View Full Version : Is an RX-7 in the works for 2006?
buweet 03-07-2005, 04:28 PM I am debating between waiting for the '06's to come out and buy a leftover '05 or wait for the possible return of the RX-7 (if it will exist as an '06). Does anyone know the latest rumor mill for the return of an RX-7? If the RX-7 is no where in sight, I may just get a leftover '04 right now.
Does anyone have a clue or does a Mazda rep. want to make an announcement on this site? Help!
abbid 03-07-2005, 04:36 PM How old are you?
Reactionary 03-07-2005, 04:37 PM No one here knows. But I have predicted elsewhere on this forum that the rotary will be discontinued after 2007 OR a 2008 RX7 will come out in the spring or summer of 2007.
RCMarquis 03-07-2005, 04:39 PM I really doubt Mazda would make an announcement for something like that. If they were going to bring back the Rx-7 I think it would be highly secretive. But I personally don't think they will bring it back. I think we will see a MazdaSpeed version of the RX-8 in '06 or '07. I think the 7 is gone for good.
greene76 03-07-2005, 04:39 PM Well, if there was anyword of a rx-7, these guys would be all over it! Depending on your financial status, I would hold out for the mazdaspeed 8, every indication points to factory boost, with all the goodies, i.e. suspension, flywheel, bodykit. I would guess in the 40's.
TRU681 03-07-2005, 04:39 PM I dont think the rotary engine will be discontinued because that's the only thing special about Mazda besides the world record selling Miata.
Well, if there was anyword of a rx-7, these guys would be all over it! Depending on your financial status, I would hold out for the mazdaspeed 8, every indication points to factory boost, with all the goodies, i.e. suspension, flywheel, bodykit. I would guess in the 40's.
I really hope you're guessing wrong on the price. If you've seen the supercharged version in Speed magazine, it still will only have 275 HP and 200 torque. Even with the body kit, there's no way they can charge over $40k and expect to sell many of them. I'd say $35-36k tops. There would still be several sports cars that are way more powerful for way less money. Otherwise we might be looking at the demise of the RX-7 all over again with the 8.
cas2themoe 03-07-2005, 11:40 PM I think it would be better if they left the RX7 in the past. It's a classic and should be left that way. I hope our RX8's will become classic's one day as well. The Rotary Engine is a master peice! Well at least in my eyes. The RX8 became a classic to me as soon as I drove one. :D
Mugatu 03-07-2005, 11:58 PM The RX-7 is coming out next Monday. My uncle works at Mazda and he told me. You heard it here first, folks.
Kart Racer 03-08-2005, 06:36 PM I love my 8 and the FD i used to own. I hope that after a few successful years of the 8 they do introduce some sort of coupe. Whether its the RX-7,9 10, or 20, i dont care, just as long as mazda has the rotary in a coupe would be amazing. Maybe a replacement for my 8 down the road. Either way, way to go mazda, i love the 8!
RX4life 03-09-2005, 07:46 PM a new RX-7??
it will totally devalue and conflict with the RX-8.. it makes NO SUCH ECONOMICAL SENSE!!!!"
i think there are enough people whinin about gas mileage.. i dont think a turbo rotary is necessary for todays market where gas prices are upward of 90C per litre..
FACT:
the RX-8 is the new RX-7. jsut like the 350 is the 300Z.. the e46 M3 is the new e36.. and the g35 the new skyline.
corporations are out there to make a profit.. and introduce cars in the market that fit in the real world...I think the RX-8 was an excellent way to make a comeback for the rotary.. and we should all anticipate the arrival of the MAZDASPPED.. not an RX-7.. that would be plain stupid!
:o
P.S. We are talking about FORD here...anything to cut costs!!! unless MAZDA does its homwork... it will cost them a fortune in warranties again i believe... jsut look back 10yrs ago..
mercury273 03-10-2005, 04:00 AM I love you Mugatu, I come on here everyday and look for the thread in which you own someone the worst. Today this is that thread. Well done!
Mazda is very secretive. I heard from a very very very good source that Mazda will be ressurecting the RX7, no more info on a date though. I also heard that the next MSMiata will be something special. My source knows alot about the auto industry and to date he hasn't been wrong. He doesn't divulge much info though.
Gambit 03-10-2005, 09:47 AM It would not make business sense to release another rx7.
