It's somewhat difficult to get the right info while I'm overseas, but these are the things I do know re: manifold:

1) Trust Japan sent the J-Spec kit to GReddy USA for fitment on the US-Spec '8 a couple months back
2) Everything fit except the manifold. GReddy made measurements and sent the specs back to Japan for fabrication.
3) Once completed, the re-fabbed manifold was sent back to the US for fitment and installed right before SEMA.

Is this kit available for the public to see anywhere for those of us located in so cali? Anything at all that may be coming up in the future? Or do we all have to wait for the unveiling?

I know other companies have have an open door policy and you can drop by to see the kit in action.. this might not be the case though with such a big company.

I am very pleased with how clean and impressive that RX-8 looks, however, the hp output is not up to par with the look and idea.

greddy's kits are often a bit conservative in nature due to their reputation. better to have a bunch of 'quick' customers than ones with blown motors. rest assured that this kit will be as bolt on as possible when it hits the shelves. honestly, i'm a little afraid of 300whp (SFR/SSR kit) with this drivetrain.

you can always up the boost or upgrade the turbo components though :)

Any more news Shawrf?

(May the shawrftz be with you) :p

lol you said shawrftz......ah that slays me:) i love that movie.

Just saw on Greddy Japan's site they've officially released the Greddy RX-8 turbo kit in Japan -

http://www.trust-power.com/06new/2600_2699/2647_turbokit.html

Looks like it comes with an intercooler and everything. Price is 390,000 yen, which is $3700 or so US. I would guess a US street price of $3000-3500.

Dale

it's a JDM kit been out for a while I believe.

Product code 11540560
Trade name GReddy turbo kit RX-8 (SE3P) MT T618Z ACT P380
Specifications E-manage and intercooler attaching
Full kit (genuine catalyst exclusive use).
Turbine: T618Z 10cm2 P380 ､ EX. マニ: Cast iron make ､ muffler adapter: Cast iron make
Intercooler: Type 31C ､ piping: Aluminum
Fuel control: E-manage ､ エアインクス AY-MB ､in addition short part set

Standard retail price ¥409,500 (price including tax) ¥390,000 (tax removal price)

lol you said shawrftz......ah that slays me:) i love that movie.

Yeah.. it must not amuse him as much as it does you and I :)

He hasnt posted anything in a while.

http://www.trust-power.com/mazda/rx8/greddy/turbo_kit.html

so sad tha tno one else is amused by that movie...i guess the world is really ending. lol oh well least i will go laughing.;)

i wonder how long it'll take greddy to release this kit for north america if it is out in japan? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

What you mean "no one" I love that movie. That's the power I call upon in time of need. ;)

Just saw on Greddy Japan's site they've officially released the Greddy RX-8 turbo kit in Japan -

http://www.trust-power.com/06new/2600_2699/2647_turbokit.html

Looks like it comes with an intercooler and everything. Price is 390,000 yen, which is $3700 or so US. I would guess a US street price of $3000-3500.

DaleTranslated: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trust-power.com%2Fmazda%2Frx8%2Fgreddy%2Fturbo_kit.html&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&c2coff=1&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

but it didn't really tell me much :(

For $3000, I'd buy that in a second. How much do install fees typically run?

..They've gone plaid!

Anyway, I hope to hear some install results soon, since everyones been waiting for FI. Someone better get this done soon! :p At $3,500 that's a bargain :eek:

..They've gone plaid!

Anyway, I hope to hear some install results soon, since everyones been waiting for FI. Someone better get this done soon! :p At $3,500 that's a bargain :eek:
Megamaid's gone from suck to blow!

even furthur afield

What the hell am I looking at? When does this happen in the
movie?
Now. You're looking at now, sir. Everything that happens now, is happening now.
What happened to then?
We passed then?
When?
Just now. We're at now, now.
Go back to then.
When?
Now.
Now?
Now.
I can't.
Why?
We missed it.
When?
Just now.
When will then be now?

hahahaha.... that made me laugh out loud.. I gotta watch that movie again this week :)

OK.. back to your regularly scheduled programming.

Yeah.. it must not amuse him as much as it does you and I :)

He hasnt posted anything in a while.

