although I dropped .3 seconds on my et and +10mph on my trap, I still can't get lower than a 15.1

1.1 RT
2.2 60'
6.4 330
9.8 @ 73 mph 1/8
12.7 1000'
15.1 @ 92 mph 1/4

I wasn't using the canzoomer, and I dont have any other mods. tires were at 31lbs and it was in the mid 80's. Other than the RT, where else can I improve my driving?

well your RT has nothing to do with your ET, looks like just faster cleaner shifts. You could improve your 60' but it doesn't seem like quicker 60' times = quicker ETs on the RX-8 like it does most cars. Some of the fastest times that have been run were done with a 60' similar to yours.

well, when you shift, rather than trying to get a smooth, clean shift, you could try just hammering it to the floor and powershifting through each shift. this isnt the best thing for the clutch or tranny, but it'll get you down the track faster

also, it seems that your car is fully loaded. the extra weight could be slowing down your car.

keep the gas nailed when shifting :rolleyes: bye bye tranny...

when are you shifting? 9,000 rpms really is equivalent to about 9600 rpms on the tach...

9500 on the tach

You should definately get there on a colder night. But, I know, it should not take a cold night to blast into 14s. I really don't know, other than you may need some tuning. I know I am in the "rich fuel" crew. Do you know if your MPG are crappy, or descent .

oh, i know im a rich rich man lol

Let me drive it...

do your magic on it, then you can drive it all you want ;)

Let me drive it...

He said he wanted 14s not a new tranny :p

I just ran a 16.8 @ 83 mph with several bolt-ons...... although I am automatic and fully loaded :) The sad part is I almost beat an RSX Type S but I redlighted. What happened to the good old days when there were a few slow cars at the track I could beat up? :(

I just ran a 16.8 @ 83 mph with several bolt-ons...... although I am automatic and fully loaded :) The sad part is I almost beat an RSX Type S but I redlighted. What happened to the good old days when there were a few slow cars at the track I could beat up? :(

You 'almost' beat a RSX Type S running a 16.8???

Type S's consistently run high 14s/low 15s stock. :confused:

understood, except he got a bad RT and I redlit by .008 so we finished even and if I did not redlight I may have edged him out based on RT. he ran 15 on the street he would smoke me

I just ran a 16.8 @ 83 mph with several bolt-ons...... although I am automatic and fully loaded :) The sad part is I almost beat an RSX Type S but I redlighted. What happened to the good old days when there were a few slow cars at the track I could beat up? :(

Hate to say it but if you're running 16s you're the slow guy that people beat up on. There are plenty of pickups, family sedans, and SUVs in the 15s and 14s nowadays. There are Kias that run better than 16.8, and a few Hyundais.

yeah good thing i have 2 wrx slaughtering fd's

yeah good thing i have 2 wrx slaughtering fd's

Two so that when one is getting its appex seals replaced you still have one to drive? :p And shouldn't you change you name to 16s4doorNA? Why the hell do you have two FDs anyhow? I would love one but just don't have the funds for a project car of that magnitude. But two... are you some kind of masochist?




Please take the above as a joke, it's not meant with any malicious intent.

Please take the above as a joke, it's not meant with any malcious intent.

Yeah right, King Troll. LOL :)

I have 2 FDs and an RX8 because I can afford it. I could easily drive an STI, but I can't stand the looks of it. It makes me want to puke and barely runs better than a manual RX8. I picked my name way BEFORE I bought my wife's auto RX8, and I was referring to the stick model, numerous 14s slip have been posted here. For the same price as the fully loaded STI, I prefer an 8 that looks, handles, rides and stops better than a Subaru and offers similar while inferior acceleration with a smaller engine and without turbo. (The manual RX8 is less than 1 sec slower than the STI in both 0-60 and 1/4 mile ET. And I haven't had ANY problems with my apex seal on either or my FDs, although both are boosting 15 psi with 3 inch exhaust. That reference to apex seals from the 70s is really played out, very lame......... :rolleyes:

No offense taken I am accustomed to your style already I normally ignore your nonsense except your "joke" was directly referring to me this time. No problem and by the way a daily driver 300 hp FD is not a project of great magnitude if you start with a decent motor and maintain it well, just like any car.

I have 2 FDs and an RX8 because I can afford it. I could easily drive an STI, but I can't stand the looks of it. It makes me want to puke and barely runs better than a manual RX8. I picked my name way BEFORE I bought my wife's auto RX8, and I was referring to the stick model, numerous 14s slip have been posted here. For the same price as the fully loaded STI, I prefer an 8 that looks, handles, rides and stops better than a Subaru and offers similar while inferior acceleration with a smaller engine and without turbo. (The manual RX8 is less than 1 sec slower than the STI in both 0-60 and 1/4 mile ET. And I haven't had ANY problems with my apex seal on either or my FDs, although both are boosting 15 psi with 3 inch exhaust. That reference to apex seals from the 70s is really played out, very lame......... :rolleyes:

No offense taken I am accustomed to your style already I normally ignore your nonsense except your "joke" was directly referring to me this time. No problem and by the way a daily driver 300 hp FD is not a project of great magnitude if you start with a decent motor and maintain it well, just like any car.