New RX7 threads are becoming worse than MPG threads
army_rx8 03-10-2005, 09:50 AM ^^no kidding
Smoker 03-10-2005, 11:28 AM Mazda is very secretive. I heard from a very very very good source that Mazda will be ressurecting the RX7, no more info on a date though. I also heard that the next MSMiata will be something special. My source knows alot about the auto industry and to date he hasn't been wrong. He doesn't divulge much info though.
I too have someone close who works on the business side of Mazda. The design and the plans had all been made, they are pending for approval.
DreRX8 03-10-2005, 11:47 AM The rotary will be around for a while--RX8 sales are not hurting as they just celebrated rolling 100,000 off of the line. As far as the RX7 its all rumoured--I'd be willing to bet you'd see a more powerful RX8 (mazdaspeed) before the RX7. I doubt we'll hear anything concret before 2007.
zoom44 03-10-2005, 12:22 PM the protottype of the next rx-7 is already built look for it in a motorshow in the next year
DARKMAZ8 03-10-2005, 02:40 PM the protottype of the next rx-7 is already built look for it in a motorshow in the next year
umm who/where did u get this info from?......I just heard so many rumors about this that im not gonna believe it till i c it..... :confused:
Reactionary 03-10-2005, 02:52 PM So there are 3 people with some sort of evidence. Plus me, using pure mind power, super logic, and psychic ability. A new RX7 for all of us!!!!!!
Smoker 03-10-2005, 03:32 PM If you read the Yamaguchi book, you probably will remember the part where they were building a case to convince the people in Ford to give Mazda the go ahead on the RENESIS engine. The RX-7 is exactly at that stage right now.
So the RX-7 is not a rumour, not a speculation but simply pending for approval. Let's just hope the RX-8 numbers looks good enough for them.
Dinhx8 03-10-2005, 04:39 PM a new RX-7??
FACT:
the RX-8 is the new RX-7. jsut like the 350 is the 300Z.. the e46 M3 is the new e36.. and the g35 the new skyline.
corporations are out there to make a profit.. and introduce cars in the market that fit in the real world...I think the RX-8 was an excellent way to make a comeback for the rotary.. and we should all anticipate the arrival of the MAZDASPPED.. not an RX-7.. that would be plain stupid!
:o
while i agree with many here that rx7 speculation is getting old, NOR am I proclaiming any sort of authority whatsoever, i will say this: it is actually ECONOMICAL for Mazda and Ford to build more cars on the 8s forum. In fact, one of the 'agreements' made for the 8 when it came out was that they had to make sure the platform could be used on other cars. Hence Miata, and also, hence ohter possibilities, in this case rx7. Just as Infiniti has the G35, M45 all floating on the same platform, and as Acura has tl/tsx/accord, etc Mazda has yet to fully utilize the 8s solid chassis.
Well, to start the new Miata is based on the 8's new chasis.
I wouldn't mind another 7 coming around. But as someone here stated the 7 and the MS8 would be in direct competition. . besides the 2 extra seats and new looks, how much can they differ?
Shocka 03-10-2005, 04:53 PM well the magic 8 ball just said
"Try again later"
DAM YOU MAGIC 8 BALL!!!
Reactionary 03-10-2005, 04:58 PM while i agree with many here that rx7 speculation is getting old, NOR am I proclaiming any sort of authority whatsoever, i will say this: it is actually ECONOMICAL for Mazda and Ford to build more cars on the 8s forum. In fact, one of the 'agreements' made for the 8 when it came out was that they had to make sure the platform could be used on other cars. Hence Miata, and also, hence ohter possibilities, in this case rx7. Just as Infiniti has the G35, M45 all floating on the same platform, and as Acura has tl/tsx/accord, etc Mazda has yet to fully utilize the 8s solid chassis.
Good point. Maybe a Miata coupe instead of RX7?
therm8 03-10-2005, 07:19 PM I looked in my crystal ball, and determined the following:
An Rx-7 will be produced in 2008 for the 2009 model year.
The EPA will finally get around to updating their fuel efficiency tests to match real world driving.
