:19 AM
No lah, there's no such thing as a holy grail for air filters for our 8s. Performance benefits from intake isn't significant. I'm learning about air filters from going through all this exercise. As they say, it's about the journey, not the destination. Wah.. that's a lot of ink. :p

As for my 8's new dress, yes it's the Autobahn kit. I like the clean lines and I think it makes the 8 look more classy. The lines and contours look more defined on a bright coloured car. Definitely brings a :)

Yup bro! nice kit u got there! not too complicated yet still very "fierce"!! :)

8citing
08-19-2005, 05:47 AM
SQ/Coupe, I volunteer my auto 8 for the apeximota!

sqflyer
08-19-2005, 06:45 AM
Nobody needs to be a guinea pig... virus drives an auto and he switched from K&N to A'pexi so no problems with the A'pexi on autos. So 8citing, you want to get the Simota Intake + A'pexi filter too?

Matrix11
08-19-2005, 07:54 AM
Bro, wats the damage for Apeximota?

coupe07
08-19-2005, 08:22 AM
Bro, wats the damage for Apeximota?
i wld suggest all to mod into wat SQ has done.... definitely better than the stock simota.....

sqflyer
08-19-2005, 01:45 PM
The price of the Simota Intake itself is not under my "department" as the distributor will charge you whatever price after the discount, but as a guide they mentioned that their regular price is around $390-$400. The A'pexi Power Intake is around $110 with the 3" adapter ring. You may be able to find the A'pexi for less but it's without the adapter ring. Other material required is the wire mesh, a longer 8x40mm bolt to mount the A'pexi to the Simota pipe and black silicon to seal up the gap. I'll try to see where I can cut down on the cost but at this point I'd safely say no more than $150 for the A'pexi mod.

Vanquish
08-19-2005, 01:59 PM
Sqflyer,

I'm dying to get some real grunt from my 8, can I fix the Apexi into my car 1st while waiting for the simota?!?!

If yes, where to get?? :D

sqflyer
08-19-2005, 06:57 PM
Vanquish, that's a bit hard to do because there's no place to attach the A'pexi Power Intake to as it doesn't come with an intake pipe. However, I MAY have a solution for you. I gotta go to work now, but I'll call you later today when I get back.

Vanquish
08-19-2005, 11:32 PM
Vanquish, that's a bit hard to do because there's no place to attach the A'pexi Power Intake to as it doesn't come with an intake pipe. However, I MAY have a solution for you. I gotta go to work now, but I'll call you later today when I get back.

okie! okie! Thanxs!!! :D :D

8citing
08-21-2005, 07:41 PM
SQ, yup! I wanna fit the apeximota....for the grunt. hehe... Let me know how and when i can get it. Thanks.....

sqflyer
08-23-2005, 04:50 PM
Just an update, the A'peximota has been tested today to run WITHOUT the VFAD installed. Throttle response was reported to be good and engine idling was fine - no drop below normal idling and no stalling when the engine was allowed to coast at high speeds. It seems the A'pexi filter and wire mesh are doing their jobs better than the Simota intake in it's original form. So for you guys who are interested to get the Simota intake and have removed your VFAD (or want to remove it), the A'pexi "mod" on the original Simota intake is recommended.

sqflyer
08-23-2005, 04:56 PM
SQ, yup! I wanna fit the apeximota....for the grunt. hehe... Let me know how and when i can get it. Thanks.....I'll reserve a piece for you when the distributor's next shipment arrives. Then I'll have to do the modifications to install the A'pexi filter into the Simota Carbon Fiber Aero Form Intake. Will update you guys on the ETA of the next shipment.

Drifter
08-23-2005, 10:20 PM
I'll reserve a piece for you when the distributor's next shipment arrives. Then I'll have to do the modifications to install the A'pexi filter into the Simota Carbon Fiber Aero Form Intake. Will update you guys on the ETA of the next shipment.

SQFlyer:
Wow !! Since there is no problem. I wish to reserve one Simota Carbon intake as well. :-) with the A'pexi filter !!

Heard that you might wanna another type of intake huh? What will that be ya? Just curious....

Regards,
Drifter

coupe07
08-23-2005, 10:24 PM
Just an update, the A'peximota has been tested today to run WITHOUT the VFAD installed. Throttle response was reported to be good and engine idling was fine - no drop below normal idling and no stalling when the engine was allowed to coast at high speeds. It seems the A'pexi filter and wire mesh are doing their jobs better than the Simota intake in it's original form. So for you guys who are interested to get the Simota intake and have removed your VFAD (or want to remove it), the A'pexi "mod" on the original Simota intake is recommended.
how abt the grunt???

coupe07
08-23-2005, 10:25 PM
SQFlyer:
Heard that you might wanna another type of intake huh? What will that be ya? Just curious....

