Just a general question, I have seen WRX, G35, EV08, and some 350z, and they come with Brembo brakes. We pay about the same price for the rx-8 and we get cheap ass brakes that the housing for the rotor rusts after the first rain fall. Surely, Mazda did not spend it either on really good leather seats, they actually suck compared to the G35 for about the same price range.

Really what did they spend in manufacturing besides the engine, that they could not afford to give us all least with the "GT" model some decent brakes.

Seats: are moderate to cheap leather
Navigation: Basically crappy
Stereo: Basic
Sound System: Bose crappy but not surprising after the 300zx bose sucked also.
Sunroof: You can actually see where the inner lining lid is stappled, no cover!
Seats: A heat warmer that BAreeeeeeely heats up the seat, and no seat cooler!?
Buttons: Buttons that break if you use them.
NO Auto Day Time Running Running Light
NO Defog for mirrors
NO Memory function to powerseat
If they put those last three in I would understand about the brakes but come on.

End of my early morning rant after seeing all these cars with brembo last night and compared to my rusty brakes. :p

A seats only Car to have real italian leather. "except for the super cars"
B If you wanted navigation why didnt u buy a lexus?
c If you wanted a great sound system why didnt you buy home theatre?
d Sunroof my is fine and dandy, I think you should watch the road more than the sky?
e SEats heat my fat ass just fine. If you wanted warm seats why didnt you buy cloth. A SEAT COOLER!@#$ did you want a luxury sedan or a damn sports car?
f What buttons broke for you maybe your just not smart enough to buy a car your happy with?
g NO AUTO DAY RUNNING LIGHTS. OH NO, You might have to turn them on if you want them, Jeeeeez thats a lot of effort turning that 1 little knob, oh wait, yours must be broken sorry.
h no defog mirros dont we have heated mirrors?
No memory FUntion power seat.... WHY DIDNT YOU JUST BUY A LINCOLN TOWN CAR!!!! ARGHHHHHHHHH

i NO name brand brakes. But i wanted to pay a extra 400 dollars for a name to be engraved in my calipers. oh no im sorry YOUR A DUMBY FOR BUYING THIS SPORTS CAR if your this unhappy.

Im magix puma and i approve this message.

Check the stats on braking power of the cars you mentioned, the RX-8 doesn't underperform. If you think that brand name is all that matters, maybe this isn't the right car for you to begin with. I personally have never considered buying ANY Mazda, ever. It wasn't until I took the RX-8 out for a test drive to see what the fuss was about a "rotary" that I got hooked.

Why did you buy this 'crappy' car in the first place?

We HAVE side mirror defog. Read your owner's manual.

Our leather seats are superior to the G35's. The G35's only SEEM to be higher quality when in fact they are SHITTY and wear out like you wouldn't believe. They appear to be supple but they're cheap leather with an inferior coating.

Magix Puma And The Forum Members Pwns U Nub!!!!!!

Hey thanks for the flaming, that is not what I was looking for. I dont care about the brand on them. I guess what I am saying they rust!! And that really bothers be, I have never seen Brembos rust. Geez even on older BMWs with non-flashy type rotors, they dont rust.
I am trying to justify why at the same price range as something like a G35 little things that would of rounded out the 8 as really great, not saying that is not great. A better non rust braking housing was made.

Anyways Magixpuma if you don't have anything constructive to say, take your thumb and stick in your rectum.

Side mirror defog? really, let me guess Candian 8 right? Usa here so we dont get that option.



LoL pwNed, right..... I don't understaned all that leet haxxor razor scooter lingo son.

No, US model. Trust me, read your manual. Lots of people think we don't have them. I was confused in the beginning as well.

Are you serious we have them, wtf! I swear I read that manual and the button was missing in my car. As well with the auto washing headlights, I looked at the picture and we dont have that either on the car, its just a blank spot with a lid cover on it.

Let's face it, Mazda cut some corners to provide us with the 8 at its price...no question. But who GaS? It's a superb car for the money and sure, it's got rusty rotors and we have to deal with that, but if you want fit and trim go buy a Lexus...else accept the 8 for what it is and enjoy it, bugs and all. The threads are great...idle noise, clutch problems, oil debates, ABS "clunk", etc. If you want to spend supreme dollars then buy a Boxter and it will probably fulfill yer needs, but it will cost a hell of a lot more. As for the 350Z vs. 8 debate, drive 'em both and decide..they are both not "perfect" cars.