1. Sad as it sounds, I've been too busy with a PCS to Ft. Irwin to keep tabs on my car.
2. The last update from GReddy was that the tuning was complete, but the car was doing funny things on their 2-wheel dyno; it was adjusting for only two spinning wheels. The solution was to look for a 4-wheel dyno to get an accurate hp/tq measurement.
3. My car will be in the GReddy booth at GT Live! 18-19 Dec. You can do a Q&A with the folks there and then. I'll only be there on Sat.
4. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=your+schwartz+is+as+big+as+mine S-C-H-W-A-R-T-Z get the shtick right!

Rob

buckle up ser,we going too go light speed , :mad: buckle this

1. Sad as it sounds, I've been too busy with a PCS to Ft. Irwin to keep tabs on my car.
2. The last update from GReddy was that the tuning was complete, but the car was doing funny things on their 2-wheel dyno; it was adjusting for only two spinning wheels. The solution was to look for a 4-wheel dyno to get an accurate hp/tq measurement.
3. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=your+schwartz+is+bigger+than+mine S-C-H-W-A-R-T-Z If you're gonna mock my screenname, at least get the shtick right!

Rob

Of course I know it's schwartz.. but your name is so rediculously close I thought it was funnier to put your name in place of it :)

(May the shawrftz be with you)

get it now :p

OK.. since everyone is continuing this...

I'll throw out Virgin Alarm and yogurt... haha....

Hey Shawrf.. Do you know if Greddy will be out there on the 17th setting up? I'll be there racing with Speed Ventures... :)

Cant wait.... Should be able to check out some cool cars too as they are setting up.

hehehe, I'm a mog. half man half dog...i'm my own best friend

Today I got mail from GReddy that told that they have their turbo-kit ready for the 8. Kit includes GReddy T618Z turbine, exhaust manifold, muffler adaptor, intercooler, piping, fuel management (e-manage), Airinx filter and various other bits that are required for installation. I don't have the exact power figures for that, but I assume that it will be something nice :)

Sweet :) I love that... Hopefully they will post more info on their website soon.

Wonder if I can save some dough and opt for no eManage. I kinda like my CZ install instead.

Wonder if I can save some dough and opt for no eManage. I kinda like my CZ install instead.


Yeah the CZ is an e-manage. I was hoping this aswell.

how much will this kit be ??

I've heard about $4000

Is this going to be CARB legal ?

lol i emailed greddy and they said the turbo for the rx8 will be out by feb/march 05.

BS.. I am starting to feel that nobody wants to be first to market haha.. Everyone keeps either pushing back release dates or missing them all together.. What else is new for this kit now. Join the club.

BS.. I am starting to feel that nobody wants to be first to market haha.. Everyone keeps either pushing back release dates or missing them all together.. .

I know what you mean. I'm starting to wonder what the hell is going on.

"The tuning for the RX8 is pretty much done and we have the first set of turbo kits on their way next month. We took the car to a dyno jet for TURBO mag and a stock car usually makes about 169whp; your car made 235whp." - GReddy

nice results. baseline of 169 is about the average. That's what I was at too. 66 more HP to the wheels is good times!

Will your turbo set up be available in Australia ?

cheers
michael

Guys,
It seems that Greddy is releasing a limited number of the USA spec turbo kits in the next few days, and RN.COM has a special Greddy dealer connection for the kit. If your are serious and interested in buying the kit, please let us know and we'll do our best to get you hooked-up. We might also be installing the kit on the RN.COM RX-8 for testing some time down the line, but for now if you want to get a kit, from a reputable Rotary tuner, drop me a line at:

berny@rotarynews.com



Notes on the final USA kit.

Final #'s look like +50hp @ 5-6psi (can be tuned to make even more power)

Kit Includes:
-T618Z 10cm 2 P380 Turbine
-Custom exhaust manifold and muffler adaptor
-Intercooler and intercooler piping
-E-Manage piggyback fuel controller
-Airinx intake filter
-Clamps, hoses, hardware and everything else necessary for installation

This kit WILL VOID your OEM warranty and is NOT CARB legal. It will be sold as an off-road/racing product only.


Price: shoot me an e-mail

If you are ready to buy and have money burning a hole in your pocket, let me know.

Cheers,

-Bern
http://rotarynews.com

What additional costs are associated with a turbo kit? Is it a DIY project, or one that needs a shop to instal. If a shop needs to do it, how many hours does it take to install?

