need new pads and rotors, front and back, need a good place to buy them from, my dealership is charing me about 900 bucks for all of them, but.. HA, tried searching, but didnt yield much results, any help would be appreciated.

I have two sets of front pads:

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=188627

pm me if interested: 40CAD picked up.

For rotors, post a WTB add in the general buy/sell section

I just ordered stop tech rotors for my 8 from JRP.

Give them a try:

http://www.jrponline.com/index.asp

Could this be too good to be true? autopartsway.ca has rear discs (Winhere) for $35 EACH!! (Regular $145)

The very cheapest rotors are often prone to warping quickly, but IMO there's zero reason to rely on a dealership for parts like rotors. Call around to local autoparts stores for prices (partsource, Napa, carquest, crappy tire, etc.).

I was at my dealership the other day to get my safety done...they said i needed new rotors AND brakes and charged me 900 hundred as well, but in fact i only needed to change my rear brakes (which we did ourselves...) and wen we went back, everything was fine...so just check to see if you really need the new rotors or if that's just what the dealership's telling you :) i'm sure you don't want to switch them unless you have to

I'm at 63,000km. I have about 40% pad life left on stock pads that came with new car :)

I think mine are the stock ones....still pretty good....I have less kms then Footman and my car was one of the first ones to arrive in Canada... my 8's production date was Jan 2004....lolz

I'm going to change the whole brake set (pads and rotors) next year....
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Ford Elite Specifications (http://www.ford-wiki.com/wiki/Ford_Elite)

Just to add to a thread they were already mentioned, I just put Stop Tech slotted rotors (not drilled) to my fronts and using stock pads. Eventually I'll do the rear, but my mechanic said no need to since rotors and pads are fine at the back. It is nice when one's mechanic isn't trying to sell you work you don't need.

If you need Pads and Rotors check out this guy (if you live in the GTA)

ACU High Performance Auto Parts & Services
647.886.0308

Cross Drilled Silver Zync Ceramics

If you need Pads and Rotors check out this guy (if you live in the GTA)

ACU High Performance Auto Parts & Services
647.886.0308

Cross Drilled Silver Zync Ceramics

Just to add to a thread they were already mentioned, I just put Stop Tech slotted rotors (not drilled) to my fronts and using stock pads. Eventually I'll do the rear, but my mechanic said no need to since rotors and pads are fine at the back. It is nice when one's mechanic isn't trying to sell you work you don't need.



Hey how are those rotors woring out for you? My front rotors are warped and I dont think I want to resurface them again. So i am thinking of ordering new rotors and getting the mazdaspeed pads all around.....Any advide/suggestions would be appreciated!

Dba 4000

Dba 4000



thanks, I'll look into it. Also, I was told by a local machine shop that sometimes rotors don't come 100% even from the maker and he suggests that I get them resurfaced before installing them. Do you guys know much about this, or is he just trying to make a few bux?
THX!

Check out centric blanks on rock auto. I posted in the comp section looking for cheap blanks and could not find a better deal. www.rockauto.com.

thought i'd jump in here..
look into Right Tech Auto....pretty sure they'll be able to order the rotors and pads for you at a decent price

http://www.righttech.ca/

Cheers

Dba 4000


Thanks for everyones help and suggestions. I just got a killer deal on DBA 4000 rotors on Tire Rack $217 for both front L&R with shipping. They had a closeout and only had a few of the fronts left. I am now searching to find the rears for a decent price-Anutoanything has them for like $147 ea I will probably go with that.

Any of you guys use HAWK brake pads??---I am thinking of ordering the HPS.

Yeah, I saw that at Tirerack too. I would have been there before you BlueWankel, but I changed my mind at the last minute.

The reason they are close-outs is because DBA just released the new Clubspec T3 4000 series. Supposed to be an improved design. Also no more need for left and right anymore. So the price dropped on the old model to clear them out.

Also, after comparing several prices... stock rotors are going for $377 tax-in, for ALL FOUR in Toronto, so I think I'm just going to go with stock rotors. They're not bad.

RacingBrake open slot set is like $575 USD shipped from Raceroot, and this is not including any potential duties/tariffs/taxes going across border.

Yeah, I saw that at Tirerack too. I would have been there before you BlueWankel, but I changed my mind at the last minute.

The reason they are close-outs is because DBA just released the new Clubspec T3 4000 series. Supposed to be an improved design. Also no more need for left and right anymore. So the price dropped on the old model to clear them out.

Also, after comparing several prices... stock rotors are going for $377 tax-in, for ALL FOUR in Toronto, so I think I'm just going to go with stock rotors. They're not bad.

