View Full Version : It's time for guess the automaker!


Ike
02-19-2004, 11:28 PM
Guess the automaker that came up with this concept, no cheating and trying to look it up. If you know the answer keep it to yourself for a bit :)

WHealy
02-19-2004, 11:30 PM
Ike,

I'll keep it to myself ... :)

RX8_GT
02-19-2004, 11:40 PM
Subaru ? - John

Ike
02-19-2004, 11:43 PM
Nope, I love Subaru and all but hell would freeze over if they ever built a car that beautiful :p

RX8_GT
02-19-2004, 11:45 PM
Kia ?

Senseny
02-19-2004, 11:47 PM
Volkswagon? Whoever came up with that puppy, my hat is off to em. Hope it gets built. Is that a 16 cylinder or something ridiculous., which leads me to my second guess of Cadillac.
Sorry for two guesses, but I couldn't help it.

Ike
02-19-2004, 11:56 PM
Not a 16 Cylinder, nor a Caddie or VW.

Aratinga
02-20-2004, 12:07 AM
Does it start with an A or a B?

Ike
02-20-2004, 12:23 AM
Nope :p

Ike
02-20-2004, 12:33 AM
This car took less than a year to design from top to bottom and is not just a concept but a road going prototype.

TiRX8
02-20-2004, 12:35 AM
I know it! Shall I provide the answer??

Aratinga
02-20-2004, 12:37 AM
Okay... so i've ruled out Audi, Aston-Martin, and Bugatti.

C'mon Ike... gimme a hint!

Ike
02-20-2004, 12:37 AM
Here's a bit of a hint, it has a V12.

Ike
02-20-2004, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by TiRX8
I know it! Shall I provide the answer??

Nah, a few people already know, lets see if anyone can guess it :)

kratley
02-20-2004, 12:58 AM
Hummer?

Ike
02-20-2004, 01:47 AM
Another hint before bed, the prototype has a 7 speed auto tranny. :(

6speed8
02-20-2004, 02:00 AM
Chrysler Me-12 (or something like that)

bubble
02-20-2004, 02:12 AM
I'm suprised you guys don't know this. Do you guys keep up with auto shows?

Ike
02-20-2004, 02:23 AM
Well, that wasn't really a guess now was it...

Oh well, yes, it's a Chrysler ME-four-twelve, which stands for it's AMG developed Quad-Turbo 12 cylinder. This 850bhp/850lb-ft, 2880 lbs, mid engine, RWD monster is projected to go 0-60 mph in 2.9 seconds, 0-100 mph in 6.2 seconds and the quarter mile in 10.6 seconds at 142.0 mph, with a top speed of 248 mph.

DisneyDestroyer
02-20-2004, 11:15 AM
stop, please, you're making me drool

Sue Esponte
02-20-2004, 11:24 AM
Come on...this one has been in every mag this past month. It's a Chrysler ME412....ME = mid engine, 4 = turbos, 12 = cyl.

-Eric

Ike
02-20-2004, 02:11 PM
Not everyone reads the mags here so I thought I would share it. There's rumors that the car will actually make it into production. If that happens I'm going to have to carry my spankerchief with me in case I ever see one on the road :p

Sue Esponte
02-20-2004, 03:12 PM
no no no, I was just surprised that so many people didn't get the answer! :D

And, just for fun, can anyone guess this distant cousin (?) Mystery car?

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4dc01b3127cceb8b8b38bfc230000001610

-Eric

AutoBahnRX8
02-20-2004, 03:24 PM
I guess I'm late to this post, but wasn't this car (that started this thread) on the cover of a VERY popular car mag? Ummmm yeah I know what it is LOL

As far as the pic above............ wow, looks like the bastard child of an old Fiat and early SAAB

eccles
02-20-2004, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by Sue Esponte
And, just for fun, can anyone guess this distant cousin (?) Mystery car?

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4dc01b3127cceb8b8b38bfc230000001610Is that a Goggomobile?

Astor
02-20-2004, 03:32 PM
I knew what it was, Chrysler is thinking about producing this car to compete with the Ford GT, the above car looks like a Fiat.

Ike
02-20-2004, 03:36 PM
The people that had the answer were supposed to be quiet :p

Mazda R360?

WHealy
02-20-2004, 03:36 PM
There's some additional good shots of it on this page. (http://www.xenonmods.com/2004autoshow/)

Ike
02-20-2004, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by eccles
Is that a Goggomobile?

Was that a nickname for the R360? Did it come from the name Toyo Kogyo?

Sue Esponte
02-20-2004, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by IkeWRX
The people that had the answer were supposed to be quiet :p

Mazda R360?

DING DING DING....very nice!

Actually took the pic off of an old eBay auction. Looks like the poor thing had been abused for quite awhile.

Sorry about blurting the answer before :D

-Eric

racerdave
02-20-2004, 04:02 PM
That Chrysler is actually estimated to go for like 200K more than the Ford GT.

The Ford GT actually almost seems like a bargain in comparison! :)

But the GT is about *pure* sports/race car performance. It's a race car for the road.

The Chrysler seems like an incredibly potent sports car that's also luxurious.