Some members have stated a 25-35 HP increase with the CZ unit at a total cost of the unit plus cost of canscan and tuning .

Why would you pay US $4000 for the possible extra 15-25 HP for a turbo unit with only 6psi , .

As Jeff (Mazda maniac )has shown that you would need to upgrade the fuel injectors to handle any higher boost .

cheers
michael

Lock, I don't think the 35 hp number is to the wheels. I'd guess most will see around 20-30 hp at the crank.

The number listed by Greddy shows a 66 hp boost to the wheels, which is quite significant.

Lock, I don't think the 35 hp number is to the wheels. I'd guess most will see around 20-30 hp at the crank.

The number listed by Greddy shows a 66 hp boost to the wheels, which is quite significant.
66HP at the wheels is good if its kosher ?

Getting extra power will still need the added fuel injectors .

cheers
michael

Some members have stated a 25-35 HP increase with the CZ unit at a total cost of the unit plus cost of canscan and tuning .

Why would you pay US $4000 for the possible extra 15-25 HP for a turbo unit with only 6psi , .

As Jeff (Mazda maniac )has shown that you would need to upgrade the fuel injectors to handle any higher boost .

cheers
michael

I'm being conservative, because I think the realistic power increase is about 50+ hp with the Greddy turbo kit, and not the claimed 60+ hp. But the difference is a much better, flatter power range than an N/A can provided. This mostly due to the increased TQ across the RPM range. A much nicer driving experience.

And yes I'm sure that elevated boost levels will require greater fueling capacity.

Cheers,

-Bern

I am pretty much sold on getting a turbo/supercharger kit for my RX-8. However, I have 2 questions in regard to this:

1. How can I find out who/where to go to install? For something of this nature, I would want someone experienced and knowledgable so I don't blow my engine. I'm in the NorCal/Stockton/Sacramento area.

2. This and the SSR kit are not CARB legal. For those of us who will eventually need to pass smog, how do we go about circumventing this process by getting our cars exempted?

If I can figure out these 2 things (and which kit...) I'm on my way to the bank!

So, no BOV in the kit now?

2. This and the SSR kit are not CARB legal. For those of us who will eventually need to pass smog, how do we go about circumventing this process by getting our cars exempted?

I think the Greddy kit is in the process of obtaining CARB certification. It's just the pre-release kits that don't have it. That's my understanding anyway.

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

you said something about how it could be tuned to a greater hp. approx how much higher can you tune it?

i'd say til the engine blows:p hehehe

you said something about how it could be tuned to a greater hp. approx how much higher can you tune it?

Speculating here, until I get more inforamtion, but I'm estimating 10+ more horses with a really good tune... all things being the same, and definitely more with an upgraded fuel delivery system. But we have to remember this system has been designed for a low boost application. This system can make 300+ but other things in the system start break-down. (clutches, tranny, etc..)

-Bern

bern,

tried to email you, but your address keeps getting kicked back to me. Can you PM me with the details?

Sorry guys... the RN.COM e-mail has a heavy SPAM filter... just hit me at my regular e-mail adee:

brhslm@earthlink.net

for those that have thanks... I'll get back to you ASAP.


ScudRunner, send me an e-mail.


Cheers,

-Bern

Is there any chance for those of us in so cali to check out the kit to help sway us? :)

Namely.. myself.. I live in Diamond Bar...

Sweeeeeet!!

So I went to my friendly neighborhood GReddy authorized tuner to talk about the designing and dyno-tuning of some custom E-Manage maps to work in a particular fashion with my nitrous setup, and guess what I left the shop with? A verbal meeting of the minds to sell me the GReddy turbo kit at his cost with me installing all of the parts myself and getting the base map set working. Then, we will dyno and road tune a decent 6 lb. boost level. After that the nitrous goes back on the car for another 55 h.p. just for fun. This is not a "sponsorship" deal, just an opportunity for me to get a great price on some cool stuff and we both get to play with turbo and nitrous boosts. This will commence somewhere around the third week of January and the kit will include all of the stuff that MazdaManiac mentioned in his previous post. Is it my lucky year, or what?

Charles

Awesome Charles, let us know how this works out. Details would be appreciated. I am still contemplating this vs. the Blitz SC (when/if) it comes out, or the SFR/SSR unit.