If its so crappy, then the price I pay you for it should be low. How much?

as an aside, my rotors aren't rusty. Maybe they fixed that for 05?
Heated mirrrors on the GT pkg. To turn em on, you must turn on the rear window defroster (OM, pg 5-54)

I did test drive the 350, rx8, sti, evo8, tt, and some other cars, the 8 was the best for the price range. I am just surprised how it starts to fall apart so fast. I guess I got a bad production of the car. My nav has never worked right, my driver side seat looks like wrinkled beef jerky at the bottom arse area, my defrost button cracked, my a/c button fell off, my rotor housings are rusty, constant low oil light no matter how much oil, car has many hard starts, and I just don't see having all these little problems within the 5 months of ownership.

Are all you guys who are flamming me retarded because your responses are.

Look in your owner's manual on page 3-27. My GT model has the side mirror defroster. If you have a GT, then you have it too. I don't know about non-GT models. We don't have a separate button; that's what confuses EVERYONE in the beginning, including me. On page 3-27, you'll see that the side mirror defroster is turned on automatically when you turn on the rear window defroster.

guys, drop the flaming. Next person who resorts to namecalling gets a warning. If you don't agree with the original poster, just say so and back up your argument- don't act like an ass about it.

Hmmm that sounds like my Navigator I used to have, but I started suspecting my car did not have it since the fog never cleared away. Hmm kinda makes me wonder if the damn dealer didn't just slap on some areo kit and put in a nav and pass it off as a GT model, how can I make sure I have the GT? If I don't have the GT I will make them buy back this damn car.

...the side mirror defroster. ...I don't know about non-GT models. .

only GT

I did test drive the 350, rx8, sti, evo8, tt, and some other cars, the 8 was the best for the price range. I am just surprised how it starts to fall apart so fast. I guess I got a bad production of the car. My nav has never worked right, my driver side seat looks like wrinkled beef jerky at the bottom arse area, my defrost button cracked, my a/c button fell off, my rotor housings are rusty, constant low oil light no matter how much oil, car has many hard starts, and I just don't see having all these little problems within the 5 months of ownership.
Damn that's a drag dude...I for sure hear you. But your experience is also in the minority....just check these threads. I'm sure you've had your 8 checked and re-checked, but sometimes we just get loaded with an "off" car. Doesn't mean it's the standard. Again, it's value for money with the 8, it's quite a bit cheaper than the previous RX-7 and even that car had issues. If you can, offload your current 8 and don't buy another one...get something that you'd feel more confident about and drive it for a while. Then, after a while, and after you've been reading these threads to feel some comfort, get an 8 again to share the joy.

Is this for all GT models? I looked up my VIN and I have an older production run of the 8, Nov 2003, with the old nav start screen as well. And it has had 2 recalls done on it from what I can see on the side of the doors.

... since the fog never cleared away..

mine takes a bit of time to fully clear.


... dealer didn't just slap on some areo kit and put in a nav and pass it off as a GT model...

from what I understand, the pop-up NAV and all the wiring associated with the console buttons have to be put on in line (Japan). I know this cuz I asked the dealer if he could put an OEM nav on a car he had on the lot.. "Not possible". He said some options are put on "in-port" ( when the car hits the US port) such as spoiler, 6 cd changer, appearance pkgs, but not NAV. "If it didn't have it leaving Japan, it wont have it", he said. No reason think he was jerking my chain.

LoL I can't see myself in an other car. :) The 350 and g35 have weird inside cabin space, and the rest are not to my liking. I wonder if these problems I have had can qualify under the california lemon law, that way I can get an 05 GT instead.

im not sorry for the flamin, look at what you typed seriously. and if you have a day off you can paint your calipers and rotars like i did. its fun and if not go to your dealer thell do it for free.

service bulletin 07-003/03 talks about broken switches.

http://www.finishlineperformance.com/rx8/docs/07-003.html

Really, I was just reading some other posts about navs and people have gotten a lower end model with the Nav but everything else basic. Such as cloth seats and no frills on the 8 besides the nav.

I agree, the brakes shouldn't rust. I don't particularly care if Brembo is the stock brake. How much does it add to the price to install brakes that don't rust?

magic puma go away..

I typed that pretty incoherantly I admit, but seriously go away.

