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Jedi54 09-15-2011, 01:27 PM We've been seeing an increase in threads that are very redundant and some of them stay open and turn into flame fests. I think the moderators who are on here do an excellent job of monitoring these threads but I don't think they have enough support.
I post this not as a critique but maybe this has been overlooked by the powers that be.
Admins
We are fortunate that all 4 of our Admins are active and participating.
Super Mods
These are the guys who are doing most of the policing but we have two Super Mods who we do not often see.
Abbid: Last post was 6/21/2010
Polak: Last logged on 12-14-2010, last post 5/3/2010
Moderators
This is where I think we are seriously hurting
Chrism - last post 5/29/2011 no posts in 4 months
Gord96brg - Last log on 6-2-2011, last post 10/6/2006 almost 5 years since his last post
Irish in a RX8 - last logon 5-2-2010, last post 8/15/2007 not login for over a year, last post 3+ years ago
lurch519 - last logon 3-3-2011, last post 9/4/2009 over 2 years
my10ae - last logon 1-8-2011, last post 2/5/2009 hasn't logged in YTD, last post almost 2.5 years ago
syntrix - last post 6-14-11
toadman - 9-24-2010, last post 3-14-2008 3+ years
of our 11 moderators only 2 of them are frequenting the board regularly and are actively contributing with posts.
Granted, some of these moderators might be performing tasks behind the scenes (thread clean up, archiving, deleting posts, etc) but based on log on and post dates, part of me seriously doubts that. :(
I want to tip my hat to those who are active for the great job they are doing, have done, and will continue to do. I am certain those mentioned above were once great contributors which is why they were elevated to that status but life events happen, people move on, and maybe it's time to reconsider their titles and give our current moderator staff a little bit more help by letting some of the newer folks help out.
Ash8 is a PERFECT example of this as he's new to the moderator ranks but is working his tail off to ensure the Series II subforum remains in order.
Again, I'm not trying to throw anyone under the bus, that is honestly the last thing I want anyone to take away from this. This is simply something I've noticed over the years and was hoping to share it with the Admins / Super Mods. I know you guys are busy, just trying to make your lives a little easier.
9krpmrx8 09-15-2011, 02:24 PM I agree 100%. More mod involvement on a regular basis would clean things up nicely. Besides, I need more supervision.
Jedi54 09-15-2011, 05:44 PM I agree 100%. More mod involvement on a regular basis would clean things up nicely. Besides, I need more supervision.
yeah, you SARX guys definitely need more supervision. :lol2:
Maybe I've just spent too many years in the corporate world but I'm a firm believer that every great organization must continuously evaluate itself and adjust accordingly to stay competitive, efficient, and profitable. In this case, I think things could be more efficient if this is given a fair evaluation.
At the end of the day this is a community in which we all feel a sense of ownership and take pride in how this site runs so if we can make the lives of our (super well paid ;) ) moderators a little easier then I'm all for it. Hopefully the Admins will find this suggestion relevant and act upon it.
WTBRotary! 09-15-2011, 05:55 PM ^^^ +1
RX8Soldier 09-15-2011, 06:03 PM I've also been looking at those bold user names and wondering if it was time to change the pace.
Internet high-five to the Mods/Admin who frequent the boards!
J8635621 09-15-2011, 06:05 PM for sure
NgoRX8 09-15-2011, 08:32 PM I agree and wish to throw it out there
Jedi For Moderator!!!
Tamas 09-15-2011, 08:33 PM The truth with you is, master Jedi :)
J8635621 09-15-2011, 08:40 PM I want to be a moderator just of the wheel/tire section. I'll be amazing.
RX8Soldier 09-15-2011, 08:47 PM j, I was actually thinkin about just that!
You for tires
firebirdude for audio
Jedi for the Lounge :D:
gregs 09-15-2011, 11:55 PM Jedi for Mod!
Brettus 09-16-2011, 12:04 AM Can I be the moderator for MM ?
ZumnRx8 09-16-2011, 12:07 AM I think Jedi has been around long enough :bigok: and is super active with the RX8club both on and off the forums:yesnod: JEDI for Moderator
Ex: SEVENSTOCK 14, Epic Sevenstock Socal Caravans, SB Meet, SoCal Dyno day, NorCal Mocc Meet, WHiV meet, other random meets.