I guess we can swap E-Manage maps now!http://www.mazdamaniac.com/images/smiles/headbang.gif

dang Charles you lucky lucky guy....now all i have to do is kill you and steal your identity;) muahahahahaha.....well maybe not it sounded good in my mind:p

man... some people have all the luck. Sounds sweet... DEFINITELY post pics, etc. as your project takes shape Charles...

Army, you don't want to steal my identity because there always comes the bad with the good!

I do tend to wonder how the E-Man will deal/does deal with the matter of open-loop vs. closed-loop operation of the factory ECU. How does all that work, M.M.? I'll still pursue the header idea for those not interested in a turbo set up even though my idea won't work well on a turbo install.

One thing I tend to like about the GReddy kit when compared to some of the ones we have seen, so far, is the placement of the turbo. I like it out of the way and less visible.

Of course, I'll keep all of you apprised of my experiences and results because I have a very hard time keeping my mouth shut. Now if we can get 400 h.p. or more........

Thanks for the kind words and support, everybody. Next stop, the Ultimate Street Car Challenge, 2005.

Charles

Charles

You are a charming rascal getting a turbo kit at wholesale and agreeing to tune the e-manage maps for them. :cool:

Love to get a copy of a properly tuned e-manage map for my car here in Australia .

cheers
michael

hehe can't wait for you to get it all working great Charles...helps out the rest of us;)

oh and if they have anymore turbo kits laying around...make sure they disappear for yours truly...hint hint, wink wink:D

Charles

You are a charming rascal getting a turbo kit at wholesale and agreeing to tune the e-manage maps for them. :cool:

Love to get a copy of a properly tuned e-manage map for my car here in Australia .

cheers
michaelThe CZ map that comes with a CZ unit is already properly tuned, the problem is, each car is different. So a perfectly tuned map for my car isn't going to work for yours. You can check the CZ map thread in the canzoomer forum if you want to download some maps we're sharing.

http://www.mazdatrix.com/8turbo.htm

dunno if anyone has seen this yet but mazdatrix has the greddy kit for sale...sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. price is $3,790.00. (am i allowed to post that...oh well to late)

Thanks for the info Army rx8, I do check their site every once in a while, but I had not seen that they had it for sell yet.

"As far as we know, this WILL void your factory drivetrain warranty"

I dunno maybe the dealership won't notice

yea i haven't looked at their site in a loooong time...but it was just updated on the 31st of dec...i think the last update they had was like july of 03. but i must say i like this update:D


lol i won't tell the dealership i have a turbo if you won't;)

lol i won't tell the dealership i have a turbo if you won't;)

LOL,......You gotta deal!!!!!!

In the interest of full disclosure, let me clarify something: My possible involvement in the GReddy turbo kit project is on a local level only and is not any meaningful map development on my part. The shop I would be working with is quite experienced in that area and are very well-connected with GReddy. My role would mostly be to offer up the first vehicle in the Detroit area for experimentation at the street level, as opposed to a controlled-environment with smart engineers doing the work. Additionally, if an idiot like myself is able to install the product at home with hand tools, the kit may work well for others, too.

One thing that bothers me is that the included intercooler seems a bit small for anything higher than 5-6 psi, especially when it is noted that it is a two-row design. Not much future potential, there. If that is the case, then for a $3,500 street price one would be much better off going with nitrous to get a 50+ h.p./torque boost at a much lower cost of around $650. That's why I originally chose nitrous. To do both turbo and nitrous would be nice(and maybe even noteworthy), but then I am on my way to a 100 h.p. nitrous shot anyway and that is achieveable with an E-Man and another pair of nozzle jets. On the other hand, I do like the hardware design and with so few parts the install would have to be a cinch for the truly ambitious among us.

If direct comparisons can be made then it can be said that a 5-6 psi boost along with the standard upgrades(cat removal and cat-back, pulleys, flywheel, etc.) will result in e.t.'s in the high 12's. Another 6 psi will place one in the high 11 second potential with good tires. If Greddy is getting 303 h.p. at the fly with this kit, then I have 25-30 h.p. hiding out in a set of drag radials. I guess the distinction boils down to the notion that a turbo is better for road/club racing and nitrous is better for straight-line/drag racing. I would point out that I think an RX-8 running mid 13's in N/A form has plenty of power for autocrossing/club racing.