I like the Ford better. It's based off of one of the best sports cars (racing terms) of all time.

eccles
02-20-2004, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by IkeWRX
Was that a nickname for the R360? Did it come from the name Toyo Kogyo? no, I was on the wrong track entirely. the Goggomobile was a car model from the late 50's and early 60's. Goggo, erm, Google for more. :)

Ike
02-20-2004, 04:47 PM
Here's a fun one, I left the emblem on out of pure laziness though. So someone will get it soon enough :p

zoom44
02-20-2004, 04:51 PM
could you circle the emblem ike?

eccles
02-20-2004, 04:53 PM
Hmm... Lancia?

Ike
02-20-2004, 04:53 PM
I guess it is a little hidden, and to answer your question, no. :p

Ike
02-20-2004, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by eccles
Hmm... Lancia?

Nope, but good guess.

eccles
02-20-2004, 04:55 PM
Good Lord, it didn't start life as a Z, did it?

TM45
02-20-2004, 05:00 PM
This car was featured in a recent issue of Road and Track. I was very surprised that is is a Chrysler.

Ike
02-20-2004, 05:00 PM
Hints: It once ran at Le Mans, and they built cars with a wooden chassis.

eccles
02-20-2004, 05:03 PM
That'd make it a Morgan then.

Ike
02-20-2004, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by eccles
That'd make it a Morgan then.

Nope :)

Ike
02-20-2004, 05:30 PM
They also made this car.

Doctorr
02-20-2004, 05:43 PM
My guess would be 'made in Blackpool' around 1970....?
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DemonRX-8
02-20-2004, 05:56 PM
Chrysler, I think.

DemonRX-8
02-20-2004, 05:57 PM
Oops, missed pages 2 and 3! :) Sorry, carry on.

neit_jnf
02-20-2004, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by IkeWRX
Another hint before bed, the prototype has a 7 speed auto tranny. :(

I saw the car at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit (NAIAS) ! Took a lot of pics but they're too big. And it's a SMG 7-speed, NOT AUTOMATIC...

Ike
02-20-2004, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by Doctorr
My guess would be 'made in Blackpool' around 1970....?
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Nope, not a TVR, but you have the right country :)

Ike
02-20-2004, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by neit_jnf
I saw the car at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit (NAIAS) ! Took a lot of pics but they're too big. And it's a SMG 7-speed, NOT AUTOMATIC...

It's a 7 speed ricardo automatic, one that shifts in 200 milliseconds, but an auto none the less.. I think it's pretty safe to say even if I'm wrong it doesn't have a BMW tranny in it, and the SMG is still an auto.

Fab 8
02-20-2004, 08:14 PM
Thats a Marcos!

eccles
02-20-2004, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by Fab 8
Thats a Marcos! No, http://www.psy.plym.ac.uk/year3/psy364emotions/imelda-marcos.jpg that's a Marcos! :p

Ike
02-20-2004, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by Fab 8
Thats a Marcos!

Ding!

Fab 8
02-20-2004, 09:00 PM
Ah, Imelda with one of her few thousand pairs of shoes! :D

murix
02-20-2004, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by IkeWRX
It's a 7 speed ricardo automatic, one that shifts in 200 milliseconds, but an auto none the less.. I think it's pretty safe to say even if I'm wrong it doesn't have a BMW tranny in it, and the SMG is still an auto.

It is a manual. It has a double clutch hydraulicaly activated instead of manually. It has all the advantages of both a manual and an automatic, but it is still a manual.

The first application of a double clutch system is in the new Audi TT V6 which they call DSG.

The transmission is a Ricardo, hence the name Ricardo, who are the same people that supply the 6 speed sequential used in the Audi R8 racecar.

Oh, the word on the street is the ME412 is going to see limited production of 300 units/year starting in 2006. This is supposedly a prototype and not a concept.

Ike
02-20-2004, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by murix
It is a manual. It has a double clutch hydraulicaly activated instead of manually. It has all the advantages of both a manual and an automatic, but it is still a manual.

The first application of a double clutch system is in the new Audi TT V6 which they call DSG.

The transmission is a Ricardo, hence the name Ricardo, who are the same people that supply the 6 speed sequential used in the Audi R8 racecar.

Oh, the word on the street is the ME412 is going to see limited production of 300 units/year starting in 2006. This is supposedly a prototype and not a concept.

Hence not manually activated, therefore an automatic. I'm not saying it isn't a good auto, nor that it's not better than a manual time wise. But you will never get the same driving feeling you will with a manual. Just because it has a clutch doesn't make at a manual, just like the SMG is an auto.

Ike

Overport
02-21-2004, 01:58 PM
Chrysler ME-Four Twelve concept.....240 on top, thats all i got to say.:D

neit_jnf
02-21-2004, 04:56 PM
It IS manually activated via steering wheel paddle shifters but it also has an auto mode for lazy driving. It just doesn't have a clutch pedal so it is not "foot activated" :p

Would you call all F1, SMG, etc clutchless transmissions automatics? Is the Enzo an automatic?

Ike
02-21-2004, 05:16 PM
If it doesn't have a clutch that you have to engage and disengage to manually shift it, yes. How bout we settle on semi-automatic since that would be a more fitting description for the Enzo, SMG, F1, Ricardo.

neit_jnf
02-21-2004, 05:21 PM
Deal

Semi-automatic then. I always like getting to a "happy-medium"


why not semi-manual? :D

Ike
02-21-2004, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by neit_jnf
Deal

Semi-automatic then. I always like getting to a "happy-medium"


why not semi-manual? :D

Because it would be insulting to manuals :p