RX8Soldier 09-16-2011, 12:11 AM I'd sign that petition!
ZumnRx8 09-16-2011, 12:11 AM I want to be a moderator just of the wheel/tire section. I'll be amazing.
If you do please, please, delete repeated quotes of pictures on the same page, and resize or link oversized pictures.
MazdaManiac 09-16-2011, 12:17 AM Can I be the moderator for MM ?
Why? So you can spout more trash and nonsense around here and get away with it?
Seriously - are you vying for Moon Assad status?
F-off. Really.
RXeligion 09-16-2011, 12:19 AM 9K for Mod: I see him on here as often as anyone, he makes valuable contributions, and isn't a flame-thrower.
Brettus 09-16-2011, 12:21 AM /\ was a joke man - knida like you .....
MazdaManiac 09-16-2011, 12:25 AM /\ was a joke man - knida like you .....
Indeed. Keep it up.
bse50 09-16-2011, 01:53 AM Jorge for president!
8 Maniac 09-16-2011, 01:59 AM I think this thread is proof that we don't need more moderators....
On a more serious note, I agree with Jedi. I did notice that quite a few of the moderators had become inactive on the forums. I was actually discussing this a bit with another member recently. I think having a few more active moderators would really help with consistent moderation. We all know there is only so much moderators can manage on a regular basis. That said, it can seem a bit aggravating to see one thread/post moderated while another goes unnoticed or untouched. Even if it's not a bias, people tend to take it personally when something like that happens. More moderators could make for more consistent moderation. That would probably help things seem more "fair" and also make it known that certain things will not be accepted.
ken-x8 09-16-2011, 07:03 AM I think this thread is proof that we don't need more moderators....
And yet we have two members, each fine on their own, bringing their ongoing brawl into this thread. If there were enough moderators they would have been put down.
Jedi - you've got guts for bringing this up. Reminds me about the time I griped about the crappy job my neighborhood home owners association's board of directors was doing. Turned out that was interpreted as volunteering to take a slot on the board.
Ken
MazdaManiac 09-16-2011, 09:54 AM If there were enough moderators they would have been put down.
So you are officially accusing the moderators of not doing their job?
At least two moderators have come into this thread and read it up to this point.
What you are suggesting and what Jedi are suggesting are two different things.
Come off that high-horse.
9krpmrx8 09-16-2011, 10:39 AM 9K for Mod: I see him on here as often as anyone, he makes valuable contributions, and isn't a flame-thrower.
+1 :suspect:
:lol:
Grungepup 09-16-2011, 10:49 AM yeah, you SARX guys definitely need more supervision. :lol2:
:dunno:
slvrstreak 09-16-2011, 11:15 AM 9K for Mod: I see him on here as often as anyone, he makes valuable contributions, and isn't a flame-thrower.
:rofl:
:evil_laug
ken-x8 09-16-2011, 11:25 AM So you are officially accusing the moderators of not doing their job?
Nope. The ones that are active do a great job, and are underappreciated. I just concur with Jedi that they're overloaded.
Come off that high-horse.
Neigh! ;)
Ken
MazdaManiac 09-16-2011, 11:32 AM Neigh! ;)
LOL!!:p:
RogueTadhg 09-16-2011, 04:08 PM ...what just happened?
Jedi54 09-16-2011, 04:24 PM Jedi - you've got guts for bringing this up.
What's the worst that can happen, they ban me?
oh wait, we've already been down that road once... :uhh: :fruit:
...what just happened?
:dunno:
ken-x8 09-16-2011, 04:37 PM What's the worst that can happen, they ban me?
No...they can make you a moderator.
Ken
zoom44 09-16-2011, 08:35 PM Besides, I need more supervision.
and you are very close to getting some.
zoom44 09-16-2011, 08:38 PM 9K for Mod: I see him on here as often as anyone, he makes valuable contributions, and isn't a flame-thrower.
then you might not understand what flames are:yesnod:
zoom44 09-16-2011, 08:41 PM while another goes unnoticed or untouched. Even if it's not a bias, people tend to take it personally when something like that happens.
my in box isnt exactly filling up with reported posts. except for those ones about 9ks posts
zoom44 09-16-2011, 08:42 PM Turned out that was interpreted as volunteering to take a slot on the board.
