Has anyone tried them? I am looking for tires, and there are not too many options with 225/45/18. And I wouldn't like to get lower profile tires.

So in my search I came acrosss these AVSES100 Yokohama's. My problem, I have never used them. If anyone has any experience, I am all ears..

Thanks!

http://www.yokohamatire.com/TireIntro.asp?TireID=9

Actually, Tirerack.com shows 8 different tires in that size... check it out, here (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compare1.jsp?startIndex=0&vehicleSearch=true&width=225%2F&ratio=45&diameter=18&search=true&pagelen=20&pagenum=1&pagemark=1&speed_rating=HR&speed_rating=VR&speed_rating=WR&speed_rating=YR&speed_rating=ZR&x=12&y=11).

As for which tires to pick, first decide what you want them to do. Max summer/dry road performance, max winter/slick road performance, or best compromise between the two extremes. Then based on what you want, start reading the customer reviews on Tirerack about the specific tires that fit your needs, and pick the one that you like the sound and look of the best. It's also a good idea to look at the treadwear number, as some tires (numbers below 200) will wear out quickly.

Finally, I'd also suggest you don't limit yourself to just the one size you listed. Lots of different widths/sidewall heights will fit on the RX-8's stock wheels, and if you go with a different size, it expands your selection in tires quite a bit. For instance, while the stock size is 225/45-18, I went with 245/40-18s, and they fit (and look) great! Spend some time hunting around in this forum to find out what sizes fit.

Coupla more things, now that I think about it...

First, a great tire size calculator that allows you to actually see what the different sizes look like on the wheels is here (http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp). The same site also has a great explanation of what all the sizing info means, here (http://www.1010tires.com/tiretech.asp). And finally, if you want Ultra High Performance all-season tires, I can highly recommend the (oversized, 18") Pirelli PZero Nero M+S tires that I went with. You can read about them, here (http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21980).

Hope this helps!

I have been doing a lot of research and it looks like those tires are soon to be on my car as well Omicron. I dont need to worry about snow over here, but they also got great dry and wet handling as well as a good tread life. Cant be beat for 150 bucks each.

They are a very good tire for the money. This is from feedback on the Roadfly Z3 board I have never used them myself.

Yes, they are indeed excellent tires. :D

I used these exact tires, though in a different size. I had AVS ES100s on my Mitsubishi 3000 GT in 225 / 55 / 16.

I loved those tires. They were excellent, both as sport tires when carving up twisties, and in the rain. I would highly recommend them, especially at the price they cost. :)

---Andrew

Originally posted by Omicron
Actually, Tirerack.com shows 8 different tires in that size... check it out, here (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compare1.jsp?startIndex=0&vehicleSearch=true&width=225%2F&ratio=45&diameter=18&search=true&pagelen=20&pagenum=1&pagemark=1&speed_rating=HR&speed_rating=VR&speed_rating=WR&speed_rating=YR&speed_rating=ZR&x=12&y=11). That's where my quest started....and I spotted the Yoko's awhile back on a R&T ad.

As for which tires to pick, first decide what you want them to do. Max summer/dry road performance, max winter/slick road performance, or best compromise between the two extremes. I guess Im looking for some good replacement for the stock rubber. As you said: a good compromise between performance and durability/reliability.

Then based on what you want, start reading the customer reviews on Tirerack about the specific tires that fit your needs, and pick the one that you like the sound and look of the best. It's also a good idea to look at the treadwear number, as some tires (numbers below 200) will wear out quickly.
The Pirellis have 220 I think, I couldn't find rating for Yokohama.

Finally, I'd also suggest you don't limit yourself to just the one size you listed. Lots of different widths/sidewall heights will fit on the RX-8's stock wheels, and if you go with a different size, it expands your selection in tires quite a bit. For instance, while the stock size is 225/45-18, I went with 245/40-18s, and they fit (and look) great! Spend some time hunting around in this forum to find out what sizes fit. I thought about supersizing. The only thing I don't want to do is mess with the tirewall height.

Coupla more things, now that I think about it...

First, a great tire size calculator that allows you to actually see what the different sizes look like on the wheels is here (http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp). The same site also has a great explanation of what all the sizing info means, here (http://www.1010tires.com/tiretech.asp). Thanks!

And finally, if you want Ultra High Performance all-season tires, I can highly recommend the (oversized, 18") Pirelli PZero Nero M+S tires that I went with. You can read about them, here (http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21980).

Hope this helps!
I read your thread awhile back. I guess I'll check into them...but they are slightly more expensive than stock rubber / Yoko (Yeah! I am a cheap bastard!)

Thanks!

Originally posted by flatso
They are a very good tire for the money. This is from feedback on the Roadfly Z3 board I have never used them myself.

Are you referring to the Yokos or the Pirellis Omicron was talking about?

Originally posted by livitup
I used these exact tires, though in a different size. I had AVS ES100s on my Mitsubishi 3000 GT in 225 / 55 / 16.

I loved those tires. They were excellent, both as sport tires when carving up twisties, and in the rain. I would highly recommend them, especially at the price they cost. :)

---Andrew

How was tread wear on them? Did they hold up together w/abuse included?

Originally posted by RX8-TX
Are you referring to the Yokos or the Pirellis Omicron was talking about?

Yokes

Actually, the Pirelli's have a treadwear of 400, not 220. Significant enough improvement to take note of.

Happy I was able to help. Be sure to let us know what you get!

Originally posted by RX8-TX
...I couldn't find rating for Yokohama.