This is why I am still hesitant to fully commit to such a project. That, and the Mazdatrix price makes that local offer seem not-so-splendid anymore. I was offered the package at only a few hundred less than what Mazdatrix are asking.

Charles

Army, thanks for the heads-up. That info/link changes the landscape a bit for me.

The most interesting thing about all of this is that the kit still doesn't show up on GReddy's website. Anyway, if only I hadn't just contracted to have my trunk fiberglassed in to make a kick ass stereo setup, I'd be all over this thing. Alas, it will have to wait until October or so.

Army, thanks for the heads-up. That info/link changes the landscape a bit for me.

no problem gald i could help. :D hehe and i would love to have a 13 sec car in n/a form. but alas i don't have nitrous oxid:( hehe but i am living vicariously through you...so i guess i do have nitrous oxid;) :p

With the stuff I have bolted on I am already running steady 13.7's on the stock wheels/tires and they have 30K miles on them. We don't need nitrous to get 13's. !2's are another chapter in the on-going saga.

I followed the link provided by Army and was looking at the exhaust manifold. Is it just me, or does GReddy block off/omit the factory air pump passages?

Charles

So, I'm guessing the BOV , turbo timer, and catchcan are all extra accessories. But what about the modified oil pan they made? I don't see that in the kit.

I was wondering about the oil pan myself. Also, I read originally that a Type RS BOV was part of the kit, but I don't see one. That's OK though, because if and when I get this I'll probably get an HKS SSQ BOV anyhow (prepping for more boost down the road).

my friend has the hks ssq bov and it sounds pretty funny...if he isn't at full boost and he lets off the accelerator it makes a hissing laugh sound like mutly from hanna barbara. lol.....who am i kidding...that sounds great too:D

as for the oil pan..i imagine it is in the kit just not pictured for some odd reason. I haven't contacted greddy or mazdatrix about the kit b/c it is probable a while until i can afford to get anythign like this:(

for real...it'd pretty cool to have a car that laughed at other people's rides

yes but his laughed really loud with his 30psi evo 8...haha that jerk and his low 11 sec times...ahh well :p

my car looks better than his car

Muttley laugh (http://www.80snostalgia.com/classictv/ddmuttley/sounds/muttley.wav)

^^^^HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA indeed your car does...as a matter of fact...so does mine:D..haha great find on the link to what the ssq bov sounds like...yep muttley is a dead ringer for it. LOL

army RX-8... hmm I wonder if that will be kosher ones the mods see it... they might edit that out. Oh well.

Charles... your thoughts about the turbo kits and mine are the same. See my comments with RG in the ptp turbo thread... :p

would what be kosher..hope i didn't say anything wrong:(

I followed the link provided by Army and was looking at the exhaust manifold. Is it just me, or does GReddy block off/omit the factory air pump passages?

Charles


hmmm you got a point it does look like the left that out. wonder if it'll effect it negativly in any way. or was that the air inlet so it could put more air into the exhaust when you start up (like 30 sec's) so help with emmisions...or did i get confused. i think i started a thread about this a while ago

The ports that I am looking for are only for the air pump that turns on at start-up. MazdaManiac thinks it won't hurt to block them off if the pump is removed. For those concerned with CEL's, though...

I am glad that you guys pointed out the "missing" parts. I will stop by the shop today and make sure those are included. If not, that would be another reason to be reluctant to install a turbo kit. Early on, like last year, SSR noted some problems with the factory composite intake manifold having problems holding boost. Since then, I haven't heard much on the matter. Neither have I heard much about the three-stage intake under boost. Let me ask this question; which idea has more potential to generate curiosity? An RX-8 with a turbo kit and a small amount of nitrous, or one with the same level of power achieved with just nitrous and a really good tuning job(and bolt-on mods)?

Charles

Turbo+NOS or Serious Mods+NOS???That's the question!!! :D
Witn NOS when the bottles are empty you won't have the extra horsepower...One good race and you can empty you can run out of NOS in less than 2minutes.An it is not very good for a car..Especially Rotor-Motors...Serious Damage could be made...But with very good engineers and off course money there wouldn't be any problems....I can trust you on that one ;) :cool:

I have a question Though...Greddy says that in the Greddy Turbo Rx8 they have placed and Sp2 exhaust...As far as i know turbo cars need biggere diameter pipes etc...SP2 is something arround 60mm??How's that??Have they modified the exhaust or something?Cause with small diameters the guses won't flow as good as with bigger diametres???