Ken
isnt that what jedi was saying in the op?
Jedi54 09-16-2011, 08:49 PM isnt that what jedi was saying in the op?
Nowhere in my OP did I volunteer, that was not the purpose of this thread.
The reason for my post was to bring attention to an oversight that I felt had been allowed to pass for far too long.
Now, should the Admins feel that I can be a part of this solution then I would be open to having that conversation with them, I would consider the options, and make some form of decision.
zoom44 09-16-2011, 08:59 PM Abbid: Last post was 6/21/2010
Polak: Last logged on 12-14-2010, last post 5/3/2010
Chrism - last post 5/29/2011 no posts in 4 months
Gord96brg - Last log on 6-2-2011, last post 10/6/2006 almost 5 years since his last post
Irish in a RX8 - last logon 5-2-2010, last post 8/15/2007 not login for over a year, last post 3+ years ago
lurch519 - last logon 3-3-2011, last post 9/4/2009 over 2 years
my10ae - last logon 1-8-2011, last post 2/5/2009 hasn't logged in YTD, last post almost 2.5 years ago
syntrix - last post 6-14-11
toadman - 9-24-2010, last post 3-14-2008 3+ years
you are correct about that list. we've been reluctant over the years to de-mod people and add more. we started to correct that with Ash. there are/were a couple otehr on the list and i have to say the mods have been asking for more help and the admins(including myself here) have been dragging our feet with adding more.
some of that is just life- elara had another child and has been busy on the homme front. i've had avery busy year outside of here also with home repairs/vacations and such( Jedi knows about that list i gave him in a message the other day)
The guys in bold i will probably never de-list - Abbid and Polak for contributions they made to the community, gordbrg for stuff behind the scenes as well as in public, Toadman because he was one of the ones that started the forum, was the admin that brought elara and i on board and did all of that while working for a certain company that will remain nameless.....
maybe we should give them some other title....
any way yeah we need more mods. we've been letting allot more stuff go then we used to because in general the forum works pretty well, notwithstanding MM and Brettus, and OD and MM , and etc
gonna have to do something with newbs. i've never really liked the implementation of the 7club but maybe we do need a newb forum so that they have aplace to start threads for a certain number of posts. Admins and mods(and regular members who request to and we trust) can handle the threads and decide to move them to the right place or answer them and give links to the right threads.
zoom44 09-16-2011, 09:04 PM Nowhere. did i leave out the :p::rolleyes::yelrotflm:yelrotflm ??
zoom44 09-16-2011, 09:07 PM probably need to rethink all of the stickies too. maybe we shoudl have a poll for each section and then only keep the ones that make the cut or something..
8 Maniac 09-16-2011, 09:13 PM my in box isnt exactly filling up with reported posts. except for those ones about 9ks posts
I can't tell if you're serious about 9k lol. I can't throw any stones at him because he's been a huge help to me and many other locals. That said, I definitely think he has contribute a fair amount of useful information and discussion to these forums, so he's doing quite a bit better than some other members I've seen here, though I wont go into that since that's not the point of this thread.
Unfortunately, I don't think there's an easy way to change the way people report posts. I really only bother reporting spam. I believe the point Jedi was going for, as you seem to have mentioned in your most recent post in the thread, is that we need more active members as moderators. At least that would increase the chances of a mod passing through a thread to clean it up or keep it on track a bit more often.
Easy_E1 09-16-2011, 09:15 PM :flamed:
Just testing it out. ;)
9krpmrx8 09-16-2011, 09:28 PM I happy that some additional attention is being brought to various sections of the board. I admit I like to ruffle feathers from time to time but I also admit I get carried away and I am a bit more touchy about noobs lately so if I get reprimanded, I accept that.
I also spend a lot of time here and I see A LOT of stuff fly under the radar and I just think there needs to be a bit more regulation. But, I also have to remind myself that this board is not a democracy so what I think doesn't really mean jack. I have taken the hint, for now I will just leave the stupid redundant threads alone.
All of your ideas are good ideas Zoom.