My car is just as old as yours. I think you should try selling it on the market and buy a 2005, if you can't claim Lemon Law. That's what I would do.

quak_p
I don't know how much it would add to cost not too much I think. It was just that it seems that the plate that holds the rotor, somewhere on it has an uncovered area that did not get sprayed with paint so the rust just flows outward. :(

magic puma go away..

I typed that pretty incoherantly I admit, but seriously go away.
What is your problem, dude? All he said is paint your calipers. Relax.

...2 recalls...

Damper recall- VIN range *100053-*116133, Build dates- 4/10/03-8/29/03
Air Bag recall- VIN range *100053-*131563, Build dates- 4/10/03-1/24/04

for informational purposes only.

quck_p

Thats not all he said, he was slamming me in the earlier posts.

Has anyone tried getting this fixed under warranty? Seems to me this should be a warranty issue, just like fogged lights or cracked buttons, no?

Edit:
Oops, just did a search, and like everything else, this has been discussed (http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=42363&page=1&pp=15&highlight=rust+brakes). A prize to the man who starts a thread that has never been discussed!

Ah SHIT...give Equis a break dudes! He's only describing his frustration with a bad car, and you guys give him the throttle. Stand back a sec, what if it was your 8? Please don't flame and try to understand where he's coming from.

Really, I was just reading some other posts about navs and people have gotten a lower end model with the Nav but everything else basic. Such as cloth seats and no frills on the 8 besides the nav.

NAV option is not exclusive to GT pkg. Can get it with any pkg, though since it a high end option, not many Sport or Touring pkgs had NAV. Mainly installed on GT pkgs.

Another option........find a new service dept. that knows the 8.

Some of those things have a TSB on them (switches). Do you have the newest Flash? If you complain about slow starts in cold weather they may replace your battery with a 750 cranking amp instead of the 400 stock one.

My service dept has a template made up and will touch up around the rotors if you ask (nicely).

Enjoy the car.

Ah SHIT...give Equis a break dudes! He's only describing his frustration with a bad car, and you guys give him the throttle. Stand back a sec, what if it was your 8? Please don't flame and try to understand where he's coming from.


Yes yes, lol. I should of stepped backed and edited what I wrote orginally isntead of pressing post. I guess when you write like a little kid, these are the kind of responses one will tend to get back. I have been up all night typing so I took it upon myself to freewrite my frustrations. heh. :eek:

Well my car is not too bad, just the little things and the beef jerky seats gets me .
I still think it is an amazing car for being a 1.3 liter engine! Only like .2 seconds slower than the major competetion which over powers by 60hp and more torque.

Another option........find a new service dept. that knows the 8.

Some of those things have a TSB on them (switches). Do you have the newest Flash? If you complain about slow starts in cold weather they may replace your battery with a 750 cranking amp instead of the 400 stock one.

My service dept has a template made up and will touch up around the rotors if you ask (nicely).

Enjoy the car.

Hmmm new higher amp battery, that would fix the problem, the strange this, that I get hard start while the car is warm! Such as when I drive it for about an hour to school then leave it come back 20 minutes to move it to all all day spot on campus and it does not start, and I get the oh so annoying check engine light. :(

Well my car is not too bad, just the little things and the beef jerky seats gets me . I still think it is an amazing car for being a 1.3 liter engine! Only like .2 seconds slower than the major competetion which over powers by 60hp and more torque.
And the truth comes out :) Glad to read that mate...however, you're not alone in the "little things" as the thread says.

...the beef jerky seats gets me...

so if your ever stranded in the Andes you can eat your seats! MMM, beef jerky.. :)


Just joking around here.

lol

seriously dude, check out all those service bulletins. I think some are applying to your car.

http://www.finishlineperformance.com/rx8/docs/index.html

so if your ever stranded in the Andes you can eat your seats! MMM, beef jerky.. :)


Just joking around here.
Damn, I was just about to do the Homer Simpson drool and say: "Mmmm, beef jerky..." Ah, well, what can I say, wit such as ours is rare like fine wine.

Can someone explain something to me? I've never owned a sports car before, but is it considered normal/acceptable for the brakes to rust?
No, not normal, but in the case of the 8 with M-flash, seems normal and not a major concern. Would however, like others who know better to explain.