Regards,
Drifter
this one u oso noe ah???? :D

8citing
08-24-2005, 01:07 AM
Thanks SQ! But I'll need help to fit it. Me not as experienced as u...u fly boeing...I only know how to fix back de-railed bicycle chain...

sqflyer
08-24-2005, 01:30 AM
Yeah, forgot to mention the grunt.... The Simota Intake is definitely louder (but not by much) with the A'pexi filter compared to the original Simota filter. Has a slightly deeper "throaty" sound, so you guys looking for some grunt should enjoy it when you push your 8s. Normal driving is still very quiet, just slightly louder than the stock intake and barely noticeable. You can ask virus and jetblast for their opinions as they are using the A'pexi Power Intake as well. Although not with the Simota intake pipe and CF heat shield, but performance and sound should be similar. Coupe07 also tested the A'peximota intake, so he can provide some feedback.

Drifter:
I'll add you to the list. I wanted to get Racing Beat's REVi Ram Air Duct ever since it was launched earlier this year and from what I read, it works best with Racing Beat's own REVi Intake (obviously). I'll be getting a complete REVi Intake and Ram Air Duct set sometime next month.

8citing:
No problem. It's very easy to install, only 15 min job. I'll help you with it once I get the parts and do the modifications.

Drifter
08-24-2005, 04:23 AM
Yeah, forgot to mention the grunt.... The Simota Intake is definitely louder (but not by much) with the A'pexi filter compared to the original Simota filter. Has a slightly deeper "throaty" sound, so you guys looking for some grunt should enjoy it when you push your 8s. Normal driving is still very quiet, just slightly louder than the stock intake and barely noticeable. You can ask virus and jetblast for their opinions as they are using the A'pexi Power Intake as well. Although not with the Simota intake pipe and CF heat shield, but performance and sound should be similar. Coupe07 also tested the A'peximota intake, so he can provide some feedback.

Drifter:
I'll add you to the list. I wanted to get Racing Beat's REVi Ram Air Duct ever since it was launched earlier this year and from what I read, it works best with Racing Beat's own REVi Intake (obviously). I'll be getting a complete REVi Intake and Ram Air Duct set sometime next month.

8citing:
No problem. It's very easy to install, only 15 min job. I'll help you with it once I get the parts and do the modifications.


SQFlyer:
In this case, might as well sell me your Used complete set of Intake with all the modification ... this way is better .... isit? ... I also interested in the RB Ram air duct .... dunno whether its can compliment the Apexi-mota or not....

Drifter
08-24-2005, 04:23 AM
this one u oso noe ah???? :D

Coupe07:

Hee hee ... of course man !!! .....

coupe07
08-24-2005, 07:07 AM
SQFlyer:
In this case, might as well sell me your Used complete set of Intake with all the modification ... this way is better .... isit? ... I also interested in the RB Ram air duct .... dunno whether its can compliment the Apexi-mota or not....
i tink oredi sold liao..... u were slower off the mark, bro...

sqflyer
08-24-2005, 01:35 PM
SQFlyer:
In this case, might as well sell me your Used complete set of Intake with all the modification ... this way is better .... isit? ... I also interested in the RB Ram air duct .... dunno whether its can compliment the Apexi-mota or not....Ermm... Sorry, I didn't know it was in such high demand. I offered it to Vanquish because he also wants to buy over my fog lights. He is outstation now but will be taking it next week when he gets back. If he changes his mind, you'll be the first in line.

The RB REVi RAD can work with any intake but the "Ram Air" effect is lost if it the outlet of the RAD is not sealed to the inlet of the intake. It essentially becomes a "Cold Air" duct with any other intake other than RB's own REVi intake. That's the reason why I'm getting the complete RB REVi intake and REVi RAD and selling the A'peximota.

Drifter
08-24-2005, 09:51 PM
Ermm... Sorry, I didn't know it was in such high demand. I offered it to Vanquish because he also wants to buy over my fog lights. He is outstation now but will be taking it next week when he gets back. If he changes his mind, you'll be the first in line.

The RB REVi RAD can work with any intake but the "Ram Air" effect is lost if it the outlet of the RAD is not sealed to the inlet of the intake. It essentially becomes a "Cold Air" duct with any other intake other than RB's own REVi intake. That's the reason why I'm getting the complete RB REVi intake and REVi RAD and selling the A'peximota.

SQFLYER:
Ai ya .... so I was too slow.... well keep me as the 2nd person for your used Apexi-mota if he changes his mind ya ....In the meantime, hopefully the new shipment of the intakes will come in soon ....
Actually I was also interested in the Fog lamps .. but seems like no one is selling it ...