RogueTadhg 09-17-2011, 08:42 AM you are correct about that list. we've been reluctant over the years to de-mod people and add more. we started to correct that with Ash. there are/were a couple otehr on the list and i have to say the mods have been asking for more help and the admins(including myself here) have been dragging our feet with adding more.
some of that is just life- elara had another child and has been busy on the homme front. i've had avery busy year outside of here also with home repairs/vacations and such( Jedi knows about that list i gave him in a message the other day)
The guys in bold i will probably never de-list - Abbid and Polak for contributions they made to the community, gordbrg for stuff behind the scenes as well as in public, Toadman because he was one of the ones that started the forum, was the admin that brought elara and i on board and did all of that while working for a certain company that will remain nameless.....
maybe we should give them some other title....
any way yeah we need more mods. we've been letting allot more stuff go then we used to because in general the forum works pretty well, notwithstanding MM and Brettus, and OD and MM , and etc
gonna have to do something with newbs. i've never really liked the implementation of the 7club but maybe we do need a newb forum so that they have aplace to start threads for a certain number of posts. Admins and mods(and regular members who request to and we trust) can handle the threads and decide to move them to the right place or answer them and give links to the right threads.
"Contributor"
Jedi54 09-17-2011, 11:46 AM The guys in bold i will probably never de-list - Abbid and Polak for contributions they made to the community, gordbrg for stuff behind the scenes as well as in public, Toadman because he was one of the ones that started the forum, was the admin that brought elara and i on board and did all of that while working for a certain company that will remain nameless.....
maybe we should give them some other title....
I agree they should be given another title that is worthy of their commitment and past contributions.
Something like, 'contributor' or 'supporter', would be nice.
Also, some of the newer folks might see the Moderator tag, PM them looking for help and be frustrated that they didn't get a response. By changing their title, you could avoid situations like that.
gonna have to do something with newbs. i've never really liked the implementation of the 7club but maybe we do need a newb forum so that they have aplace to start threads for a certain number of posts. Admins and mods(and regular members who request to and we trust) can handle the threads and decide to move them to the right place or answer them and give links to the right threads.
I'm not a huge fan of the way the 7club does things either. I remember making a bunch of rather random posts just so I could finally post in certain sections.
I think if we have more mods, they can monitor the noobs a bit more and merge / close threads that are super repetitive.
Maybe just restrict their ability to start a thread until they have 5 posts or more? :dunno:
probably need to rethink all of the stickies too. maybe we shoudl have a poll for each section and then only keep the ones that make the cut or something..
Not a fan of this to be honest as leaving it up to voting could just complicate things. For the most part I think the majority of the sticky threads are still relevant.
ken-x8 09-17-2011, 02:33 PM Great ideas, Jedi. If this was my neighborhood, you'd be president of the homeowner's association by now. :)
For the inactive/retired moderators...why not "Moderator emeritus"?
Ken
rickeo 09-17-2011, 03:18 PM Being a personal friend of his, I can assure you Polak isn't coming back :-)
His `09 M3 takes up far too much of his time.
8 Maniac 09-17-2011, 03:54 PM While it hasn't been as much of a problem recently, I know that a decent amount of spam posts show up late at night as well as some of the more useless posts. I can think of a at least a couple recent threads that I would have loved to go through and clean up, including some of my own posts lol.
I'm not a huge fan of the way the 7club does things either. I remember making a bunch of rather random posts just so I could finally post in certain sections.
Exactly what I was thinking. I'd like to consider myself a decent forum member, in terms of proper searching, thread creating, posting etc. When I registered for 7club, I had already been a member here for a long while and I generally knew how to behave on a forum. That said, I ended up going around to find as many threads to post a comment in just so I could post what I wanted. I wouldn't say they were completely useless posts, but it was mostly "nice car" type posts. I think it may do some good, but it could also cause a lot of useless posts from any new members, including "good members".
MazdaManiac 09-17-2011, 04:05 PM Well, I know I report a bunch of SPAM posts from time to time and they usually take hours or days to disappear.
Useless/repetitive posts will happen, but there doesn't seem to be a mechanism in place to deal with that to begin with.
There sheer amount of sloth on the part of new members (and-not-so new members) is staggering, let alone the wheel re-inventing crowd.
And by re-inventing the wheel, I don't mean simply revisiting a subject.
I mean posting up theorems and speculation (often stating them as fact and without useful data) on subjects where there is already significant study and discussion elsewhere on the forum.