Equis,

I have a September 03 production 8. I've had a some issues I worked through. I had the Nav replaced under warranty, I painted the calipers and rotors due to the rust issue, the head lights were replaced due to fogging and probably 4 or 5 other issues in addition to the TSBs. But, after 21k the car is not falling apart. Anyone buying a new model should realize there may be issues. You just have to stay with it and not give up till they are resolved. Regarding the leather, do you treat them regularly? While mine have some "character" lines in them they still look almost new and certainly not like a piece of jerky. Remember in cosmetic maintenance the results are a function of effort.

Great post Dog...I use Leather in a Bottle for the interior and it's superb, can't say enough about the stuff and how it preserves/treats leather.

... Leather in a Bottle...


Another Zaino product? :) Just sent away for all their stuff, but not that, damn.

Another Zaino product? :) Just sent away for all their stuff, but not that, damn.
Yes, we have another convert. There goes 6 hours of your life! And that's just the first time. Better get those towels.

Since I have no life, this is a non-issue.

Another Zaino product? :) Just sent away for all their stuff, but not that, damn.
Valpac...welcome back to show and shine mate! Guess we should relegate this thread back to that column...happy to oblige, can get your car gleaming.

I couldn't attest to the quality of the leather seats, as I only have the touring package. But, rumour has it that these seats are made with real Italian leather, if that means anything. I don't know about the seat heaters, but seat coolers are probably heavy, rare, and expensive if they are to be driven by some sort of Peltier-effect cooling system or, even worse, liquid coolant.

Rust will appear on brake rotors simply because they are made of stuff like cast iron. It's simply not possible to prevent rust unless you live in an area with zero humidity and no rain. Perhaps if they were made of aluminum or carbon fiber you could prevent this. Brembos are no different. A friend of mine has 16" Brembo rotors on his E46 M3, and they turn vomit brown a few minutes after every car wash. The calipers and hub don't rust, as they are normally painted. The braking performance of the stock Mazda system is still comparable if not superior to those vehicles in which Brembos were installed at the factory.

The navigation software can probably be upgraded if you buy a new DVD from NavTech. I have the 7/03 version of the software, and it works just fine. What other features would you be looking for in order for it to be not so "crappy"?

The Bose audio system in the car is only the amplifier and speakers - the head unit is still a factory Mazda stereo (FMS - Ford/Mazda/Sanyo) and yes, it's a tad shabby. Perhaps if you put in a different head unit then the whole package might sound a lot better.

Sunroof: ??? What's wrong with the sunroof? The inner lining can be closed when the sunroof is closed. At that point, the sunroof IS the cover.

The self-destructing buttons in the dash are covered under warranty:
http://www.finishlineperformance.com/rx8/docs/07-003.html

Canadian vehicles came with daytime running lights which turn on when the ignition key is on and hand brake is off.

Side mirrors on the Grand Touring model should be defog-capable, and turn on whenever you activate the rear window defroster.



Really what did they spend in manufacturing besides the engine, that they could not afford to give us all least with the "GT" model some decent brakes.

Seats: are moderate to cheap leather
Navigation: Basically crappy
Stereo: Basic
Sound System: Bose crappy but not surprising after the 300zx bose sucked also.
Sunroof: You can actually see where the inner lining lid is stappled, no cover!
Seats: A heat warmer that BAreeeeeeely heats up the seat, and no seat cooler!?
Buttons: Buttons that break if you use them.
NO Auto Day Time Running Running Light
NO Defog for mirrors
NO Memory function to powerseat
If they put those last three in I would understand about the brakes but come on.

End of my early morning rant after seeing all these cars with brembo last night and compared to my rusty brakes. :p

Just a general question, I have seen WRX, G35, EV08, and some 350z, and they come with Brembo brakes. We pay about the same price for the rx-8 and we get cheap ass brakes that the housing for the rotor rusts after the first rain fall. Surely, Mazda did not spend it either on really good leather seats, they actually suck compared to the G35 for about the same price range.

Really what did they spend in manufacturing besides the engine, that they could not afford to give us all least with the "GT" model some decent brakes.

Seats: are moderate to cheap leather
Navigation: Basically crappy
Stereo: Basic
Sound System: Bose crappy but not surprising after the 300zx bose sucked also.
Sunroof: You can actually see where the inner lining lid is stappled, no cover!
Seats: A heat warmer that BAreeeeeeely heats up the seat, and no seat cooler!?
Buttons: Buttons that break if you use them.
NO Auto Day Time Running Running Light
NO Defog for mirrors
NO Memory function to powerseat
If they put those last three in I would understand about the brakes but come on.

