why is the euros getting only 237 hp? its usually the other way around, U.S gets the shittier models

... this is all over the place. the reason is that they're detuned for the higher Euro Stage IV emissions req's...

and the reason that the US gets the lower power car models is because there isn't a large enough market for more expensive, although faster, cars to justify boatin' them all over here. obviously that market is changing, and has grown larger since the mid-90's as we see powerful true imports coming back to North America.

Originally posted by wakeech
... this is all over the place. the reason is that they're detuned for the higher Euro Stage IV emissions req's...

and the reason that the US gets the lower power car models is because there isn't a large enough market for more expensive, although faster, cars to justify boatin' them all over here. obviously that market is changing, and has grown larger since the mid-90's as we see powerful true imports coming back to North America.

the reason why the us gets lower powered versions of the same cars is because of emissions. the u.s has the strictest emissions standards in the world, and cali has the strictest in the country. which is why i dont understand why the euro spec rx8 would have lower power then the u.s spec

Originally posted by tribal azn


the reason why the us gets lower powered versions of the same cars is because of emissions. the u.s has the strictest emissions standards in the world,

i sincerely doubt that the US has the strictest emissions in the world nationally, but yes, california has retardedly high emissions standards.... weirdo lefties.

Originally posted by wakeech


i sincerely doubt that the US has the strictest emissions in the world nationally, but yes, california has retardedly high emissions standards.... weirdo lefties.

have you ever experience LA on a smog alert day? It's not as bad now as if was a few years ago...wonder why?

i'm not saying that change is unneeded, but they regulate things like CO2 per 100/km and stuff... it makes sense to relegate things like that, but there are so many options which seem unpalletable to them (like using tax to control pollution as opposed to structured limits) because they're so left, which may in fact work better...

that, and celebrities just queer (not in the homophobic sense) the place up good, that's all...

Emissions are strictly controlled over here in the UK. Even so the government tries to lower emissions by taxing them. We pay tax based on CO2 emissions.

Also company car drivers pay a lot more if their car produces a lot of CO2. That is why diesel is becoming so popular over here, it produces significantly lower CO2 then its petrol counterpart.

I think that the reason is not emissions but noise .
Less noise in Europe ...so the exhaust is probably different...

It's DIN versus SAE, the former is used in Europe, the latter in the states. Hence euro numbers for the same engine will be approximately 6% smaller. But yes, as a rule, models sold in Europe have more power.

Regarding emissions, euro rules have become stronger. For example Subaru is selling, or is going to be selling, a WRX with a 2.5 liter/300 hp turbocharged engine. Won't be available in Europe because cars have to pass a high rev emission test which is not used stateside. Evidently that particular engine doesn't currently pass Euro rules.

There are also noise regs but those are more easily dealt with and make no effective difference in what cars are sold where.