I test drove an 8 today. All I can say is this is the most refined, inspiring, and thrilling car I have ever driven. The fit and finish of this car in and out is just superb. Letting out the clutch that first time was such a rush. Pulling onto the highway the sales guy looks over at me and laughs at the shit eating grin on my face and says, "that is a familiar facial expression during a person's first drive". Needless to say, as soon as finances are a little better I am getting one. I can't wait. I am truely envious of all you guys and gals who already have them. One thing I found interesting is after reading these boards for a few days, I expected the sales guy to gloss over the whole flooding thing. But he came right out and said, if you don't drive it right, it'll flood. Also I don't know if he was just stupid or not but I was nder the impression that a flooded engine was flooded with fuel. He said the renesis engine is similiar to a marine engine. It injects oil on start up to lubricate the inner and outter rotors, and that's what is auctually flooding. Too much oil, not fuel. I know that this topic has been beat to death on this forum, but can anyone either confirm or deny if it's oil flooding or fuel????

It's definitely not oil, just fuel.

I can give the salesman credit for being up-front over the issue, but what he knows came from their sales kit, which he read last week. (Most of them will also mention 'not to use synthetic oil' because it makes them seem knowledgeable. Then they have to make up a reason why not......)
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I never had the chance to test drive one. I preordered it. First time to drive it was off the lot. I have not regreted one minute of it. Glad you liked the car. It is a blast to drive.

vmiller6,
your salesman knows not of what he speaks.

Originally posted by vmiller6
I test drove an 8 today. All I can say is this is the most refined, inspiring, and thrilling car I have ever driven. The fit and finish of this car in and out is just superb. Letting out the clutch that first time was such a rush. Pulling onto the highway the sales guy looks over at me and laughs at the shit eating grin on my face and says, "that is a familiar facial expression during a person's first drive". Needless to say, as soon as finances are a little better I am getting one. I can't wait. I am truely envious of all you guys and gals who already have them. One thing I found interesting is after reading these boards for a few days, I expected the sales guy to gloss over the whole flooding thing. But he came right out and said, if you don't drive it right, it'll flood. Also I don't know if he was just stupid or not but I was nder the impression that a flooded engine was flooded with fuel. He said the renesis engine is similiar to a marine engine. It injects oil on start up to lubricate the inner and outter rotors, and that's what is auctually flooding. Too much oil, not fuel. I know that this topic has been beat to death on this forum, but can anyone either confirm or deny if it's oil flooding or fuel????

Welcome to the club!

Originally posted by Jump120MPH
I never had the chance to test drive one. I preordered it. First time to drive it was off the lot. I have not regreted one minute of it. Glad you liked the car. It is a blast to drive.

That took some balls! A friend of mine was looking into an SRT-4 but the dealer wouldn't let him test drive it when we went to look at it. He had already been there twice and negotiated the price. I was like WTF?! We're not some punk kids looking to go on a joy ride and he was absolutely serious about buying the car. I told him to walk, and we did.

pre-ordering doesn't take any balls.. but sometimes a refundable deposit ;)

once you've completed the paper work AND drive it off the lot, only then is the purchase finalized. And even then I believe there is something in the law that will allow you to change your mind shortly afterwards. Can't remember what it was, perhaps somebody can elaborate?

But anyway, that isn't to say you can't "test drive" your car when it comes in...

Best way to get salesmen to believe you is to just tag along with a friend who drives a very nice car.

But anyway, that isn't to say you can't "test drive" your car when it comes in...

Best way to get salesmen to believe you is to just tag along with a friend who drives a very nice car.

...but the point is that you shouldn't have to.

Originally posted by DemonRX-8
That took some balls! A friend of mine was looking into an SRT-4 but the dealer wouldn't let him test drive it when we went to look at it. He had already been there twice and negotiated the price. I was like WTF?! We're not some punk kids looking to go on a joy ride and he was absolutely serious about buying the car. I told him to walk, and we did. Yeah I was alittle nervous about it at first, but I said screw it I WANT it bad. I had only seen a few in person and sat in them. I never even saw my color until I went in to buy it. I got the first Blue one in Oklahoma. When I walked in and saw my car sitting on the show room with my name one it, oh man I couldnt sign the papers fast enough.

I DON'T want this to turn into a flooding post but I do have just 1 very simple question. I once owned a civic and was told to open her up often to keep the plugs from becoming fouled up. When she turned 100,000 I replaced the plugs per the manual and found them to be virtually spotless. Would this be the same for the 8? If so wouldn't that keep from running into a no start up prob??