The Rx-7 and Rx-8 will get slapped with a gas guzzler tax, raising their prices to around $40,000
The rotary engine will cease to exist again, due to poor sales.
rXter 03-10-2005, 08:01 PM Cool, a collector car in 3 short years. I'll put it in a big plastic bag and sell it for $40K in 2025. uh huh
Mazda is bringing the next gen Miata for 2006. So they're not gonna release another new sportscar in the same year.
A new RX-7 makes perfect sense -- they get to use mostly parts they already have to make a whole 'nother car.
BlueEyes 03-11-2005, 12:02 AM http://www.drifting.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6034&stc=1
G8rboy 03-11-2005, 12:40 AM a new RX-7??
it will totally devalue and conflict with the RX-8.. it makes NO SUCH ECONOMICAL SENSE!!!!"
i think there are enough people whinin about gas mileage.. i dont think a turbo rotary is necessary for todays market where gas prices are upward of 90C per litre..
FACT:
the RX-8 is the new RX-7. jsut like the 350 is the 300Z.. the e46 M3 is the new e36.. and the g35 the new skyline.
corporations are out there to make a profit.. and introduce cars in the market that fit in the real world...I think the RX-8 was an excellent way to make a comeback for the rotary.. and we should all anticipate the arrival of the MAZDASPPED.. not an RX-7.. that would be plain stupid!
:o
P.S. We are talking about FORD here...anything to cut costs!!! unless MAZDA does its homwork... it will cost them a fortune in warranties again i believe... jsut look back 10yrs ago..
Sorry- but you're way off. The RX-8 is NOT the new RX-7. They share the same type of motor, and that's about it. The RX-7 was a pure, light weight purpose built sports car produced in small numbers aimed at the enthusiast market. That is not the RX-8's intent at all- it's a 4 door sports coupe with luxury and practicality in mind. The 8 competes with the Infiniti G35 more than it does with the 350Z when you look at amenities, ride quality, and practicality.
A new '7 would complement the RX8, not conflict with it. Yes, a small segment of rotary enthusiasts would choose the RX7 over the RX8, but that is not Mazda's target audience with the 8. And don't be so sure that there's going to be a turbo under the hood if Mazda does (and I believe they will) make a new 7- my bet is they learned their lesson with the FD and will make a beefed up naturally aspirated rotary with higher displacement , and leave the turbos up to the aftermarket and tuners. I'll bet Ford and Mazda are looking very closely at the success of the Renesis in the RX-8 to determine if they should greenlight the next 7... and based on the last 18 months that I've seen, the Renesis has proven itself.
G8rboy 03-11-2005, 12:48 AM I really hope you're guessing wrong on the price. If you've seen the supercharged version in Speed magazine, it still will only have 275 HP and 200 torque. Even with the body kit, there's no way they can charge over $40k and expect to sell many of them. I'd say $35-36k tops. There would still be several sports cars that are way more powerful for way less money. Otherwise we might be looking at the demise of the RX-7 all over again with the 8.
Considering the RX-8 fully loaded is MSRP at $35-36k, I don't think it's a stretch to see a new RX7 in the low 40's. Hell, wasn't the FD selling in the high $30's over 10 years ago? I don't think Mazda produces a car like the 7 to sell millions and make a small profit on them... they build the 7 to rebuild their enthusiast and performance car image, and further the R&D on the rotary. Much like why Honda builds the NSX... (not that I want to see the next 7 priced in that exotic car stratosphere).
zoom44 05-31-2005, 03:16 PM thought i would bump an o;der thread instead of anew one
found this pic today and was wondering if anyone knew the mag it came from or had seen it before. as to the post by G8rboy- i think they would price a new 7 starting as cheap as possible. low to mid 20k for a stripped base model like the solstice. but upwards of 35k to 40k for a fully optioned one
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/PatheticLostOne/Mazda/2007RX7.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/PatheticLostOne/Mazda/2007RX7.jpg
DreRX8 05-31-2005, 03:20 PM That car is no FD--but I definately would buy it if it made it into production.
Gambit 05-31-2005, 03:27 PM I think i've seen that pic before....it's ok. It looks too much like the 3 and not enough like the 8. I'm not a big fan of the split front grille
abbid 05-31-2005, 03:31 PM http://www.rx7club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=114424
This ones better.....
Zoom, that's just a chop and it looks to be G35 based. It was posted here a several months ago in a similar thread to this but don't remember what publication. I believe it was a british publication or a web based auto rumor site though.