Just asking though cause i like the greddy turbo but i am going for sp2soon and i don't want to buy a part now and in a few months sell it...

would what be kosher..hope i didn't say anything wrong:(

Listing the price for the Greddy Kit from the currently available sources.

Army, you don't want to steal my identity because there always comes the bad with the good!

I do tend to wonder how the E-Man will deal/does deal with the matter of open-loop vs. closed-loop operation of the factory ECU. How does all that work, M.M.? I'll still pursue the header idea for those not interested in a turbo set up even though my idea won't work well on a turbo install.

One thing I tend to like about the GReddy kit when compared to some of the ones we have seen, so far, is the placement of the turbo. I like it out of the way and less visible.

Of course, I'll keep all of you apprised of my experiences and results because I have a very hard time keeping my mouth shut. Now if we can get 400 h.p. or more........

Thanks for the kind words and support, everybody. Next stop, the Ultimate Street Car Challenge, 2005.

Charles
USCC, huh? That is a tough one.

You shouldn't need any closed loop tuning, even with boost. You want to stay out of boost if you are below 70% throttle, anyway.http://www.mazdamaniac.com/images/smiles/icon_shrug.gif

my friend has the hks ssq bov and it sounds pretty funny...if he isn't at full boost and he lets off the accelerator it makes a hissing laugh sound like mutly from hanna barbara. lol.....who am i kidding...that sounds great too
That is because his spring is adjusted too tight and the turbo is surging. :(
Bad, but is sounds cool. I put the SSQ BOV in my RX-8 turbo system also.

The ports that I am looking for are only for the air pump that turns on at start-up. MazdaManiac thinks it won't hurt to block them off if the pump is removed. For those concerned with CEL's, though...
I checked - it does trigger a CEL. The ECU figures out that it isn't there after two drive cycles by monitoring A/F. Oh well. Mine is still hooked up but, by looking at that picture of the Greddy kit, I can tell they elimnate it. Maybe the US version is different?

Let me ask this question; which idea has more potential to generate curiosity? An RX-8 with a turbo kit and a small amount of nitrous, or one with the same level of power achieved with just nitrous and a really good tuning job(and bolt-on mods)?

Charles
The turbo will, always. It is because people are visually stimulated. Bright, shiny aluminum...http://www.mazdamaniac.com/images/smiles/nana.gif

Let me ask this question; which idea has more potential to generate curiosity? An RX-8 with a turbo kit and a small amount of nitrous, or one with the same level of power achieved with just nitrous and a really good tuning job(and bolt-on mods)?

Charles

I would prefer the combination of a TC and NO2, so your first choice. Why? Because the 8 can handle more power during freeway and everyday driving and it would be nice with an extra 50-60hp during those normal conditions. For those kind of normal conditions you very rarely need more than 300hp. For those who want even more power for events and so on, there´s the NO2 option. It gives the boost when you WANT it, and only then. Lets be honest, no one needs more than 300hp for they everyday driving. If it´s not everyday driving it´s normally some kind of racing or events. Even if someone would like to use the extra power of NO2 during tuesday on their way to work, it´s till there ready to use.
Just my 2 cents...

Regarding the Greddy turbo kit. Since the kit is not CARB certified does that typically mean it never will be, or is it just a matter of the engineers fine tuning it so they could eventually release a certified kit.

I would have to agree with Petrus, the combination of TC and NO2 would be ideal....

Gotta agree with Petrus thinking... although the porting projects look good too... :D

Originally Posted by army_rx8
Let me ask this question; which idea has more potential to generate curiosity? An RX-8 with a turbo kit and a small amount of nitrous, or one with the same level of power achieved with just nitrous and a really good tuning job(and bolt-on mods)?