There are so many threads that cycle back to the beginning of an argument over and over again as if the new "contributors" hadn't actually read the thread before posting [sarcasm].
What a real moderator would do is understand the subject matter and edit the thread flows, but that is asking way too much for volunteers with no vested interest in a forum that is already collapsing under its own weight - both in content and, apparently, DB management.
slvrstreak 09-17-2011, 06:15 PM For the inactive/retired moderators...why not "Moderator emeritus"?
Ken
cause most people dont know what emeritus means :lol:
Galen Darkmoon 09-17-2011, 09:47 PM Force Jedi into Admin prostitution. LOL
KidZoom 09-17-2011, 10:05 PM Judging from the number of adverts here and the Site traffic, one or more persons are collecting some reasonable fees. This is a fairly large forum, some repetition and trolls are to be expected. There are some great threads for DIY, Mods, and many other areas. However, there is a huge vacuum for tech help for legitimate questions. Many people who come here looking for help are stressed by a complex car that is not functioning today and they have to drive it tomorrow and their only alternative is the local stealership that charges way too much money to fix everything RX. Far too often they are immediately flamed, in about the same volume of words that would take to link them to a thread that will help them. We are all in this together, they are fellow 8 owners. Throwing insults does no good for the club or the noob. It is common sense that the number of RX8 owners here far outnumbers those that are Mazda employees or Mazda techs. It just makes you look bad to harp on someone that asks a legitimate question. We all hate people talking down to us.
As for moderators, administrators, owners, etc, being more active. That could help. Many of you have volunteered or conscripted some of the best members of this forum to help. Hopefully, that will bear fruit.
But the one thing all can do is to show some common courtesy in sharing your very important understanding of all things rotary.
8 Maniac 09-17-2011, 11:33 PM If you're implying that moderators or admins get paid, that's incorrect. The board is hosted for free because of the ads. Internet Brands collects any profits made by the forum, as far as I know. Pretty much the only thing they'll take care of is vendor claims or site glitches/problems... and that's only when they feel like it.
9krpmrx8 09-17-2011, 11:42 PM Judging from the number of adverts here and the Site traffic, one or more persons are collecting some reasonable fees. This is a fairly large forum, some repetition and trolls are to be expected. There are some great threads for DIY, Mods, and many other areas. However, there is a huge vacuum for tech help for legitimate questions. Many people who come here looking for help are stressed by a complex car that is not functioning today and they have to drive it tomorrow and their only alternative is the local stealership that charges way too much money to fix everything RX. Far too often they are immediately flamed, in about the same volume of words that would take to link them to a thread that will help them. We are all in this together, they are fellow 8 owners. Throwing insults does no good for the club or the noob. It is common sense that the number of RX8 owners here far outnumbers those that are Mazda employees or Mazda techs. It just makes you look bad to harp on someone that asks a legitimate question. We all hate people talking down to us.
As for moderators, administrators, owners, etc, being more active. That could help. Many of you have volunteered or conscripted some of the best members of this forum to help. Hopefully, that will bear fruit.
But the one thing all can do is to show some common courtesy in sharing your very important understanding of all things rotary.
I don't think any of the regulars here mind answering legitimate questions if the person asking the question has at least taken the time to use the board and search a bit (or at least read the damn owners manual). But when people just come in and don't bother to search at all, and then expect us to feed them information, that it is annoying. Especially when they are asking a retarded question like, "what is the best exhaust for the RX-8?" or, "What type of oil should I use?", or "My car won't start, what should I do?", etc. etc.
This board is organized pretty well and information is very easy to find if read the threads that are already there for new members. A Noob forum is a great idea.
TeamRX8 09-17-2011, 11:57 PM they won't any more read that than a sticky thread titled "what belongs in this forum"
they are clueless and there is only one way for them to learn and that is the hard way, so boo-focking-hoo
KidZoom 09-17-2011, 11:58 PM If you're implying that moderators or admins get paid, that's incorrect. The board is hosted for free because of the ads. Internet Brands collects any profits made by the forum, as far as I know. Pretty much the only thing they'll take care of is vendor claims or site glitches/problems... and that's only when they feel like it.
Thanks for the information. Have you ever explored hosting and getting paid? There is some fairly serious money moving to someone. The host access is very slow and one of the biggest concerns addressed here is the terrible search engine.