Coupe07:
You never tell me he is selling his Apexi mota .... you no good ya ....

coupe07
08-25-2005, 12:04 AM
SQFLYER:
Ai ya .... so I was too slow.... well keep me as the 2nd person for your used Apexi-mota if he changes his mind ya ....In the meantime, hopefully the new shipment of the intakes will come in soon ....
Actually I was also interested in the Fog lamps .. but seems like no one is selling it ...



Coupe07:
You never tell me he is selling his Apexi mota .... you no good ya ....
the foggies... i was selling them a while ago... sq has been trying to sell them off as well...... CLUE: look at those who changed their whole front bumper for a diff kit... they are the ones likely to sell their fogs. CLUE AGAIN: red rocket is changing her bumper soon. :D

as for the intake: bro... how to inform each n everyone someone is selling something.... if like dat i whole day must jaga rx8 club leh.....

LsBlack
08-25-2005, 12:20 AM
the foggies... i was selling them a while ago... sq has been trying to sell them off as well...... CLUE: look at those who changed their whole front bumper for a diff kit... they are the ones likely to sell their fogs. CLUE AGAIN: red rocket is changing her bumper soon. :D

as for the intake: bro... how to inform each n everyone someone is selling something.... if like dat i whole day must jaga rx8 club leh.....

hahahahah

:eek: this girl getting bery fierce,any perform mod for her?? :rolleyes:

lohsk
08-25-2005, 12:46 AM
hahahahah

:eek: this girl getting bery fierce,any perform mod for her?? :rolleyes:

You better catch up man...

coupe07
08-25-2005, 01:42 AM
hahahahah

:eek: this girl getting bery fierce,any perform mod for her?? :rolleyes:
u say she fierce, then u waiting for wat??? :D

LsBlack
08-25-2005, 02:43 AM
Vision Autodynamics? Carisma? Knight sports best ;)
ok better dun ask for it.
U guys r really something :p

sqflyer
08-25-2005, 02:46 AM
Yah lor... tell you to test intake oso dun want... haiz. Test only leah...

coupe07
08-25-2005, 02:53 AM
Vision Autodynamics? Carisma? Knight sports best ;)
ok better dun ask for it.
U guys r really something :p
u can be something oso mah... its whether u wan or dun wan only...... :D

LsBlack
08-25-2005, 03:06 AM
Yah lor... tell you to test intake oso dun want... haiz. Test only leah...

Haiz.... dun say laio lah,
but i got a feeling :rolleyes: ......,bro sgrenesis might not wan to return u laio.
did u try calling him..... :D :D

"the numbar u call, is not in use" <===sgrenesis's voice. :D

coupe07
08-25-2005, 03:12 AM
Haiz.... dun say laio lah,
but i got a feeling :rolleyes: ......,bro sgrenesis might not wan to return u laio.
did u try calling him..... :D :D
u scared u oso dun feel like returning ah???

try it... definitely feel different one.... :D :D :D

LsBlack
08-25-2005, 03:13 AM
u can be something oso mah... its whether u wan or dun wan only...... :D

tell me how.....
how to be something when got noting.....
Not to forget,my 2 "FD" at home :p ,haiz..... :D

coupe07
08-25-2005, 03:20 AM
tell me how.....
how to be something when got noting.....
Not to forget,my 2 "FD" at home :p ,haiz..... :D
oh yah hor... u got 2 x FD at home.... mai siao siao.... :D :D :D

sgrenesis
08-25-2005, 06:43 AM
No lah I where got not so steady one, I never switch off my phone only divert to other people number nia. :P

coupe07
08-25-2005, 08:48 AM
"the numbar u call, is not in use" <===sgrenesis's voice. :D
hahahahahahahhahaha

Matrix11
08-25-2005, 09:44 AM
Yo SQ, kudos to you for helping us non tech types mod the mod..... ;)


SQFlyer:
Wow !! Since there is no problem. I wish to reserve one Simota Carbon intake as well. :-) with the A'pexi filter !!

Heard that you might wanna another type of intake huh? What will that be ya? Just curious....

Regards,
Drifter

sqflyer
08-25-2005, 10:25 AM
Hey my pleasure... enjoy sharing the knowledge and helping out when I can.

sqflyer
08-26-2005, 05:18 PM
More updates:
The intake works fine on auto RX-8s. No idling nor engine stalling issues and improvement in throttle response was noted. As for performance figures, an average of 2 runs using the new intake and an average of 2 previous runs using the stock intake on the same stretch of road gave VERY close figures. In fact, most timings were less than 0.1sec apart. Gains in HP were 0.8HP or 0.65kW and gains in Torque were 0.7Nm. Although a little inconclusive as the runs were done on a different day under different environment conditions, the results were not surprising. Gains were marginal for manual 8s and even thinner for auto 8s in our tests. Basically, don't expect to see much improvement in terms of performance (as with other intakes). Just enjoy the improved throttle response, more "grunt" in the sound department and a nice shiny CF heat shield airbox when you open your bonnet.

