my dealer dosent havemy vin # but he has my order number can i find out where mt car is with the order number or do i need the vin number.

since your dealer doesn't have a vin yet he and i can both tell you where your car is or rather isn't. it isn't anywhere as it doesn't exist yet. ask him when was the last time he pulled or polled (i don't know which is the correct word). i talked to a dealer in washington today who thought he did not have vin's for any if his cars yet but he hadn't pulled the info since last week. when he did it while i was on the phone one of his pre-orders popped up a vin and showed build of last week meaning it is probably on one of the boats that shipped at the end of the week. but if your dealer updated his list and it still does not show the vin your car is still just a dream for now. like mine:(

edit: had a thought. at least the engine is probably built already and the rest of the parts. just not assembled yet;)