RacingBrake open slot set is like $575 USD shipped from Raceroot, and this is not including any potential duties/tariffs/taxes going across border.


$377! is that for Stock OEM from mazda or aftermarket rotors? Also do you know if there is a difference between the auto and manual rotors? I have the sport suspension on mines and it's an auto....

$377 all-in for stock OEM rotors FROM MAZDA DEALERSHIP!!! yes I kid you not muthafucka!! :fruit:

Yeah the auto ones with 16" wheels have smaller front rotors. But don't worry you have the sport suspension in Canada regardless of auto or manual, the same rotors.

At $377 all in, I can't justify paying nearly double in price for DBA or RacingBrake when given the fact that it's my daily driver, and I don't track nearly as much as I want to.

$377 all-in for stock OEM rotors FROM MAZDA DEALERSHIP!!! yes I kid you not muthafucka!! :fruit:

Yeah the auto ones with 16" wheels have smaller front rotors. But don't worry you have the sport suspension in Canada regardless of auto or manual, the same rotors.

At $377 all in, I can't justify paying nearly double in price for DBA or RacingBrake when given the fact that it's my daily driver, and I don't track nearly as much as I want to.


That's a sweet deal. Do you know if that dealership would be willing to ship to California? Would it be possible to provide the info?

The way you are looking at DBA vs OEM Mazda ... I was thinking just the opposite due to the best price I can get around here for OEM Mazda rotors is from Alabama and that was $320 (vs $217 shipped DBA 4000) just for the fronts + Pads were $90 reg. and $145 mazdaspeed... I usually buy my OEM stuff from Alabama (way cheaper) and they ship free if it's over $100. www.buymazdaparts.com (http://www.buymazdaparts.com) Sometimes they have some flex on the online listed prices.

You can get quality rotors & pads from Rotorpros for much cheaper than that.

$377 all-in for stock OEM rotors FROM MAZDA DEALERSHIP!!! yes I kid you not muthafucka!! :fruit:

Yeah the auto ones with 16" wheels have smaller front rotors. But don't worry you have the sport suspension in Canada regardless of auto or manual, the same rotors.

At $377 all in, I can't justify paying nearly double in price for DBA or RacingBrake when given the fact that it's my daily driver, and I don't track nearly as much as I want to.

Why not just get centric premiums from rockauto or the like for about $180 +shipping

$377 all-in for stock OEM rotors FROM MAZDA DEALERSHIP!!! yes I kid you not muthafucka!! :fruit:

Yeah the auto ones with 16" wheels have smaller front rotors. But don't worry you have the sport suspension in Canada regardless of auto or manual, the same rotors.

At $377 all in, I can't justify paying nearly double in price for DBA or RacingBrake when given the fact that it's my daily driver, and I don't track nearly as much as I want to.

Even at that price, I'd still go with the Centric Premium rotors; that's just me. It'd be more of a deal if at that price it also included pads.

EDIT: futz beat me to it.

there is a lot of misleading information in here

The community will sort it out.

there is a lot of misleading information in here

You mean all the talk about uneven pad deposits? I just ignore it and replace it in my head as I gloss over.

that among other things :uhh:

there is a lot of misleading information in here

You mean all the talk about uneven pad deposits? I just ignore it and replace it in my head as I gloss over.

that among other things :uhh:

Oh you guys actually read the thread.

I only responded the price. I didn't want to hurt my fragile brain.

good decision
my IQ dropped 5pts after reading this

Guy, you can't compare Canadian prices to US prices... everything here in Canada is jacked up...

Racing Brake and DBA4000's locally are like $750 for all 4, discs only!!!

You should check out rockauto.com for the Centrics that i mentioned. They ship to Canada, and the exchange rate is almost 1 to 1 right now. Even if they charge you $100 in shipping, it's still cheaper.

No need to compare US prices to Canada prices. :dunno: Maybe i'm missing something and you guys want to spend more money.

FWIW Rosenthal has a full set of OEM rotors for $380+ Shipping, so the prices on those are pretty much the same.

RockAuto shipping to Richmond Hill is $160 o_O

r1 concepts

RockAuto shipping to Richmond Hill is $160 o_O

Ouch.

Again... $377 for 4 OEM rotors (full set) all-in local price in Toronto is pretty good already.

I'd still look for a semi-local place that sells Centric stuff. IMHO they are a better rotor and a better buy, even at the same price point.

If you want the OEM, go for it. I was just trying to help you guys out on what you were spending. Feel free to but what you like. Ain't gonna hurt me or my wallet.

How are centric premiums better than OEM rotors?