End of my early morning rant after seeing all these cars with brembo last night and compared to my rusty brakes. :p


Hey, just sell your car and we will all be happier. :mad:


as for the brakes, our car out brakes many Porsches. If you don't like the rust, spend $15 on come capiler paint and paint the hub. The leather seats seem fine to me...all my switches work perfectly.....no defog for mirrors? Nice to see that you have a firm grasp of what a sports car is. Sounds to me like you would be happier driving some bid SUV. Hey go buy a Chevy Trailblazer, they have the warmest seat heaters I've ever sat on. MY 8 has daytime running lights. (manditory in Canada)..not that it should be that big a deal.

Instead of complaining about all the lux features you think our car is lacking, how about concentrate on why most people buy the car...the engine, the handling, the style...did I mention the handling?

Hey, just sell your car and we will all be happier. :mad:

Instead of complaining about all the lux features you think our car is lacking, how about concentrate on why most people buy the car...the engine, the handling, the style...did I mention the handling?
Did I mention my previous post? What if your car sucked...and what would you do, post your grievances? Do you think you'll get flamed for that? Duh. Too many happy 8 owners. Instead of condeming others for posting their bad experience with the 8, why not embrace their experience and learn from it should you have a simiar experience down the road...cripes.

Did I mention my previous post? What if your car sucked...and what would you do, post your grievances? Do you think you'll get flamed for that? Duh. Too many happy 8 owners. Instead of condeming others for posting their bad experience with the 8, why not embrace their experience and learn from it should you have a simiar experience down the road...cripes.


i had my engine replaced and i didn't bitch like that!

I posted that it had died...what the problem ended up being and then what good service I got from my dealer. What I didn't do was to pick the car apart and complain about every flaw. Maybe if he had done it over a couple of posts it might not have had the same impact. Maybe if he hadn't started comparing the RX to all the other ususal suspects myself and others might not have gotten our back hair up.

...too me it just sounded like complaining.

Oh..and the title of the tread was probably what pissed people off.

i had my engine replaced and i didn't bitch like that!

I posted that it had died...what the problem ended up being and then what good service I got from my dealer. What I didn't do was to pick the car apart and complain about every flaw. Maybe if he had done it over a couple of posts it might not have had the same impact. Maybe if he hadn't started comparing the RX to all the other ususal suspects myself and others might not have gotten our back hair up.

...too me it just sounded like complaining.
Understood. But rotten, that's exactly what I'm saying...some of the 8's are dead when you get 'em. Fair? not! But no different than buying GM, Mitsu or Ford shit. Your "usual suspects" statement is right on! Many cars mentioned in this thread have issues...would make a great poll, but it's not an 8 vs. them issue.

NO Auto Day Time Running Running Light
NO Defog for mirrors
NO Memory function to powerseat
If they put those last three in I would understand about the brakes but come on.

You actually have some of the same grievances I have mentioned before (i.e., daytime running lamps, etc.) : http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?p=511244#post511244

I agree with most people here that the brakes peform well (even the TSB ones), even if they don't look good at all compared to Brembos. As far as the rusty rotors are concerned, you can get your dealer to paint them for free. My dealer painted mine and they look great.

I do agree with you that the sound system is pretty lacking. I had a Chevy Blazer that sounded much better than my 8's. But you can do a search and see that this grievance has been discussed before.

Also consider that adding more options = adding more weight which, unfortunately, would make the car even slower.

Understood. But rotten, that's exactly what I'm saying...some of the 8's are dead when you get 'em. Fair? not! But no different than buying GM, Mitsu or Ford shit. Your "usual suspects" statement is right on! Many cars mentioned in this thread have issues...would make a great poll, but it's not an 8 vs. them issue.


Right...... its not so much what he said but how he said it.

Its like saying to a women, "You look fat" instead of "You look Phat". :p

Ya, ok, I can buy that, but remember he's pissed cause of the problems and rarely will people ever dictate their issues "nicely" when it comes to spending hard money which seems like a loss. Man, do I get pissed at the stock market :p


I stay away from the stock market other than my retirement plan....I don't like dealing with something I can't control. I put my money inot my own businesses.

Why do we have piss brand brakes on the 8?

So you can give in and buy Mazda Speed ones.

magic puma go away..