Charles

hehe why did you quote somethign that i said but i didn't say? I'm pretty sure that is Charles talking ther no me.....mostly b/c i don't sound as good when i type:( ah if only i had a nice way with words....but i think i'll pretend it was me that way i can feel better about myself:p

I would prefer the combination of a TC and NO2, so your first choice. Why? Because the 8 can handle more power during freeway and everyday driving and it would be nice with an extra 50-60hp during those normal conditions. For those kind of normal conditions you very rarely need more than 300hp. For those who want even more power for events and so on, there´s the NO2 option. It gives the boost when you WANT it, and only then. Lets be honest, no one needs more than 300hp for they everyday driving. If it´s not everyday driving it´s normally some kind of racing or events. Even if someone would like to use the extra power of NO2 during tuesday on their way to work, it´s till there ready to use.
Just my 2 cents...


hit the nail on the head:D

I agree with having both nitrous and turbo available for the reasons stated above and the idea that if I am autocrossing/club racing, they don't allow nitrous so the turbo is nice to have. Drag/street racing could stand to use the jolt from the nitrous. That is why I have decided to use both systems on my own car.

On the closed-loop inquiry, I just don't have the experience with the RX-8 ECU yet but I am learning, thanks to all of you, especially Jeff.

I tend to think that an RX-8 trying to enter the USCC will at least generate some curiosity from the editors of SpoComCar Mag, especially if it is turbo'd, nitrous'd, with a titanium under carriage, and other mods. I will say this much; I think the RX-8 can do well in most categories of the competition with the right mods, but that's another thread topic isn't it?

With a G-Tech indicated 225 whp I am running 13.7's. At this level, each additional 50 hp is worth another whole second, plus or minus a tenth. So, at 280 whp, we should see 12.7-12.8 1/4 mile times. Another 20 h.p. could get us into the low 12's, especially with good tires. My times/h.p. were measured using the stock tires with 30K mile on them so good tires will make those numbers more realistic.

Charles

Not exactly the response I was looking for.. but a canned response none the less..


> Hey there, I heard that your kit is nearing it's
> production debut and I am curious if you have any dyno
> charts to go along with it. I know it's already
> available at some stores for pre-sales but I didnt see
> any info on your site yet.
>
> Thankx a lot for any information you have.
>
> David...
>
>
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Thanks for your interest in GReddy Products. We are proud to inform
you of
the release of our turbo kit for the six speed manual RX-8. The kit
will
have a base boost of about 6 PSI and have a horsepower gain of about 60
horsepower. The kit will include a T618Z turbo, Emanage, front mount
intercooler and all the piping and hardware needed to install the turbo
kit.
This kit also comes with a plug and play emanage to stock ECU wire
harness
so you do not need to solder and splice the stock ECU wires. Please
contact
your favorite Authorized GReddy Dealer for purchasing information.
Thanks
for choosing GReddy Products!

RX-8 6speed Turbo kit part number 11540050 MSRP $4195.00
--
GReddy Performance Products, Inc.
9 Vanderbilt
Irvine, CA 92618
www.greddy.com

That's like when you ask an 8-ball to complicated of a question:

Me - "When is my boss going to die?"
The Ball - "Yes"
Me - "No...when?"
The Ball - "No"
Me - "F-you 8-ball"
The Ball - "F-you back"

Sorry sometimes I start typing and don't know when to stop.

Aaaaanyways what about porting, a turbo and nos?? hehehe I'm actually waiting for the axial flow supercharger but it's hard trying to deny a bov..

may be old news to some but with all the other threads speculating about the release date, price and such i decided to contact them and get the info straight from the horses mouth!

here is what they said:

Thanks for your interest in GReddy Products. We are proud to inform you of the release of our turbo kit for the six speed manual RX-8. The kit will have a base boost of about 6 PSI and have a horsepower gain of about 60 horsepower. The kit will include a T618Z turbo, Emanage, front mount intercooler and all the piping and hardware needed to install the turbo kit. This kit also comes with a plug and play emanage to stock ECU wire harness so you do not need to solder and splice the stock ECU wires. Please contact your favorite Authorized GReddy Dealer for purchasing information. Thanks for choosing GReddy Products!

RX-8 6speed Turbo kit part number 11540050 MSRP $4195.00


hope this ends the speculation questions on the greddy turbo kit. I also asked about adding a high flow radiator to help keep the engine cooler with the added heat from the turbo in the engine bay and this was their reply:

As for the radiator, it is not really necessary to upgrade for street. If you use this vehicle for off road use or very hard driving and your water temp does rise a lot, it may be good to use a larger radiator, but for everyday driving it is not necessary.



-Aaron

...I think I just drooled all over my keyboard. :D Thanks for the info!