.02 worth
Speed_8 09-17-2011, 11:58 PM what about all the people who have been recently ripped off? majority of those sellers had 0 post counts. Can we maybe implement a post count before they sell anything ?
TeamRX8 09-18-2011, 12:00 AM do we have to rehash the same old ideas that will never work and why that is over and over again? Most people get ripped off because they don't think before sending money, period.
jeezus, lock this thread already
KidZoom 09-18-2011, 12:16 AM Thanks for the information. Have you ever explored hosting and getting paid? There is some fairly serious money moving to someone. The host access is very slow and one of the biggest concerns addressed here is the terrible search engine.
.02 worth
Just researched Internet Brands. They would probably crush any move to create your own hosting option.
"Never mind" Rosanna Rosanna Danna
elysium19 09-18-2011, 03:28 PM Hi everyone,
So I don't know if this is wanted at all, or pretentious for even bringing it up, but I'd be willing to volunteer as a moderator, as it sounds like there are not nearly enough active mods. I've been a part of this community for 5 years since I got my car and have been involved in discussions of all sorts and involved in plenty of real-world rotary community events. There are at least a handful of people I've met on the boards (and in real life) who could vouch for me. You've probably all seen my posts in various places (except the lounge....honestly, I come here to talk cars, I keep my casual chit chat to the bar!) I certainly have my views on things, but I know how and when to tuck those away to stay neutral and keep the discussions organized and appropriate. I've never been a forum moderator before, and would need some introduction to that, but have been in charge of various organizations before and am quite sure I could handle the responsibilities as I think I understand them.
I visit the site a few times a week, and for at least the next year or two will continue to do so. I don't know if 2-3 hours a week is enough time investment, but that's about what I can offer. I have no interest in being compensated for this. You can see from plenty of my prior posts that I'm really just interested in having a vibrant community and a good resource of content available for people interested in our cars. Almost everything I know about cars in general came form this community, and I appreciate that tremendously.
That said, I realize that there is plenty of BS that moderators have to deal with, which is probably why people are less active in doing so. Not too excited about that, but I'm cool with helping. One idea I was thinking about was having certain moderators in charge of certain parts of the site, just so they are more familiar with the types of threads that go on there, and the people that post there.
Anyway, if this would be helpful at all, one of the mods should PM me or post here. That's all....
-Andrew
AkursedX 09-20-2011, 01:31 PM Well I'd like to throw in my 2-cents as I am fairly new to this forum.
I would like to preface this by saying that I've been doing the automotive messageboard thing for over 10-years. I have probably made over 25000 posts on many different boards. I have over 1000 posts on ~6 different boards and over ~100 posts on probably another 10 boards. I am also a moderator of a low-traffic Fiero-board.
I will say that this board is a wealth of information for those that are willing to search for it. I have been able to find answers for nearly every question I have been able to come up with. I also find that the search is pretty easy to use. That being said, I also know that not everyone is going to be as resourceful as I have been in finding my own answers and I do find this board to be pretty abrasive on 'noobs'. I understand the frustration though, I can't think of how many times I have seen the same questions posted over and over and it does get old answering the same questions.
I think a 'noob/intro' forum would be a good way to avoid the clutter that pops up in the tech section plus it gives a way for a new member to introduce themselves. When I first posted here, I wasn't sure where/how I wanted to introduce myself here. Then make it so a person can't post anywhere else until they start an intro-thread. Many people will post their problems right in the intro thread I'm willing to bet. Then the people who want to take the time to answer the repeated questions can and the people who are annoyed by it would be more inclined to just avoid the 'noob' forum.
As for moderation, it seems like this board is moderated pretty well. Flaming doesn't seem to be a huge issue, and I don't see many things in the wrong place. I have seen far far worse places.
I do find that some sections have too many stickies. This is just a personal preference, but I really only like seeing 2-3 stickies in any forum section. When you start putting more things, it starts getting cluttered.
About the only other thing I would like to add, and I saw this covered in an earlier thread in this section is that I would like to see a project thread section. I saw that some people felt that it would become cluttered with projects that never had a chance of getting off the ground and this would probably be the case. But I have a solution to offer for that. Only allow moderators or admins to move people's builds and projects into the new section. I know of another board that does this and it makes for many hours of great reading seeing the progress of people's builds.