Japan8 05-31-2005, 11:04 PM Actually on Sunday I was checking out recent JDM new/future car mags. In the "scoop" section in one, they said that they have confirmed with Mazda that developement for the next RX-7 has officially begun. The exact specifications... s/c renesis, t/c renesis, RX-8/Miata based platform, body design, etc. haven't been decided. The production target looks like '07/'08. I'd expect that there would be a good chance for something in motorshows the latter half of next year.
devious12 05-31-2005, 11:13 PM If they do indeed bring it back it should look very close to the pic that abbid posted above, that car looks soooooo hot!
Japan8 05-31-2005, 11:42 PM Actually rendered drawings I've seen look more and more like a beefy RX-8 coupe. The hood/fenders is more masculine and the lines flow back into the doors to the rear of the car... the openings in the front larger (i.e. oil coolers, etc.) and the rear looks like it will be different. But that's just a mag rendered sketch or clean photochop... so who knows what it will really be like. ;)
Mzdarx8 05-31-2005, 11:57 PM I do not understand Mazda! Why produce the RX8 8 years later if it is not a
sports car. Seems the 8 is having fun in racing and winning some events!
Bringing back the 7 cause it is more of a sports car is wrong! Let it live in
history.
You need to move forward. Yes the 7 was bad ass. But the 8 his having it's glory
too. I love the rotary but did not have a chance to own a 7. I have driven a
friends 7 and it was fast. He likes my 8.
Maybe the 4 doors is the problem?
In two more years if the 7 is in production, bye that time i will have about 300-
350whp.
Japan8 06-01-2005, 01:19 AM The idea is 350Z/G35c my man... get both markets. Someone who wants 2+2 sports car and can carry their golf clubs and for someone who wants a balls to the wall sports car (350Z, S2000, etc.). Thus we have the RX-8 and the RX-7. Plus use your heads... the platform has already been remade into a 2 seater for the miata... dev costs spent and will definitely recoupe... some costs were already spread on the 8 as well. SO now coming to the 7.... hard top miata with a unique hot body, 19" rims, and a FI Renesis.... or a larger displacement Renesis. Done... low dev costs and how many people are going to turn this car down? how many are holding out for the next 7 instead of getting an 8? How many 8 owners are ready to trade their 8 in on a 7 when it comes out? There you go... Mazda/Ford ain't dumb.
Mzdarx8 06-01-2005, 02:32 AM Yes they are dumb! I will not trade my 8 for a miata- 7 or so for any reason!
The aftermarket has alot to say too. You put a Greddy turbo on a 8 and it
will run with a FD7 all day. Just ask some expert's
The RX7 will not return as far as i know!!
Japan8 06-01-2005, 11:14 AM Yeah yeah... and put on the GReddy single turbo kit on the 7 and it will kill the turbo 8. Port the 7 on top of that and there's nothing to talk about. It's like running an 8 against an STi (even with turbo).
Who said it would look or feel anything like a miata? Do some learning before you make dumb comments. Using the platform as the base for the 7 and just dropping the Renesis in a hardtop Miata are two entirely different things. I said the 8 platform has been REENGINEERED for a 2 seater sports car already. :rolleyes:
Mazda doesn't care if you don't want one. There are plenty of other people who do.
DreRX8 06-01-2005, 11:21 AM Yeah the FD is nearly STI and EVO MR level stock--all you'd need on an FD is a downpipe, exhaust, intake, and boost controller--you are very low 13s and high 12s with that type of setup.
crossbow 06-01-2005, 11:51 AM it will totally devalue and conflict with the RX-8.. it makes NO SUCH ECONOMICAL SENSE!!!!"
It also doesn't make economic sense to refresh the mazda6 twice in two years, but mazda's doing that anyway. Minor aesthetic refresh in 06, major overhaul refresh in 07.
And remember...
mazdaspeed = time to move on to a new style/chassis. Kinda of a last "huzzah!" of an outgoing platform.
Mazdaspeed Protege comes out...bye protege's, hello Mazda3
Mazdaspeed Miata comes out, bye old platform, hello new MX-5 chassis.
Mazdaspeed 6 comes out, bye old sporty mid-sized, hello --deleted--
zoom44 06-01-2005, 12:16 PM I do not understand Mazda! Why produce the RX8 8 years later
what do you mean 8 years later. you must think 7 production stopped 8 years before teh 8 was starting production. you are wrong. the last rx7 was produced just a few months before they started production of the 8 on the same production line.