Yokohama AVS ES 100 - Treadwear: 280, Traction: AA, Temp: A. (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.jsp?make=Yokohama&model=AVS+ES100) Please let us know how you like them if you get them.

Also, you may be interested in the AVS ES 100 data sheet (http://www.yokohamatire.com/pdf/avses100.pdf) off the Yokohama URL you posted.

how is the noise level on the AVS Es 100's?
I drive a lot a freeways.

Originally posted by rx8cited
Yokohama AVS ES 100 - Treadwear: 280, Traction: AA, Temp: A. (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.jsp?make=Yokohama&model=AVS+ES100) Please let us know how you like them if you get them.

Also, you may be interested in the AVS ES 100 data sheet (http://www.yokohamatire.com/pdf/avses100.pdf) off the Yokohama URL you posted.

Thank you!
Thanks Omi!
Thanks everyone!...will soon have to make a decission since the Potenza's are close to expire.

Happy to help. :D

But, if yourPotenzas are close to expiring, I'd be curious as to how many miles do you have on them?

Originally posted by Omicron
Happy to help. :D

But, if yourPotenzas are close to expiring, I'd be curious as to how many miles do you have on them?

I am about to cross....only 10K miles. I guess I haven't been nice to them. I think I can get another rotation (5K miles more) and change if I push it. But.....I don't want to have nasty surprises while driving.

my brother switched to yokos on his s2000 from dunlops and they are awesoem for the $. they are great minimal road noise great tread life and stick like glue. nice tires.

Yokohama - AVS ES100

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=38107

I have a set of them for sale right now!

Still available too!

:D

UPDATE: I am way past 16K miles and the friggin' Potenzas still have plenty of thread. I really really want to switch tires :D

As long as were talkin tires, When my Potenza's wear out (gonna be a while), Im going with something like the BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDW 2. Specs- 300 AA A.

I'm looking at BF Goodrich Comp TA KD tires (no need for the all weather of the KDW) or the Michelin Pilot Sport 2's Both are pretty much the best tires out there. I will probably go to 245/40/18

I'm looking at BF Goodrich Comp TA KD tires (no need for the all weather of the KDW) or the Michelin Pilot Sport 2's Both are pretty much the best tires out there. I will probably go to 245/40/18

245/40s should give you almost exactly the same overall diameter, right?

245/40s should give you almost exactly the same overall diameter, right?

Try the calculator you quoted in this post of yours ;) http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?p=322835&postcount=7

Diameter Difference: 1.01%

Since the 245/40 is wider, are their any rubbing problems with it?

rx8cited

245/40s should give you almost exactly the same overall diameter, right?

225/45R18 - Overall Diameter: 25.97 in 659.63 mm
225/40R18 - Overall Diameter: 25.08 in 637.03 mm
- - - - - - - - - -
245/45R18 - Overall Diameter: 26.68 in 677.67 mm
245/40R18 - Overall Diameter: 25.71 in 653.03 mm

Hope that helps!

:cool:

Try the calculator you quoted in this post of yours ;) http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?p=322835&postcount=7

Diameter Difference: 1.01%

Since the 245/40 is wider, are their any rubbing problems with it?

rx8cited

What I meant is:
I assume you will use stock wheels. The stockies are 8" wide.
With the 225/45/18 & stock rims, you get an overall diameter of 25.97" - If you go from 225 --> 245 & 45 --> 40, the overall diameter of the tire won't be affected that much. Why? the aspect ratio is lower, but width is greater. One compensates for the lack of the other....

Anyways, here is a good read:
http://www.enjoythedrive.com/content/?id=25824

And I don't think you'll have serious rubbing problems...the big issue is when you upsize your wheels as well. If you keep the stock ones (8" wide) & the 245s fit....no drama.

225/45R18 - Overall Diameter: 25.97 in 659.63 mm
225/40R18 - Overall Diameter: 25.08 in 637.03 mm
- - - - - - - - - -
245/45R18 - Overall Diameter: 26.68 in 677.67 mm
245/40R18 - Overall Diameter: 25.71 in 653.03 mm

Hope that helps!

:cool:

Those numbers are assuming that the tires are mounted on what wheels?

Those numbers are assuming that the tires are mounted on what wheels?

I would't think so, right? :confused:

http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp

FYI, I still have those Yokohama ES100 225-45-18 for sale ;)

I would't think so, right? :confused:

http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp

FYI, I still have those Yokohama ES100 225-45-18 for sale ;)
Keep drilling! The only solution for me to buy tires is if some charitable soul would puncture all four of my Potenzas... :rolleyes:

j/k

Keep drilling! The only solution for me to buy tires is if some charitable soul would puncture all four of my Potenzas... :rolleyes:

j/k

Or you could take care of the dilema yourself by drifting or doing burnouts :D.

I measured my Potenza tread depths and at 6500 miles I have only 1/32" of wear, so I decided to stop drooling over new tires for now.

rx8cited

Yeah, I'm going to keep my stock (8") rims. I had them chromed, and they look nice. I think 245's will be more than enough for this car. I would just like them to be stickier. I also want them to be about the same width front and back to keep the great balance that this car has. I don't want to have any understeer problems when the width gets too big in the back tires.

I just put 245/40s on my stock rims after 32,872 miles on the RE040s. What a difference! I don't think the REs were ever this quiet. Maybe it was the wear (I still had about 1/8" of useable tread) but the REs were deafening.

Only had a few opportunities to check out the grip. Seems I'm taking a certain 90 degree left near me at a brisker pace.

I'm glad I went with the Yokos and the wider tire.