I know once I get an RX8, I will be doing a dedicated build-thread for the car here and on a few other boards at the same time. Reading through build-threads is probably one of my favorite things to do on the internet.
I hope no one takes offense to any of my input as I understand that I am still a 'noob' here, but these are just things that I have seen in my limited time here. Like I've said before, I've been a member of many automotive messageboards and I have seen some really good ideas in different places. I really do enjoy this board and I hope I'll be able to contribute more as I learn more about the RX8 and hopefully meet some people in real-life eventually.
9krpmrx8 09-20-2011, 01:39 PM ^ Good ideas. I wish every new member was like you and other new members that have come to the club that did take the time to research before starting a new thread asking questions. Most new member introduce themselves by starting a thread and asking five different random question that could have been answered had they searched for two minutes.
The Reverend 09-20-2011, 02:19 PM gtfo noob
:dunno:
Chris 09-20-2011, 02:58 PM I really like the idea of have a build/project section. The initial intro post is a cool idea that I have yet to see anywhere. Great Ideas!
...oh and rev, I thought you bought a s2k, gtfo :lol:
Brettus 09-20-2011, 03:25 PM I really like the idea of have a build/project section.
:
Good idea but :
to start a thread in it you actually have to have started your build :eyetwitch
J8635621 09-20-2011, 03:41 PM It should be a badge of honor to have your build in that subforum. Only the good ones that bring something new to the equation or the really thorough builds. None of the "I bought a greddy kit of my baby's mama's cousin's ex husband for $300 and I want to shoot flames" bullcrap.
Chad D. 09-20-2011, 03:51 PM Good points you made AkursedX,
I'm pretty sure I will meet you eventually.
and secondly,
I should be a moderator, and moderate all the thugs and bitches here. No really. I should. I don't even hide behind a silly user name and I am reasonable. + I rock Advans. so there.
mods actually do a good job here on 8club, the ones that moderate that is. :)
slvrstreak 09-20-2011, 05:39 PM I really like the idea of have a build/project section. The initial intro post is a cool idea that I have yet to see anywhere. Great Ideas!
...oh and rev, I thought you bought a s2k, gtfo :lol:
:rofl:
and i agree...good analysis newb :)
alnielsen 09-20-2011, 07:36 PM I don't even hide behind a silly user name and I am reasonable.
Nor do I.
I have been following everyones posts here.
redline86 09-20-2011, 10:41 PM I think a 'noob/intro' forum would be a good way to avoid the clutter that pops up in the tech section plus it gives a way for a new member to introduce themselves. When I first posted here, I wasn't sure where/how I wanted to introduce myself here. Then make it so a person can't post anywhere else until they start an intro-thread. Many people will post their problems right in the intro thread I'm willing to bet. Then the people who want to take the time to answer the repeated questions can and the people who are annoyed by it would be more inclined to just avoid the 'noob' forum.
cflrx8club.com has a noob thread. Here is a thought although it might be unrealistic, in a noob thread have stickies for things like, car wont start? then get the mods to post links to several of the larger threads already covering the various problems associated with the symptom. Car is over heating etc. etc.
People come to these forums usually cause they are having a problem, they are uneducated, know little about RX's and possibly cars in general. Most of the usually problems already have very good threads covering just about everything. I've found a solution to any problem I've had through trolling page after page. I have yet to see a new problem that someone else has that haven't already been described and fixed.
But at the same time, the sheer amount of information on this forum could overwhelm a person trying to find their problem, especially if they don't have hours of free time at work every weekend to do nothing else but read everything you can find about everything.
You could throw my cooling issue thread into the "this idiot could do all this so can you" noob thread.
But in the end, you can't cure lazy unfortuantly, no matter how easy you try and make things.
redline86 09-20-2011, 10:54 PM I would also like to add that there seems to be a growing number of noobs that think that there are people who spend all day on this forum just to answer their every question. It's really annoying and I consider myself a newb, it fills up my new post search with stupid things and it takes me longer to get updated or new stuff, new for sale, updates from venders, etc.
I say lock the newbs into the newb section for a while, and give us a filter to filter out the newb post.