The aftermarket has alot to say too. You put a Greddy turbo on a 8 and it will run with a FD7 all day. Just ask some expert's
i did and all my experts say you are right when comparing against an fd not beat it but run with it yes. now a new 2seat rotary coupe called a rx7 or rx9 or Mazdaspeed RX8 coupe limited will kick the 8s ass out of the box. and dont give me any of that "well if i mod my 8then it will be better" crap. stock for stock or mod for mod.
The RX7 will not return as far as i know!!
how far is that? not nearly as far as you think
zoom44 06-01-2005, 12:18 PM what are you talking about- like they would go and supersize the car or something after just a couple of years. that new guy in charge of "americanizing" the cars at MNAO have an itch for something Millenia sized?
djgiron 06-01-2005, 12:32 PM I think it would be in Mazda's best interest to build a new 7. It would be a flagship car for them, like the Viper, or Vette is for those companies. Look at how hot the Elise is right now, selling like crazy! An FE (which is what it would be) has the potential to out class an Elise stock for stock (more power, 2600lbs, and you know Mazda can tune a suspension better than anyone) and with a few mods should be able to run with the Vette and Viper (Just like the FD back in its day) Nissan is bringing over the Skyline from what I am reading, I am sure Toyota is building a Supra like car in the near future also. Yep fella's, with the STi, Evo here, it is the return of the Japanese muscle cars once again! Forced Induction, the replacement for displacement!
zoom44 06-01-2005, 12:38 PM try 2400 lbs initial target
JanSolo 06-01-2005, 12:50 PM I read this over on Motor Trend's web site (http://motortrend.com/future/spied/112_2007fvf/index8.html). Not much info obviously.
2007 Mazda RX-7 : On the drawing board is a shortened, lighter coupe boasting 280-330 hp.
Thetitanium8 06-01-2005, 01:21 PM I read this over on Motor Trend's web site (http://motortrend.com/future/spied/112_2007fvf/index8.html). Not much info obviously.
2007 Mazda RX-7 : On the drawing board is a shortened, lighter coupe boasting 280-330 hp.
I would take that power. Where do I sign up :D
DreRX8 06-01-2005, 01:27 PM a 330HP lighter weight rotary would be an absolute beast. It would essentially be a more civilized more powerful Elise.
crossbow 06-01-2005, 01:45 PM that new guy in charge of "americanizing" the cars
:mad:
Red Devil 06-01-2005, 02:47 PM I think the RX-8 fills its pricepoint very well, and is very light for a four seat vehicle. Weighs less than a 350Z, just needs a bit more power and a stiffer suspension - Mazdaspeed. If the next RX-7 is coming, I'd like to see Mazda really flex their rotary muscles with it and outclass most of the competition like what the FD did. And if that means having it priced like that of a new Vette or Elise, than so be it. A halo car like the NSX.
Mzdarx8 06-01-2005, 10:37 PM what do you mean 8 years later. you must think 7 production stopped 8 years before teh 8 was starting production. you are wrong. the last rx7 was produced just a few months before they started production of the 8 on the same production line.
i did and all my experts say you are right when comparing against an fd not beat it but run with it yes. now a new 2seat rotary coupe called a rx7 or rx9 or Mazdaspeed RX8 coupe limited will kick the 8s ass out of the box. and dont give me any of that "well if i mod my 8then it will be better" crap. stock for stock or mod for mod.
how far is that? not nearly as far as you think
The last model of the 7 for sale was 1995 in the US. Yes they continued production but not in the US. How can you compare a turboed 7 to a na 8 without modding the 8 to be fair? Yes we have to mod our 8's cause mazda won't. So the new engine in the 7 will be a renesis or a 13b?
Rotarian_SC 06-01-2005, 11:04 PM Go with Zoom44 on this, he knows what he's talking about :)
Mzdarx8 06-01-2005, 11:11 PM Yeah yeah... and put on the GReddy single turbo kit on the 7 and it will kill the turbo 8. Port the 7 on top of that and there's nothing to talk about. It's like running an 8 against an STi (even with turbo).