I'm in the market for new pads and rotors too. A little late since my car doesn't actually stop in emergencies. I was quoted like 700$ for a set of DBA Fronts only! I just checked the Tirerack and their DBA's are gone.

Anyways I'm thinking I might go with the EBC rotors with Hawk HP Plus. Any suggestions or reasons not to?

I did all the fucking homework for all y'all lazy bastards in Toronto recently....

Pricing is for all 4 rotors, all-in price.

STOCK OEM Rotors: $378
Racing Brake (open slot, curved vanes): $650
DBA 4000: $750

How are centric premiums better than OEM rotors?

A little lighter, better surface finish, black lifelong finish on the hats, and most likely a better material blend. Ask some of the autox guys what they prefer. Not to mention that they're almost half the price. Granted shipping from rockauto kills it, but they aren't the only place to get them.

Powerslot and StopTech start out with centric blanks (actually they are owned by Centric) before doing their slotting and/or drilling. I believe RotorPros uses them as well.

Like I said, I'm just trying to help you guys save a few bucks. I'm done with it. I don't give a fuck what you waste your money on. I'm suddenly remembering why i stick to the lounge more often than not.

try Ebay, i found a set of 4 rotors crossdrilled and slotted with the pads for 187.00


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mazda-RX-8-RX8-Drilled-Slotted-Brake-Rotors-Pads-F-R-/220932537561?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3ARX-8&vxp=mtr&hash=item33709afcd9

hope this helps...
Juan

yes rotorpros uses centric as well
please educate yourselves so you can make an informed, educated decision :icon_no2:

Same for me too, I just went to Scarboro Mazda for an oil change, and they said my front rotors and pads are due..... (only 2mm left on the front pads, the rear pads are fine), and they quote me $847 for just the FRONT rotors and pads, not including the rear rotor and pads.... I am at 34,5xxkm on my 2007 RX-8.

I dont know why theres so much hate going around... I think the OP just wanted some help picking rotors and pads and some others chimed in with their knowledge. I've been asking everywhere locally for prices and many different people on their experiences over here in Toronto but everyone seems to have their own oppinion. Ive asked from the civic guys, to the lancer guys, all the way to the fanboys and everyone is different. Lets just gather our information as a community and get us the most informed decision. :) :) :)

^ lol man everyone here needs some Paxil :P

I thought about getting HP+ like you darklight - but I've read and seen a lot of vids of the horrific squeaking it makes during a daily drive ! I bought HPS's from NextMod for $145 (pretty good price at least based on the quotes I was getting from around town).

I'm still undecided on the rotors - footman did a lot of the research for us by calling around different retailers and the impression I'm getting is its still fairly pricey than what others here are implying they have gotten it for. I'll see if my local guy can find anything on centric rotors - though I've never heard of them until today ; time to do some readin and askin around !

I got my rotors from R1concepts and I was happy, overall. They were inexpensive. I have the carbotech bobcat 1521 pads and like them more than the hp+, less squeaky.

Ivan's now selling stoptech prodcuts. So I am asking him now on a bunch ofcentrics and powerslot and crying versions. I will post later. So far the centric premiums are $330 all in.

^ 330 is sounding good right now. Keep us posted!

Thank you!

Here is my receipt for centric rotors from rock auto. I shipped to Detroit so no customs or extra shipping fees. They are just as good for street use as the oem stuff (fine for the track as well).

CAD is pretty strong right now.

Part Number Part Type Price EA Core EA Quantity Total
2005 MAZDA RX-8 1.3L 1308cc R2 FI
CENTRIC 12045072 (120.45072) Rotor CAD$ 36.71 CAD$ 0.00 2 CAD$ 73.42
CENTRIC 12045071 (120.45071) Rotor CAD$ 53.22 CAD$ 0.00 2 CAD$ 106.44
Shipping Ground (FedEx or UPS) CAD$ 24.05
Order Total CAD$ 203.91

^ thats not bad - but you shipped to Detroit? I will easily use more than $100 in fuel, oil, wear and tear (not to mention taking time out of my day) to drive from Toronto to Detroit and then drive back just to grab it... $330 from Ivan makes more sense for us in the GTA.

Centric seems to have some street cred with a lot of guys so ... I guess I'll be going with that then :P

^ thats not bad - but you shipped to Detroit? I will easily use more than $100 in fuel, oil, wear and tear (not to mention taking time out of my day) to drive from Toronto to Detroit and then drive back just to grab it... $330 from Ivan makes more sense for us in the GTA.