Ummm stock STis have been known to break into the 12s stock (low 13s on average) and run sub 5 secs 0-60... Who the hell was talking about the STi anyhow, a little defensive are we? Lastly the RX-8 does not outhandle the STi, you're misinformed, and outbrakes it by a very small margin. Sorry but it seems moronic to me to have two of the same car unless one is a parts car. Oh and ask your RX-7 buddies how many of them are on their original engine and then tell me how lame my joke was.

One last thing, you want to compare the Renesis to an STi engine or any other piston engine you're looking at a 2.6L Renesis vs. 2.5L for the STi or 2.0 if it's non USDM. How bout some pics of the 2 FDs with the RX-8?

How about some proof about 12 sec stock STI
Rotary engines are 1.3L ricer

it is a 2.6 if you want to compare it to a piston engine. I think its double the displacement.

here we go, another 1.3 - 2.6 debate... No matter how you slice it, an STi will beat the crap outta a RX-8 every day of the week.

leave Ike alone, he's an WRX/STi fan on an RX-8 board.

How about some proof about 12 sec stock STI
Rotary engines are 1.3L ricer

How about some proof that the RX-8 runs within 1 second of the STi, you made the claim first, and just about everyone here knows it's assanine. You're not worth my time to go digging through old threads on Subaru boards for the couple guys that have run 12.9s.

I'm not going to continue the mudslinging because it's pretty clear you will never admit you're wrong about anything and will just use personal attacks to skirt the actual argument.

Well, while I've never seen an RX-8 run within one second of an STi, I have never seen a stock STi break into the 12's stock. So case in point, you are both ricers.

the end.

Well, while I've never seen an RX-8 run within one second of an STi, I have never seen a stock STi break into the 12's stock. So case in point, you are both ricers.

the end.

I didn't say it was common and since you've never seen it it must not be true :rolleyes:

And I guess you can't read sarcasm in a post.

I visited the 1/4-mile dragway for the first time ever last night. It was a lot of fun, even though 80-90% of the cars there would smoke the RX-8 (including Cameros, Firebirds, Cobras, Neon SRT-4s, 3000GT VR-4s, and many others). I made about 7 runs, but my best time was 15.30 @ 90.51 mph. I just couldn't seem to nail a good launch. I either sat there and spun the tires and got crazy wheel hop, or I would bog down.

I had my wife with me as a passenger for all of my runs: how much difference do you think it made considering that she added roughly 3.5% to the curb weight of the car? Could my 15.3 have been closer to 15.0? My goal was to break into the 14s, but I had a feeling I wouldn't be able to do it with a passenger. There was another RX-8 there, and his best run was 15.24. I have a lot of respect for anyone who can break into the 14s with this car--it's definitely not easy to do as an inexperienced driver.

Here is the breakdown of my best run:
RT: 0.624
60 ft: 2.257
330 ft: 6.474
1/8 ET: 9.903
1/8 MPH: 71.31
1000' ET: 12.830
1/4 ET: 15.303
1/4 MPH: 90.51

Any suggestions for improving my ET (besides running without a passenger!)? I was shifting just before the rev limiter.

Lose the lady shift after redline. Launch at 6000

lose the lady, have an empty or 1/4 tank and FEATHER the clutch at 7000...
you can also keep the gas pedal nailed while shifting, but...

yeah do it. man if RX8 wasn't so slow I would buy a base model 6 speed just to show that I can run 14s. My wife has a fully loaded automatic 8 and it has every imaginable bolt-on. The car runs high 16s and it is slow as a slug

why destroy your car to lose an extra .2? power shifting only causes wheel hop, which doesn't result in acceleration. when you take an rx8 to the track, and it runs anything higher than a 13.5, everyone in the crowd is let down. its the way it is. people either love it because it's an 8, or hate it beause their gutted Kia with a 150 shot is faster.

I took mine to the track for the first time a couple weeks ago. Its only my second time at a dragstrip but I have many years autocrossing in everything from FW, RW and AWD cars. Weather was very chilly around 45-50F out. Made for some cool air, but very cold track so no hookup.

Launching at 6K - 1/2 tank gas - Stock air pressure - 3K miles on car - 6spd Sport Pkg
RT - 0.635
60 ft - 2.248
330 ft - 6.389
1/8 ET - 9.762
1/8 MPH - 73.26
1000' - 12.605
1/4 ET - 14.989
1/4 MPH - 92.72

That was my best run. I ran three others at - 15.039, 15.095, 15.098. I really wanted to get 1 run in the 14's!