Who said it would look or feel anything like a miata? Do some learning before you make dumb comments. Using the platform as the base for the 7 and just dropping the Renesis in a hardtop Miata are two entirely different things. I said the 8 platform has been REENGINEERED for a 2 seater sports car already. :rolleyes:
Mazda doesn't care if you don't want one. There are plenty of other people who do.
I bought an 8 cause of the rotary. I love the technology behind it. Are we all just going to wait and hope a 7 is released some day? It's not cause i don't want one!
There is not one produced yet!
Let's see some pics of your 7 or 8! :eek:
Zoom49 06-02-2005, 01:00 AM I would love to see a new RX7, as I feel that a top of the line sports car will only
help Mazda as a Brand. My hopes were dashed however when they announced the name of the new Mazda Crossport. I hope I'm wrong. :(
Razz1 06-02-2005, 02:05 AM The seven is dead get over it. Even a smart 7 owner will tell you the 8 is better in handling.
Just and some power and viola.........
Ah, you don't need a fast car on the track to be fast. Just have to know how to drive.
Razz1 06-02-2005, 02:09 AM I read this over on Motor Trend's web site (http://motortrend.com/future/spied/112_2007fvf/index8.html). Not much info obviously.
2007 Mazda RX-7 : On the drawing board is a shortened, lighter coupe boasting 280-330 hp.
Drawing board is one thing. Besides it's just someone who put a lable on it. A former RX 7 want a bee.
We already have a RX 8 with 280 to 330 HP. Just look in the Mazda show room!
The white beautiful RX 8.
Stop crying in your milk guys........
Rotary Rasp 06-02-2005, 02:31 AM ^ 9 out of 10 of your posts are negative. ^
Japan8 06-02-2005, 06:08 AM I bought an 8 cause of the rotary. I love the technology behind it. Are we all just going to wait and hope a 7 is released some day? It's not cause i don't want one!
There is not one produced yet!
Let's see some pics of your 7 or 8! :eek:
I wouldn't wait and I wouldn't buy one if it was out. As much as I loved early 7's and especially the FD (a high school friend got a brand new one when they first came out... so yes I am talking about 1993)... I personally like having back seats. One reason why I'd never own a Z. But that's my taste...
As far as the future goes... just like another post said... it's on the drawing board. not a done deal yet. But at the same time... all the pieces are right there for Mazda... it's won't take much to make a great car.
Engine wise... it has to be some version of the Renesis. It is due to the side-port exhaust that they could eliminate overlap and get the car to pass stricter emissions standards. So any future 7 will have it's engine based on it... maybe larger displacement... maybe FI... who knows...maybe both. :D
DARKMAZ8 06-02-2005, 11:13 AM To be honest, Why would mazda wait so long to unveil a new 7?
I for one think that the 8 fits the bill quite nicely and a mazdaspeed 8 will definately raise the 7 enthusiast eyebrows. Let the 7 be and move on. I will bet that a new rotary coupe( if it happens) will be called the rx9.
If mazda does intend to bring back the 7 it will have to be:
1) Turbo
2) Looks that will be equal or better than the FD
3) No power assisted options(ie. DSC, TC, ABS)
4) No airbags(other than driver)
DreRX8 06-02-2005, 11:15 AM You're joking right?
DARKMAZ8 06-02-2005, 11:19 AM You're joking right?
The fd 7 was a pure sports car. Remember, If they bring the 7 back, It will have to be for the true sprorts car enthusiast.
DreRX8 06-02-2005, 11:27 AM Even the FD had dual airbags (94+). A new 7 would only need the rotary engine, lightweight, and 2 seats to be true to its heritage. While a turbo would be nice--its not a necessity, remember the first 7s were N/A. The DCS, TCS, and ABS should all be optional. I believe that a base 7 would be very cost effective if it used a 6-port renesis as is wih a lighter weight.
Airbags are a necessity. The car won't sell unless it's not only fun to drive but safe to drive. Mazda would seriously be laughed at if it didn't have at least dual airbags.
I see no reason ABS shouldnt be standard either.
DSC/TCS should definitely be either optional or disable-able.