Unrealistic demands I know....
laythor 09-20-2011, 11:15 PM . I am also a moderator of a low-traffic Fiero-board.
that seems redundant :yelrotflm
i kid, i kid :)
Chris 09-21-2011, 11:57 AM Good idea but :
to start a thread in it you actually have to have started your build :eyetwitch
:tear:
I am so stocked man... only a few weeks away from the build itself :naughty:
HiFlite999 09-21-2011, 12:42 PM cflrx8club.com has a noob thread. Here is a thought although it might be unrealistic, in a noob thread have stickies for things like, car wont start? then get the mods to post links to several of the larger threads already covering the various problems associated with the symptom. Car is over heating etc. etc.
People come to these forums usually cause they are having a problem, they are uneducated, know little about RX's and possibly cars in general. Most of the usually problems already have very good threads covering just about everything. I've found a solution to any problem I've had through trolling page after page. I have yet to see a new problem that someone else has that haven't already been described and fixed.
But at the same time, the sheer amount of information on this forum could overwhelm a person trying to find their problem, especially if they don't have hours of free time at work every weekend to do nothing else but read everything you can find about everything.
I agree with all you said here. "Search" is not an answer to every question for several reasons. The first is urgency when someone unfamiliar with RX-8's in particular, or automobile mechanics in general, encounters a problem. A sympton based sticky list would help. A second issue comes with the terminology unique to the 8. I was hardly a automotive novice, yet it took quite a while to figure out frequently posted terms like SSV, APV, VFAD, UIM, LIM, MSP-16 and the like. A third issue is the overwhelming volume of "data" available after nearly a decade's life in a very active forum often results in a needle-in-haystack problem when trying to find info on a specific topic.
Still, whatever its shortcomings, this forum is rather remarkable. With an RX-8 population of ~200,000 to have or have had 70,000 users and often several hundred logged in at any given time, shows a level of owner interest that is rivaled by few other makes. :ylsuper:
zoom44 09-21-2011, 12:56 PM hiflite- post #2 (http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=63747) just in case ;)
slvrstreak 09-21-2011, 01:04 PM that should be stickied :)
ive read a lot of the good FAQ threads and ive never ran across that one
HiFlite999 09-22-2011, 10:19 AM That is a good one that I also missed. Perhaps a "Glossary" heading would help search find it. Searching "SSV" gives 735 hits, one of which is probably that post. Searching "FAQ" and "SSV" gives one hit, and it's not that one.
The answer to most any RX-8 related question is in the Forum somewhere - finding it oftentimes ain't so easy.
bse50 09-22-2011, 10:22 AM A volunteer could create a huge FAQ - Troubleshooting thread with links to the most relevant issues...
It could be stickied under every subforum etc.
AkursedX 09-23-2011, 12:47 PM Well I'm very happy to see that my input was accepted rather graciously. The more I read this board, the more difficult I find it to post questions, because it seriously seem like EVERY topic has been covered! And the some of the FAQ's here are so in-depth and detailed. I've learned a ton just in the short time since my last post. I already have a pretty clear path set forth for my RX8 once I buy it.
And yes, I can understand why someone would find the wealth of information overwhelming. In today's world of information in bits of 180 characters or less, I think many people don't bother to read some of the larger FAQ's found here. I really can't offer a useful solution though. The information is there for those who are willing to read.
that seems redundant :yelrotflm
i kid, i kid :)
Hehe, you would be surprised. The largest Fiero board, www.fiero.nl probably gets as much traffic as this board does. The board I moderate at is pretty dead nowadays with only ~3-5 posts a day.
Jedi54 09-23-2011, 12:50 PM In today's world of information in bits of 180 characters or less,
RX8Club twitter page!!! :scared::rollingla:wallbash::yelrotflm
he largest Fiero board, www.fiero.nl probably gets as much traffic as this board does. The board I moderate at is pretty dead nowadays with only ~3-5 posts a day.
I miss my Fiero. :(
RX8Soldier 09-23-2011, 12:52 PM A volunteer could create a huge FAQ - Troubleshooting thread with links to the most relevant issues...
It could be stickied under every subforum etc.
^This
I've thought about it, but it takes time.
I know FungsterRacing had a good start on "Starting Issues" and "Misfire Issues" threads. Those 2 should be stickied
EDIT: and I think that this video should be part of a package to everyone signing up an account
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9q2jNjOPdk&feature=player_embedded
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