That is what I call good info right to the point. Thanks man..

well guys looks like i will see this in person soon :)
Jon (philodox)has order the turbo kit from mazdatrix and should get it next week.
i cant wait to hear it or see it in his car.
congrats Jon

You should read further down, the "Countdown" thread has details of a set that is on its way to Mr.'Philodox', bought from Mazdatrix. :D

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=49150

S

Yup, I bought my kit from Mazdatrix 2 days ago. According to UPS I'll have it on January 10th :)

^Envy you^

So Aaron when are you adding a turbo to your mod list? As for the larger radiator, for those of us in HOT climates, it wouldn't hurt. But hey that's opinion. I figured when I did a turbo a larger radiator was going in too.

Dave

I contacted Greddy about two months ago regarding the RX8 Turbo but they never sent me an email back.

aaron i merged your thread with this one. scroll back up to davefzr's post and you'll see he got a nearly identical reply from them also:)

i was hoping to leave it as its own thread so people wouldnt have to read through multiple threads and a bagillion posts

Have 2 Greddy turbo kits in stock and ready to ship.

Jason
www.rx8store.com

so, does it come with oil pan and BOV?

hopefully the oil pan, but not the BOV. there's better ones out there, and theyre not all that expensive of a part.

No oil pan, for sure. The kit says it includes a fitting to replace the drain plug? I dunno, philodox posted earlier that you had to weld something, but i don't find that in my copy of the instructions.....can't wait to get started

ok, pretty sure no welding involved. There is a hose barb that looks like it would thread into the oil pan drain bung. Also, i was kicking aroudn the idea of jet hot coating the exhast manifold and "downpipe". Anyone know if this woudl be beneficial? The turbo sits right on the exhaust manifold, so i can see how maybe the lower temp might help extend the life of the turbo. But then would the heat overpower the stuff in the exhaust downstream of that. Hmmm.....also, would there be any benefit to coating any of the piping? Thanks in advance to anyone who replies.

Did anyone notice in the instructions posted on a different thread it listed out the parts included.... and the oil pan is listed. Must have been a last minute deletion from the kit.

"29. Oil Pan with welded Oil Return Pipe"

hmmmmmm curious...welli'll just wait to get mine (well and money)..then hopfully it will be included..or at least streightened out:D

Did anyone notice in the instructions posted on a different thread it listed out the parts included.... and the oil pan is listed. Must have been a last minute deletion from the kit.

"29. Oil Pan with welded Oil Return Pipe"


I'm not positive the instructions I posted here (http://www.cox-internet.com/adrian-1/images/RX8/rx8%20greddy%20kit%20instruction.pdf) are for the US kit. I received them from philodox and i believe they were an english translation of the Japanese kit. But it does say near the bottom "As of 12/30/04 this kit is not a street legal kit." so I may be wrong.
We'l find out as soon as somebody receives the kit and compares the instructions.

I'm not positive the instructions I posted here (http://www.cox-internet.com/adrian-1/images/RX8/rx8%20greddy%20kit%20instruction.pdf) are for the US kit. I received them from philodox and i believe they were an english translation of the Japanese kit. But it does say near the bottom "As of 12/30/04 this kit is not a street legal kit." so I may be wrong.
We'l find out as soon as somebody receives the kit and compares the instructions.

I got the instructions from Mazdatrix, they got the translated instructions directly from Greddy. The instructions for the actual kit comes with Japanese instructions, that's what Mazdatrix told me. But yes, the instructions from Greddy and are what they will be including in future kits sold in the US.

At one point......before my 8, my Accord V6, and BMW M3, I had a '95 Honda Civic that I installed a Greddy Turbo kit, and front mount intercooler. It was a flawless setup. I never had a single problem from the kit. I put 105000 miles on that car and it only failed to start 1 time, but it was my fault, I had left the headlights on. I was so into that car, I actually named my dog Greddy. My parents actually still have the dog. Greddy turbo kits are a very good product. The first thing that went through my head when I pulled away from the dealership was about putting a turbo kit on. I'm glad Greddy is going to come through for me. Too bad I have a kid on the way and won't have the money for one anytime soon.

no worries, just name your boy Greddy or Turbo.

Greddy Jr. lol

no worries, just name your boy Greddy or Turbo.

Tell Greddy you'll do it for PR and they'll give you a free kit.