DARKMAZ8 06-02-2005, 11:43 AM ^^^^^Dre
If it's n/a = rx9
If it's FI = rx7
We already have an N/A 2+2(4 door)
To give the rotary sufficient Torque to compete. It NEEDS FI. Sure the 1st and 2nd gen 7 were N/A. Why do you think they discontinued the N/A in '93? Mazda wanted to take the 7 to supercar status. Even if(and I mean IF) mazda brings a 2400lb N/A 7. It will be a step back for the 7. IMO, they would call it the 9.
spork 06-02-2005, 11:44 AM I agree. The 7 is about the rotary and performance (the 2 seater thing is part of the performance dealio).
but i think they need to be able to get the rx-7 to out perform or at the very least perform at STi/Evo level before releasing it. i don't think it's good enough to just out do the G35/350Z/S2K. The RX-8 is close enough to that.
DreRX8 06-02-2005, 11:52 AM ^^^^^Dre
If it's n/a = rx9
If it's FI = rx7
We already have an N/A 2+2(4 door)
To give the rotary sufficient Torque to compete. It NEEDS FI. Sure the 1st and 2nd gen 7 were N/A. Why do you think they discontinued the N/A in '93? Mazda wanted to take the 7 to supercar status. Even if(and I mean IF) mazda brings a 2400lb N/A 7. It will be a step back for the 7. IMO, they would call it the 9.
I agree--but my guess would be that Mazda would keep up the RX7 nomenclature due to name recognition regardless of N/A or FI. Me personally--if they can provide it with a Renesis that is 280-330HP I don't care if its boosted or not--it would easily be a car worthy of being called an FD successor. If Mazda also developed an SMG option they would further increase sales--and have an ace in the marketing hole on the competing sports cars.
DARKMAZ8 06-02-2005, 12:03 PM Yes, the 7 name is legendary. Mazda can't squeeze anymore power out of the renesis. I think it would be cheaper for them to develop a FI system then building a new motor. Plus, gas milage would suffer more with higher displacement.
The anticipation is definately getting the better of us all. DAMN you Mazda!!!!!
Mzdarx8 06-02-2005, 10:37 PM Enough said, let's end this post with our fingers crossed!
TheColonel 06-03-2005, 01:30 AM Ok, let me just tell you now. There is no RX-7, but there will be a new rotary coupe.. They killed the number 7 with the poor sales of the last one and so Mazda's marketing firm has determined that "RX-7" is not a viable name. In order to name this new coupe, the marketing executive decided it should represent a step back to rotary heritage as well as a signal that Mazda is moving into the future. The step back was easy, why not name it the RX-6? It clearly shows a link to the pre-RX-7 rotary heritage, as 6 more certainly is before 7. The effort to signify the forward movement of Mazda rotary technology was more tricky. At first, they were dumbfounded, as RX-8 is already taken. However, after careful consideration, the number 9 was found to be a good choice. "The consumer will see 9 to mean the new coupe will have twice the technological evolution normally seen from one generation to the next, since 9 is not just 1 but actually 2 numbers above 7" one top brass Mazda executive explained. Fusing these two numbers together, they created the prefect blend of heritage and advancement, the RX-69. One member of the press asked "Don't you think that number is, well, a bit sexually suggestive?". Mazda replied "Well, "sexy" wasn't what we were going for, but, yes, I'd say it is a great looking car", to which the reporter muttered "Umm... never mind... forget it...".
In addition, Mazda has decided that why stop at making an ultimate sports car. Why not just make the ultimate car, period? To accomplish this the new RX-69 will be the most versatile car ever manufactured on the planet. Among the countless available choices will be a full DVD, movie, navigation and video game console, soft top and hard top convertibles, automatic sliding rear doors, optional 3rd row seating, an extended flatbed pickup model with available tow package, a bullet proof armored model with optional roof mounted TOW missile launcher, refrigerated/heated beverage holders, ejector seats, integrated "Phaser XVII" anti radar equipment which actually uses phase disruptor cannons to vaporize potential police vehicles that may be sitting in a speed trap, gold plated exterior body panels with a carved solid diamond Mazda emblem, Io digital cable and Tivo, and an analog clock, because they look so classy in the Infiniti's. Engine options, will include but are not limited to a 5.1L DOHC Inline-7, 18.5L Quad-turbo W-16, 650cc 1R rotary engine, 8L single Turbo diesel and a 6.5hp Honda lawnmower engine for the economy model.