Genesis
08-27-2005, 08:59 AM
Basically, don't expect to see much improvement in terms of performance (as with other intakes). Just enjoy the improved throttle response, more "grunt" in the sound department and a nice shiny CF heat shield airbox when you open your bonnet.
Excellent summary bro....that about sums up the benefits of HKS RS as well, with the exception of the nice shiny CF heat shield :o

morganoh
09-04-2005, 04:27 AM
Any one interested in Rotary Extreme intake?
http://www.rotaryextreme.com/rx8intake.html

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=70666

Going back to the original filter box, as wife do not like the sound of the intake and she is complaining that its too noise for her and the baby.

sqflyer
10-02-2005, 03:40 PM
Just for your info, the stock for the Simota CF Aero Form intake is in. There is plenty of stock available so I didn't need to make any reservations for you guys with the distributor. The last price I was told was around $380. Those of you who are interested in the intake, I would recommend that you test out the A'pexi modified intake on your car before you buy the Simota intake. Please PM me to arrange a test and if you like it, then you can proceed to buy the Simota intake from the distributor directly.

I'm also organising a purchase of the Racing Beat REVi Intake and REVi Ram Air Duct for those of you who are interested in that. Fixed price from Racing Beat, but perhaps can save a bit on shipping and share the cost of the wire transfer. Will post in the REVi thread.

coupe07
10-02-2005, 10:25 PM
Just for your info, the stock for the Simota CF Aero Form intake is in. There is plenty of stock available so I didn't need to make any reservations for you guys with the distributor. The last price I was told was around $380. Those of you who are interested in the intake, I would recommend that you test out the A'pexi modified intake on your car before you buy the Simota intake. Please PM me to arrange a test and if you like it, then you can proceed to buy the Simota intake from the distributor directly.

I'm also organising a purchase of the Racing Beat REVi Intake and REVi Ram Air Duct for those of you who are interested in that. Fixed price from Racing Beat, but perhaps can save a bit on shipping and share the cost of the wire transfer. Will post in the REVi thread.
if u guys are restricted by budget, then the sqflyer's modified intake is the way to go....

daniel_s
12-13-2005, 09:55 PM
Hi Guys,

This is Daniel, from Avantgarde Automotive, Sole distributor of SIMOTA Products. We are presently offering free upgrades for owners who have previous bought the RX8 Carbon Fiber Aeroform from any of our dealers. The idling unstable issue has been remedied, it was due to the oversized sensor adapter. Please kindly call 6789-7088 for an appointment. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

coupe07
12-13-2005, 11:34 PM
Hi Guys,

This is Daniel, from Avantgarde Automotive, Sole distributor of SIMOTA Products. We are presently offering free upgrades for owners who have previous bought the RX8 Carbon Fiber Aeroform from any of our dealers. The idling unstable issue has been remedied, it was due to the oversized sensor adapter. Please kindly call 6789-7088 for an appointment. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.
tot chip soon is the sole distributor?

morganoh
12-14-2005, 02:43 AM
tot chip soon is the sole distributor?


So Avantgarde Automotive will be giving all those who bought their filter box bought from Too Chip Soon a Free Upgrade. :ylsuper:

Drifter
12-14-2005, 11:47 PM
Yo Coupe,

So where did SQFlyer bought his Simota previously? Can upgrade his as well?


tot chip soon is the sole distributor?

coupe07
12-15-2005, 12:14 AM
Yo Coupe,

So where did SQFlyer bought his Simota previously? Can upgrade his as well?
juz found out chip soon is the authorised dealer.... avantgarde is the distributor...

chrispiec
12-29-2010, 05:07 PM
Hi guys,

i am new to the site and i must say the info on here is outstanding. I found this post most interesting as im suffering issues with this intake.

I fitted this intake at the beginning of December and intially it was awesome but on its first journey at high speed on the freeway i got the dropping rpm and then leading onto the car cutting out.

I fitted the standard airbox again and was trouble free for around 120 miles until refitting the umnitza today.

I read this thread last night and thought i'll fit a mesh to the intake and have another go. I did this today and then took the car for a 20 mile blast of mixed driving and then it all started again. Its seems as the hotter the car gets the worse the symptoms are. But only with this intake installed. It is really bugging me as i like the look and the noise of the intake.

Any ideas? I've been emailing umnitza directly but they dont really have any answers.