Yeah, i have also heard that opening up the 8 will help keep the plugs clear. On the week i mostly drive it for milage but on the weekend i let it loose. :)

I get to put down the $500 deposit to order mine on friday. I'll be picking it up sometime after March 5th hopefully. I'm excited. I haven't driven stick in 8 years and when I test drove the manual it was a little rough, lol.
I got my friend to take me out and practice in his 350Z today. I want my RX...

Originally posted by Ajax
I'm excited. I haven't driven stick in 8 years and when I test drove the manual it was a little rough, lol.


Congrats Ajax, you'll love this car. I also had not driven a stick for many years, and I still remember my first test drive. I had a hard time finding reverse, and stalled it in fourth. Not a single shift was what I would call smooth. I think it took 2 to 3 days after I got my car before I was as good as I was 10 years ago, and I know I didn't damage my tranny relearning. It really is alot like riding a bike, you don't really lose the skill, you're just not as expert as you were.

This is another reason not to buy a demo. The 8's target audience is at the right age and other demographics such that more buyers will test drive it coming from a string of automatics, than will test drive a two seater like the z or s2000 also coming from a string of automatics.

Originally posted by Squidward


once you've completed the paper work AND drive it off the lot, only then is the purchase finalized. And even then I believe there is something in the law that will allow you to change your mind shortly afterwards. Can't remember what it was, perhaps somebody can elaborate?

Under Section 2-608 of the Uniform Commercial Code, revocation of acceptance is provided as an extraordinary remedy to a car buyer. The remedy is available only when the product's non-conformity substantially impairs the product value to the buyer. While "substantially impairs" is an undefined term, the courts are given wide discretion in this area. The issue is to be judged from the perspective of the buyer, and might well include consideration of diminished value, as well as market value. The UCC clearly provides that revocation must be taken within a reasonable time after the buyer discovers or should have discovered the ground for it and before any substantial change in the condition of the goods which is not caused by their own defects. It is possible to contest revocation on the theory that although the condition of the car may not have changed much in the physical sense, its value on the marketplace will already have declined appreciably since it is a second hand car. However, if a buyer is successful in revoking acceptance, he is entitled to have refunded the entire retail price plus perceived monetary damages.

I've been doing some home work for my situation about my purchase problems.

It's a messy deal to try to return a car for refund once you sign the papers and drive it over the curb (off the lot).

sadly, my first bad experience with the RX8 was the dealers trying to sell me the demo car off the lot with 2000 miles on it for 32.5(automatic with just the sport package) when i have a fully loaded 6 speed quoted at 30,500(approx) from the same dealership. I don't like dealerships. They're evil.

Originally posted by DemonRX-8
That took some balls! A friend of mine was looking into an SRT-4 but the dealer wouldn't let him test drive it when we went to look at it. He had already been there twice and negotiated the price. I was like WTF?! We're not some punk kids looking to go on a joy ride and he was absolutely serious about buying the car. I told him to walk, and we did.
yea... some dealers are a-holes when they see a younger person ask for a test drive. A few months back I went to a mercedes dealer wanting to test drive a CLK. The sales told me in a pretty "higher than thou" tone that "we don't give test drives at mercedes, people buying one usually just put a deposite down and when the order comes in they could either take it or get their deposite back. Have you owned a mercedes before?" and I was like WTF?!!?!? Basically I told the guy no, I'm not ready to put a deposite down for car that I can't even test drive and my dad never had to pay a deposite when he got their S class and walked before he could dirty my ear with anymore BS. And 2 weeks later, my mom (without telling me that she's going to the same dealership) went and TEST DROVE and ordered a ML350 from that same dealership. When I go to pick it up with my mom in a few weeks, I am going to raise hell with their manager.
Good for your friend, when he gets another car, he should go back and let the sales manager know what kinda sales they could've made.
and welcome to the club vmiller6 :)
think of the delay to getting one as an incentive to get the 250hp '05 version :D

250 hp '05 version? I hope you're making that up! :b

If you aren't, i'm going to be very annoyed.

Not all dealers are evil. It pays to shop around. If you get one who isn't trying to make you happy - walk away. You probably don't want to try to deal with them after the sale either.

Vmiller8 and Ajax, congrats on your soon-to-be RX-8s! Sounds like you guys have got the bug most of us on this board have, and no other car will do. :D

Yea.. I can't wait to drive off the lot and stall the car :b

I CAN'T WAIT