So as you can see, there's a lot to look forward to. All this is true, because I said it and I have a high school diploma. My mom also says I'm real honest.
devious12 06-03-2005, 01:57 AM How long did it take you to think that up and lemme get some of what your smoking! :D
TheColonel 06-03-2005, 02:17 AM Lol, smoking nothing and didn't drinking anything tonight. It was purely a moment of inspiration and it poured out as fast as I could type it. About 8 minutes... :)
I like this. I'm not ussually creative. This is getting it's own thread in the lounge... <Pride> (Though I should probably only feel shame...)
bulletproof21 06-03-2005, 09:00 AM You should feel proud. That was hilarious. It even sounds believable for the first few lines, lol. Very funny.
crimson-rain 06-03-2005, 09:17 AM I don't think the RX-7 is coming back. I do think that a MS RX-8 is coming even though I kind of hate that it is coming.
Why???? Because I just got my RX-8 and I'm still paying on it and will be for some years. Now what I hope happens is Mazda releases the MS 8 with the option to get the parts for anyones current 8 to turn it into an MS 8.
JEEZ MAZDA, I ALREADY HAVE THE PLATFORM!!! I JUST NEED THE BLOWER!!!!!!!!!!
shelleys_man_06 06-09-2005, 05:14 AM I just wanted to write in here to increase my post number. This thread is a bunch of newbie bulls**t.
Anyway, the new RX-7 will be made of used syringes, have a body made of foreskin, and will run on your sense of self-satisfaction.
zoom44 06-09-2005, 11:47 AM really? so you think what i wrote in this thread is newbie bullshit also? i thought you had more faith in me :)
rotary crazy 06-09-2005, 02:09 PM I think mazda will release a coupe 2800 pounds , 210hp 4port 13b renesis 5speed trans for 20,000+/-, the 6port renesis and 6 speed and the price goes to 25,000 depending on options.
The RX-8 will get a hp jump fron a larger displacement engine 14a or 15a renesis.
GotBass 06-10-2005, 01:59 AM I just wanted to write in here to increase my post number. This thread is a bunch of newbie bulls**t.
Anyway, the new RX-7 will be made of used syringes, have a body made of foreskin, and will run on your sense of self-satisfaction.
Word.
But honestly, Ford is going to send over the GT platform and Mazda is going to drop in a Quad Turbo 26B Renesis 4 rotor.
David_M 06-10-2005, 07:30 PM For Sale ( in approximately two years ): low milage, winning blue RX8 W/ aftermarket wheels.
C'mon Mazda. I'm waiting.
RX8 XTC 06-14-2005, 11:24 PM hello all i Heard from a Reliable sources that the 7 is On the works.
it will be Coming in 2 Years 2 door and Convertible And the engine is going to be the RENSIS :D Turbo.
I do believe my friend who told me all this because every thing i asked him he was right about and didn't lie, any ways for anyone that don't believe this well nothing we can do about it but sooner or later Pix are gona be floating on the Internet so all we can do is wait :)
hello all i Heard from a Reliable sources that the 7 is On the works.
it will be Coming in 2 Years 2 door and Convertible And the engine is going to be the RENSIS :D Turbo.
I do believe my friend who told me all this because every thing i asked him he was right about and didn't lie, any ways for anyone that don't believe this well nothing we can do about it but sooner or later Pix are gona be floating on the Internet so all we can do is wait :)
I'll wait until I hear it from mazda before I buy into this.
I wouldn't doubt that the renesis design could and probably should be used for the next 7, but i doubt it'll be the same engine as we see in the 8. The ports need to be cleaned up and maybe the displacement increased to 1.5L or something.
AbusiveWombat 06-15-2005, 02:40 PM Word.
But honestly, Ford is going to send over the GT platform and Mazda is going to drop in a Quad Turbo 26B Renesis 4 rotor.
No way, I heard from an inside source that it will be powered by a supercharged magneto-electro-dynamic turbine (reported to be capable of 500hp, 28mpg city, and 44mpg highway). Weight should come in just above the Ariel Atom at around 1106 lbs. Most of this weight loss is due to the extensive use of carbon fiber, and titanium inpregnated with helium (0 weight material). The car is reported to able to pull 2g's on the skidpad due to the patented use of port gravity thrust. Best of all is all this will be right around $33k. You can believe me or call BS but this source was right on about the RX8...10years before conception.
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