Centric seems to have some street cred with a lot of guys so ... I guess I'll be going with that then :P

Driving from Toronto to Detroit to pick up rotors does not make any sense [not sure where you got that idea]. I lived in Windsor at the time and getting to Detroit was pretty easy.

Driving from Toronto to Detroit to pick up rotors does not make any sense [not sure where you got that idea]. I lived in Windsor at the time and getting to Detroit was pretty easy.

oh absolutely; wasn't from your post ; its just a few out-of-towners were posting earlier they were positive it could be acquired cheaper than what we're currently looking at when it really doesnt seem to be possible.

someone already eluded that shipping to York Region would be $160 alone in S&H so ... unless I start working in Windsor in the next few months I'll just have to settle with picking it up from the shop 5 mins from my house :)

You found the rotors held up pretty okay for track use though eh?

oh absolutely; wasn't from your post ; its just a few out-of-towners were posting earlier they were positive it could be acquired cheaper than what we're currently looking at when it really doesnt seem to be possible.

someone already eluded that shipping to York Region would be $160 alone in S&H so ... unless I start working in Windsor in the next few months I'll just have to settle with picking it up from the shop 5 mins from my house :)

You found the rotors held up pretty okay for track use though eh?

If shipping to Toronto is 160$ than ordering from rockauto does not make sense. And if you can get oem, made in Japan rotors for 377$ and centric premiums for 330$, I would prefer the oems for track use. I paid 200$ for my rotors and at the time I could not find anything close to $377 for oem rotors.

Generally centric premium rotors are fine for track use - your pads will play a much greater role.

PRICE UPDATE.... (Looks like my dealership made a mistake on the price. It's correct now)

All prices for set of 4, tax-in.

STOCK OEM Rotors (Genuine Mazda Japan parts): $508
Racing Brake (open slot, curved vanes): $650
DBA 4000: $750
Centric premiums: $330
Ghetto-ass Made-in-china cheap (but still works): $200
Powerslot Cryo-treated rotors (slotted): $660


So now we have some real decisions to make!

PRICE UPDATE.... (Looks like my dealership made a mistake on the price. It's correct now)

All prices for set of 4, tax-in.

STOCK OEM Rotors (Genuine Mazda Japan parts): $508
Racing Brake (open slot, curved vanes): $650
DBA 4000: $750
Centric premiums: $330
Ghetto-ass Made-in-china cheap (but still works): $200
Powerslot Cryo-treated rotors (slotted): $660


So now we have some real decisions to make!

At those prices, I would go with the centric premium rotors + Make it a DIY and save even more cash.

Unless you want to set lap records those will do just fine.

Thanks for all the info but where did you get the quote for the centrics from? I'm probably going to go there. I was thinking the racing brakes because of the reduced weight and track use advantages but unless I can get a group buy or something on them it feels like I'm spoiling myself if I buy them, lol.

Go to my friend Ivan at iGarage. You can find him on Facebook, search for "iGarage Auto Services". Centrics for $330 from him. I do my work there (oil, fluids, brakes, etc...) and so does CL_S, Ka Kui, Druggist and some others.

PM him and tell him I sent you, you might as well get them installed there too.

I'm currently debating between Centric Premiums and DBA Clubspec T3 4000's

^ you guys dont go to scarb mazda anymore ? :P

yeah Ivan at iGarage is efficient and affordable - did a lot of good work on my car with less hassle than the dealership! Im putting my money down for centric premiums - seems like its the most affordable equivalent to OEM rotors (need to save $$$ for rims and tires this season!).

Well I just stopped by iGarage today to order the Centrics and Hawk HP Plus pads.

Funny note is when I got there I saw Footman's facebook open on Ivan's computer. Footman and Ivan must be in cahoots... Lol

yeah Ivan at iGarage is efficient and affordable - did a lot of good work on my car with less hassle than the dealership! Im putting my money down for centric premiums - seems like its the most affordable equivalent to OEM rotors (need to save $$$ for rims and tires this season!).

:icon_no2:

what happened to doing it yourself? :p

Footman and Ivan are high school friends, and he can be very well trusted for your rx8 repair/maintenance needs!!! Good price gauranteed.

I'm soon ordering the DBA Clubspec T3 4000's from him!

Is Ivan a rotary specialist ?? Has he worked on alot of rotaries ?? Im thinking of starting to get my maintenance done by him.

^ lol footman you might be alone on the rotors after all - cls wants to measure his rotors too ; considering machining them if they are still in tip top shape like mine. you'll have the most ballin rotors out of all of us :D

I have obtained engineering documents of the DBA Clubspec T3 4000 rotors for the RX-8.

