Ya so I have been looking frfantically for a green or black with Nav and GT only.I don't like the spoiler and 140 for a little chrome is ridiculous anad the other options, I can live without.

Anyways, a dealer near me has a Yellow one with GT, Nav, Accent and Spoiler. He said he would take off the price or the accents and spoiler if I was interrested for 500 over invoice - 2500 lease rebate. Two questions:

1. How's everyone like the yellow? Why did Mazda get rid of it for 05?

2. Is that a good price?

If its a '04 and the 05's are out, why would you buy it for $500 over invoice? I'm sure you could buy a new one for about that.

No that is not a good price for an 04. They are now selling under invoice. He's playing a numbers game on you. The yellow isn't selling too well is my guess why its dropped in 05 models. Keep plugging away at the dealer.Check out Edmunds.com and see what a comparable car is selling for in your area. They do a nice job with it. I got my 04 $400 over invoice but many others lately have been under invoice. The 05s are going about $500 over invoice. He tricked you by telling you he would eat the accents by moving up the price over invoice. Don't let the invoice value full you. That's not what the dealer paid for it same as we don't buy the car for the sticker price. The $2,500 lease rebate is true however. Keep in mind that a lease is like keeping a car in tip top shape. When you turn it in you need to put on new tires and not have any door dings on the car. Mazda gives you a little card picture thing of what an allowable tolerance for a ding is before you need to fix it. If you turn the car in without fixing the dings or has used worn tires on it, the dealer will charge you for those. 100% mark up too. Pure profit for the dealer.

Make the dealer find the color you want. Mine had to go out of state to get mine a month ago. If the dealer wants to deal only what is on his lot, I would go to another dealership. If you belong to a credit union you can use a car broker to find the car you want with those options. They all use a nation wide database that shows all the available cars.

Don't settle for something you dont really want. this will be your car for the next few years. If you want a specific color, package or whatever, do not let the salesmen force you into buying something else. the car you want is out there just keep looking.
If you are even a little bit unsure then that is not the car you are looking for.

BTW I do own a yellow, I ordered it 8 months before they were released, I would not trade the color or car for anything else. just my opinion, this is my 4th yellow vehicle. I am glad Mazda made yellow for 2004

1. How's everyone like the yellow? Why did Mazda get rid of it for 05?

2. Is that a good price? 1. It's a first-year-only colour, just like they did with the previous-generation RX-7. I love it, others love it, yet others hate it, and there are plenty of colour-discussions threads and polls, so let's not turn this into another opinion thread. There's only one opinion that matters - how do YOU like the yellow? Do you like it? Then consider the car. Do you NOT like it? Don't consider the car. Do you not *know* if you like it? Go to the dealer and stare at the car until you form an opinion. Why do you give a damn what people on this board think? We won't be paying for it or driving it (unless you want to donate it to me, tax-free, of course).

2. Seems to be an OK price if it were $500 *under* invoice, but if it's still around at the end of the month you'll likely be able to get an even better price since they'll be desperate to get rid of an '04 before the next fiscal period.

These are all good points, but don't forget to mention to the dealer that winter is coming, and unless you live where it doesn't snow, the RX-8 won't be selling at all when the white stuff is on the ground

Edmunds says people are paying almost 550 over invoice. Grr... I can't even go in there and throw that around to see.

Where do you live? The Edmunds thing doesn't really take region into account a whole lot. I.E. a RX-8 in Wisconsin in December isn't worth nearly as much as an RX-8 in Cali at the same time.

I live in Boston

Personally at this time of year, and where you live, I wouldn't pay over invoice for a car thats a year old. Have you checked into maybe getting one used that had some miles on it to give yourself a basis for comparing?

I found one for $56 below invoice. That was the first quote they gave me and I think maybe I can get them to go down a bit more.

I would hope so for a year old sports car with winter coming

1. It's a first-year-only colour, just like they did with the previous-generation RX-7. I love it, others love it, yet others hate it, and there are plenty of colour-discussions threads and polls, so let's not turn this into another opinion thread.


Not sure if I like it, however I am not asking for opinion. I am asking becuse I know they scrapped the color and was wondering if there were any discounts for the unpopular color. I like that it stands out.

Well, if there were 12 yellows on their lot and none of the other colors, then you would have an awesome shot at a great deal. I got a blue and am very happy with my color, but the yellow does look really great.

Yellow is a great color and I never tire of it, but it's not for everyone. Like others have said, you should get the color you want.

I believe Mazda had always planned yellow as a special first model year run color. They did exactly that before with the 3rd gen RX-7. And I believe yellow could only be had the first year of the original 1st gen RX-7 as well. If I recall correctly, yellow was only available on the Miata during '92 or '93 too. Mazda seems to have a thing about making yellow a special limited run color.

Unfortunately most of the dealers around here either have 2 or 3 on the lot with my config. or they are real pricks and ripoffs and have like 10 in my config. I'm not willing to deal with scammers for a better selection.