There was a turbo 'Busa running street tires that was in the 9's all night :eek:

Funny thing...I'm a noob, never been to the drags with my 8. But showing off down the road to a few of my mates, in an attempt to do a 2nd burnout, I revved the thing to 7.5rpms dropped the clutch. Watta y'know...The thing blasts forward without a single sign of wheelspin and got the front lifting itself higher than I've ever felt it lift before. This was done after a 1st attempt where the tyres were probably very sticky.
7.5rpms,drop clutch, wait for traction.......SLAM THE LOUD PEDAL. Must remember for next time at the strip.

unfortunately there's a fine line between bogging, and gear shredding wheel hop. i've gone out on my 'private' testing strip and practiced launches and can nail them one after another on the street. the track is a different ball of wax, since you're practically launching off rubber. not to mention Bithlo (local track) is one of the slickest tracks in the east.

It's surreal to read an rx-8 is doing 15s at the 1/4. Nice car. Wish it has more guts out of the box.

BTW, I have seen STis doing 12s. Good drivers. Average drivers will break 13s without trying it. But they are quite ugly buggers. :D

shift @ 6500 rpm on first gear you should hit about 35mph
shift @ 8500 rpm on second gear you should hit about 70/75 mph
shift @ 8500 - 9000 rpm on third gear you should hit about 100+ mph
this will give you a better run... trust me!! its not the car... it's the driver!
maybe try powerclutch too... that works... must have at least stage two clutch

shift @ 6500 rpm on first gear you should hit about 35mph
shift @ 8500 rpm on second gear you should hit about 70/75 mph
shift @ 8500 - 9000 rpm on third gear you should hit about 100+ mph
this will give you a better run... trust me!! its not the car... it's the driver!
maybe try powerclutch too... that works... must have at least stage two clutch


You've never actually drag raced have you?

You've never actually drag raced have you?

haha :D

"Must have at least a stage 2 clutch"

I think someone plays a little too much Gran Turismo.

Epi,

Why didn't you drag with the CZ on? I'll be curious to see what effect it had on your times.

I haven't had it in my car for months...I don't have a laptop, canscan, or the time to tune it

This is what you need to do to get that good run in
"For the best launch get the Rpms at 7500 (thats when all the intake valves are open (all four) and you have quite a bit of tourqe.) You'll lay some rubber and off you go. try to maintain your Rpms above 7500 to maintain the most horse power. Oh Yead don't forget to turn off your traction controll, if not you'll never see the 5.9 sec 0-60"

15 seconds no more!!!

tonight in the mid 60's:

r/t: 1.158 (lol)
60': 2.269
330: 6.273
1/8: 9.561 @ 74.90
1000: 12.383
1/4: 14.785 @ 93.43!!!

i was so happy, and even happier that I know I can do much better. i'm in desperate need of new rubber.

edit: no stage 1. only exhaust.

:D 15 seconds no more!!!

tonight in the mid 60's:

r/t: 1.158 (lol)
60': 2.269
330: 6.273
1/8: 9.561 @ 74.90
1000: 12.383
1/4: 14.785 @ 93.43!!!

i was so happy, and even happier that I know I can do much better. i'm in desperate need of new rubber.

edit: no stage 1. only exhaust.

What happened to your trap? is that right?

In any case....congrats!

yea, right as rain...it baffles me too -.4 in ET and only +1 mph. i spun quite a bit through first, which moved me down the track, but didn't increase my speed much...i dunno

launch might b sumthen to look into... only been to track once n that was when i was learning to drive the car. no launch = 16 flat launch w/ a mis-shift = 15 good run= well i wouldnt know.

i lauch reved at 5 to 7.3 depending now and i've beaten stock WRX's and my friend got the 05 GT mustang today (5speed) and beat it all 3 times we raced at the um... track. ----i lauched at a high 6 most of the time today racin the GT

yea, right as rain...it baffles me too -.4 in ET and only +1 mph. i spun quite a bit through first, which moved me down the track, but didn't increase my speed much...i dunno


what rpm did you drop the clutch?

launch might b sumthen to look into... only been to track once n that was when i was learning to drive the car. no launch = 16 flat launch w/ a mis-shift = 15 good run= well i wouldnt know.

i lauch reved at 5 to 7.3 depending now and i've beaten stock WRX's and my friend got the 05 GT mustang today (5speed) and beat it all 3 times we raced at the um... track. ----i lauched at a high 6 most of the time today racin the GT

Your friend needs to learn how to drive.

5000rpm launch. plenty of spin with no hop.

you can easily avoid wheel hop launching at any rpm as long as you're smooth with the clutch. it's that shock that gets the wheels bouncing.