Front OEM rotors: 18.5 Lbs
DBA's: 17.60 Lbs
Weight saving: 4.86% or 0.9 Lbs

Rear OEM rotors: 12.5 Lbs
DBA's: 11.88 Lbs
Weight saving: 4.96% or 0.62 Lbs

I won't get into the engineering comparisons of a lighter weight rotors because that would also depend on the uniformity in which the weight is distributed, along with the construction material. There are simply too many variables because the OEM rotor's material composition is certainly not the same as DBA's rotors. I'm simply going to let people judge how they want to see it. I am presenting data.

^ you guys dont go to scarb mazda anymore ? :P

Not to say anything bad about Scarbo Mazda here, but last time I went for oil change, and they said my brake pads only have 2mm left, and it is EXTREMELY dangerous to drive, they said. Then they said I need to change rotor + pads right away, and quoted me $950-ish..... Then I am like, wow, my RX-8 only has 34,xxxkm, already need new rotors? I end up went to iGarage (Thanks for Footman's referral), then changed to Hawk Pads HPS. Ivan at iGarage said my stock pads are still fine, not really that EXTREMELY dangerous to drive with. Still have quite alot of life on the pads until I need replacement. That's my recent experience with Scarbo Mazda.

^ Ka Kui i had a similar experience. They said my pads were thin as well and need to get replaced asap. At that time i didnt know shit about rotors and pads and was freaking out cause they said it was dangerous as well. Then at work during my break this mechanic from the VW dealer beside my work was having a smoke and asked him to have a look. He measured them and said they were fine for like another 5000 km.

^ Exactly, not sure why they doing this..... I am sure my stock pads can last 5,000km or more as well.... anyhow, cuz of them, I forced myself to change to Hawk pads now, and kind of feel bad, since I know my stock pads are still fine for now..... (Would rather spend money on FD for Spring preparation)

Ivan is not a rotary specialist, but he can take care of all the usual maintenance items such as oil change, fluid flush, radiator flush, brakes/pads/coolant, wheel stuff... etc.. etc...

And for all those things I mentioned, they are not "rotary specific", so all you need is a really good trustworthy mechanic that won't screw you over.

Down to the rotary specific stuff, you have the forum and other people like me, there's only so much you can do.. ignition coils/plugs/starter/battery/seafoam/intake.. and those I and others here can easily do and can help you.

So when it comes down to the really rotary specific stuff i.e. INSIDE THE HOUSING, if you're at that point of the condition of you car, you probably need to take it to Mazmart/Mazdees or someone like that to rebuild it for you.

For everything else, there's Ivan @ iGarage 905-471-8595, mention my referral to get best prices/service.

...And no I am not receiving any commission or referral fees, simply doing a great recommendation for people.

Yes, I have a digital caliper, last week I measured Druggist's rotors and determined that he didn't need new ones, he just needed them turned to get rid of pad deposits.

If you want your calipers measured, come out to a wash meet or something and I'll do it for you.

For reference:
Front rotor MAX/MIN: 24.0mm / 22.0mm
Rear rotor MAX/MIN: 18.0mm / 16.0mm

I have lots of other tools to help too, like battery tester, and an amp clamp so I could see if your alternator is putting out the right amount of current...

Jesus Footman, where do you get all these fancy toys? :P

:icon_no2:

what happened to doing it yourself? :p

lol Im a lazy, lazy man...

In my defense, I have a shopping list of things to do to the car!!! so I figured instead of asking iGarage to do a few things, might as well get him to do everything if I go there anyways :P

Yes - I highly suggest you guys measure out the rotors before changing - mine are still at factory thickness so I'm no longer buying new rotors but rather getting the shop to just machine it for me to get rid of all the glaze and crap built on it.

I have obtained engineering documents of the DBA Clubspec T3 4000 rotors for the RX-8.

Front OEM rotors: 18.5 Lbs
DBA's: 17.60 Lbs
Weight saving: 4.86% or 0.9 Lbs

Rear OEM rotors: 12.5 Lbs
DBA's: 11.88 Lbs
Weight saving: 4.96% or 0.62 Lbs

I won't get into the engineering comparisons of a lighter weight rotors because that would also depend on the uniformity in which the weight is distributed, along with the construction material. There are simply too many variables because the OEM rotor's material composition is certainly not the same as DBA's rotors. I'm simply going to let people judge how they want to see it. I am presenting data.

I got a crazy good deal on DBA Rotors and hawk hps pads..braking has improved, the pads make only a bit of noise when you come to.a stop and go..duration maybe 2-3 seconds.. So far I am impressed with the quality and braking improvement..i need to.flush my brake fluid and then it will be even better.