Put him in your 'ignore list'. I did (along with a few others) and now can browse the forums with less stress.

man ,got alot of great mileage out of this thread--kept me laughing for 20 minutes!

I couldn't attest to the quality of the leather seats, as I only have the touring package. But, rumour has it that these seats are made with real Italian leather, if that means anything.

I think they are Corinthian Leather
:D

Equis, i had the oil light problem as well. I took it into mazda with the printed TSB in my hand, and they replaced my oil pan.

Here are some TSb's you should print out and take to your dealer:

Temperature Control and/or Fan Control Dial Break of Come Off Issued 11/03/03 (http://www.finishlineperformance.com/rx8/docs/07-003.html)

Snapping Noise When Turning at Low Speeds - Issued 2/23/04 (http://www.finishlineperformance.com/rx8/docs/02-002-04.html)

Low Oil Level Oil Light Comes On When Level Is Not Low Revised 04/14/04 (http://www.finishlineperformance.com/rx8/docs/01_027_03.htm)

Engine No Start/Lack of Power - PCM Reflash - Revised 11/01/04 (http://www.finishlineperformance.com/rx8/docs/01-022-04.htm)

Squeal Noise From Front Brakes During Braking - Revised 11/08/04 (http://www.finishlineperformance.com/rx8/docs/04-006.html)

I had most of the same issues, build date 08/2003. Hope you get things worked out.

The core problem seems to be the dealer..or the lack of visits addressing these issues.

Nice work Abbid..that took some time.

Are all you guys who are flamming me retarded because your responses are.

Okay, go spend $6 on a can of high temp ceramic paint and you can paint your rotor hubs and calipers. Rust problem solved. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

I did test drive the 350, rx8, sti, evo8, tt, and some other cars, the 8 was the best for the price range. I am just surprised how it starts to fall apart so fast. I guess I got a bad production of the car. My nav has never worked right, my driver side seat looks like wrinkled beef jerky at the bottom arse area, my defrost button cracked, my a/c button fell off, my rotor housings are rusty, constant low oil light no matter how much oil, car has many hard starts, and I just don't see having all these little problems within the 5 months of ownership.

Did you buy this car new? I don't think I would go any longer without talking very seriously to my dealer. With Navi costing around $2K, I know I'd be in their face until it was right. I understand your concern but I would do something about it if I were you. I'd like to here a good positive response later that all's well. :)

How do we know he has addressed any issues in the TSB thread with dealer..

Boy, that's a mighty fine "whine" you've got there Equus ...

Sorry you're dissatisfied with your car. I love mine. I don't need to see "Brembo" through the wheels to enjoy my car.

Sometimes you really have to go.
Sometimes you really have to STOP!

Piss(tm) Brand Brakes
Accept No Substitutes

i don't mind piss brand brakes.

if mazda used piss poor brand brakes, then i'd complain.

LoL, :)

I have gone to the dealer 3 times, they gave me an excuse about how their prvious staff was not doing something right and was laid off. I bought the car as the showroom car, I paid brand new price for it, then they called me back into sign up the forms again to attest that in fact it was a used model because of the milage, I asked for a discount in price for the trouble but they said no, I was pretty much stuck since I already had paid and all.

Appearently getting in their face does not work as I have written to Mazda USA, and they just noted in their "files" that the dealer sucks. I also written to the BBB, and talked to the Service manager at the dealership in detail of the problems, in all this span of 5 months with the mentioned problems all they managed to do was install a fuse box cover that the car did not come with.

So please don't ever ever ever ever buy or service your car at Mazda Newark, aka Magnnesuns Fremont Ford. They can not do anything right, they keep my car like 5 days over from promised delivery date for basically doing NOTHING.

Okay, go spend $6 on a can of high temp ceramic paint and you can paint your rotor hubs and calipers. Rust problem solved. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

That's what i did and it looks fine now. Some people just can't be pleased. Bitch, Bitch, Bitch.

I don't know but you have only complained about this car. You sound like a troll but I hope I'm wrong. I have no complaints or problems, just like most of us on here.

In defense of Equis, I would have to agree with him on a couple of those points, but at the same time, nobody likes a complainer. There, am I sitting on the fence, or what??!!?? Actually, the 8 is cheaper than the g35/350z in our market. So I would have to agree that even if they had to charge me an extra $500 to give me some gee-whiz parts straight from factory, Mazda would still be under the competition's price points. But then again, they probably wanted to leave room for MS upgrades.