Ya, I've been staring at a picture of a yellow one... it kinda grows on you after a while.

Get the color you like -- unless they're offering you some amazing deal on another color (which this dealer most definitely is not). If you're willing to pay $50 over invoice for an 04, go to CarsDirect.com and they'll find exactly your color and options for invoice price.

Still working on it though. Using the color as a discount point. Got him down to 100 below invoice. I think I can get him to at least 3 below.

Way to go!

Dude lied to me. He's got a titty gray one too. Grounds for more discounts! Woohoo!

I told you that $500 above invoice was too much

Woohoo! I got the color I want for 1000 below invoice!

When do you pick it up?

It's 2 1/2 hours away so they are faxing me all the paperwork. I'm going tonight to get it if it all goes through! Black with Nav and GT! Can't wait!!!

I have a yellow RX-8 GT 6-speed and love it. I think the yellow shows off the lines of the car really well. But like others have said yellow isn't for everyone.

Sweet! Congratulations! :D

How f***ing ridiculous. I get there at like 7:30 tonight and they say "Why are you here so late? We can't do anything this late." They told me before I went that the car would be ready for me to sign and pick it up. This is BULLSHI*! I WANT MY CAR!

That sucks! I would talk to the sales manager and see if there is anything they can do for the inconvience.

D'oh! That really sucks, especially after you drove so far. I guess 7:30 doesn't give them enough time to try to sell you all the extras (extended warranties, undercoating, rustproofing, etc.). I spent at least an hour with the paperwork guy trying to sell me all sorts of stuff after I had already reached an agreement on price. You are going to be so happy when you finally have the car, hang in there!

I should make them pay for the gas I wasted going there. I drive a Mustang. You thought your RX-8's got bad mileage. I don't think I'll be doing business with this dealer anymore. They said they would bring the car to me if I decide to buy it. What, are they going to bring the finance manager with them to try to sell me the extras and sign the stuff? Plus, I don't want them driving my new baby 160 miles before I even drive it. They don't like break-in periods at dealerships. I won't even test drive the car I'll eventually buy. I ask to test drive thier demo. Yes, I'm that neurotic.

Funny story: They sent me an email and my filter threw it into the junk mail folder. Guess my computer knows these guys are scum too! lol

I don't think I'll be doing business with this dealer anymore. I won't even test drive the car I'll eventually buy. I ask to test drive thier demo.
I think that's a mistake. You're making a business decision based on ego and anger (albeit justified) and not what makes good financial sense. When I negotiate with someone who's getting on my nerves, I take a breath and remind myself what I'm trying to accomplish and I remind myself it only weakens my negotiating position to allow emotions to gain control over reason.

You found the car you want for the price you want to pay (and it's a good price). Finding the same car for the same price at another dealer is a lot more work than just going back to this dealer, however stupid they are, one more time to sign the papers.

Second, you should absolutely test drive the car you intend to buy because it could have a problem or quirk that's not apparent just from looking at it.

I'll consider it. In the meantime, there's another dealer nearby here who is claiming to be able to match the other one. I think I'll talk to them first.

I didn't think there would be any difference between the 2 cars, yet you are right. I never thought one may have a problem or may feel different cause it wasn't driven by 80 different people.

I'll consider it. In the meantime, there's another dealer nearby here who is claiming to be able to match the other one. I think I'll talk to them first.

I didn't think there would be any difference between the 2 cars, yet you are right. I never thought one may have a problem or may feel different cause it wasn't driven by 80 different people.
Well, that's different. If you have another dealer offering the same car for the same price, tell this dealer to F-themselves. But only after you sign the papers with the other dealer! Nothing worse than having to go back to someone you just told to F themself and asking if their offer is still good. :p

Test drive the car from the perspective of looking for problems with that particular car. Test all of the controls, shift through all the gears, inspect the body and rims for scratches, etc. This is your car, you're paying a lot of money for it, it better be right.

You do know that you can go out on mazdausa.com and check the inventory of every dealer near you. Or pick an area get the zip code and it will provide the dealers and then you can check their inventory :cool:

Well, I researched the Mazdausa.com inventories for various dealers within a 250 mile radius and found the color and equipment. Yes, yellow and then went to a dealer that would give me a good trade and deal and told them to get me the color and where it was located, not that they couldn't do that them selves. Heck they had to find an 04 mazda 3 in order to get the dealer to swap. Got the car for about $2000 under invoice about a month ago. They still made money because of the dealer incentives mazda was providing. Would guess you should be able to get down to $3000 below invoice now, if they really want to sell it :o

That's funny, cause MazdaUsa only searches 150 miles and only provides the 5 closest dealers. I've done my homework and the packaging I want is very rare. I've contacted almost 20 dealers within my area and beyond and they either don't have any color I want or are not willing to negotiate.

Thanks for the advice though...