The brakes look like parts bin brakes. I think I read somewhere that they were used on some Volvos as well. Can anyone verify? It doesn't diminsh the performance of the system, but it would be nice not to have rust nor so much brake dust.

Stereo is adequate for it's intended purpose. You're supposed to be enjoying the engine sounds...... :)

No need for seat memory, just don't let anyone else drive your car. Now you have the perfect excuse... :)

Is it true that some dealers will paint the brakes for free??

As good as you guys think the Brembos are on other cars, they are not without their flaws. First of all, the Brembos on the Evo feel quite numb and dust heavily. Hop on the track with them and they will fade after a lap or two. They look nice because they are red and say Brembo, but until I swapped out to Endless pads on my old Evo, I did not know what good braking was. Having test driven the RX8 a few times now (and lusting after the car more each time), I can say that the braking on the RX8 is more than adequate. Naturally, the first thing I'd do is swap out lines, fluid and pads, but really - you guys have some good stopping power.

Bottom line, my brakes make my car stop very well....as for the rust look, I spent $15 on some caliper paint...problem solved.

The brakes on this car are amazing. You would have to spend a LOT of money on Brembo or AP setups to get better braking performance than you already do.

A professional racing instructor drove my car a few laps and said they were the best brakes he had come across on an unmodified car, up to and including Porsches.

If you like paying money for brands, well, good luck to you - I'd rather have the performance over the name.

I do think you got a bad example of the car though by the sound of it. :( But don't diss the brakes, they're fantastic.

Incidentally better pedal feel was one of the reasons I bought the 8 over the Z.

I am suprised someone would complain about the brakes. I live in SF and do not have any issues whatsoever. I find them to be wonderful. You want Brembos because of rust? If it is a paint issue, then take them off and paint them.

First off, the title of this thread probably got the 8 worshippers' feathers a little ruffled. The original post just seemed to be buyer's remorse... the list was something that may have been valid, but were you not aware of these things before you plunked down 30K (give or take a few K)???? Then after only 5 replies... Equis comes back with...

Anyways Magixpuma if you don't have anything constructive to say, take your thumb and stick in your rectum.

LMFAO!!!

Then this post

I did test drive the 350, rx8, sti, evo8, tt, and some other cars, the 8 was the best for the price range. I am just surprised how it starts to fall apart so fast. I guess I got a bad production of the car. My nav has never worked right, my driver side seat looks like wrinkled beef jerky at the bottom arse area, my defrost button cracked, my a/c button fell off, my rotor housings are rusty, constant low oil light no matter how much oil, car has many hard starts, and I just don't see having all these little problems within the 5 months of ownership.

At this point it sounds like TROLL talk... as we all know (and Equis should also, having as many post as s/he does), that many of these complaints are covered by TSBs.

Granted that in that short time of ownership, these are alot of issues to have to deal with, but this is the first year of the 8's existence. It sounds more like an issue with crappy service at a crappy dealership than the car itself. If i had the same issues with my 8 as Equis has had in the first 5 months of ownership, I wouldn't be happy at all... but I would not have accepted it, and brought the car right back to the dealership BEFORE I would start a thread on an 8's forum.

Hope all works out for you... be careful where you put your thumb.

man ,got alot of great mileage out of this thread--kept me laughing for 20 minutes!

and the beat goes on............lol

See this is why I bought nothing more than the Sport package. Go with simplicity and there are less parts or gadgets to break. :)

See this is why I bought nothing more than the Sport package. Go with simplicity and there are less parts or gadgets to break. :)


:eek:

You mean the sport package version of the RX8 doesn't have brakes????

How do you stop???? Fred Flintstone style???? :rolleyes:


J/K

wow, stuff like this makes me really appreciate my 8 even more, I have not had any of these issues, just normal stuff like oil changes etc. my seats get plenty warm, sunroof is fine, it's crazy how many people I see who do nothing but complain about their ride, makes me wonder if there is anything out there that would make them happy.

:eek:

You mean the sport package version of the RX8 doesn't have brakes????

How do you stop???? Fred Flintstone style???? :rolleyes:


J/K


I mean the little stuff like Nav and such. All I have to worry about is the big stuff. But now that you mention it maybe that's why my tires have gone to crap...lack of brakes! :)

lol, you got a mazda