View Full Version : Supercharger on an 09
michaelsk8er 10-06-2009, 09:24 AM Will this Supercharger work on an 09? I emailed Pettit and still have not gotten a response.
I would assume since it is the same engine as the other 6 ports it will work. The only tricky part could be the ECU and engine management since it is now different. Does anyone know or can Pettit chime in?
I'm willing to test if need be. Hehehe.
olddragger 10-06-2009, 09:46 AM I know Moon was looking at this before he moved and I think Cam talked about it. Most 09 owners do not want to give up their warrenty and a flash for the 09 has not been done.
Call Cam--he doesnt have time to really answer e mails fast.
OD
Phil's 8 10-06-2009, 09:53 AM Cam's email is all screwed up.....he is answering as he can. A phone call is best. I understand that he is working on or has just completed an 09 setup.
california style 10-06-2009, 02:10 PM yeah I know they are doing an 09 at the moment as a test setup.
michaelsk8er 10-06-2009, 02:25 PM Very nice. I am willing to give up my warranty for a Supercharger. It has less of a chance to cause engine problems I think than a turbo. If a S/C is available first for the 09 then I'll definitely go that route, even though I could build my own turbo but again engine management is my main issue.
EMart11b 10-06-2009, 02:39 PM Even if a flash doesn't become available wouldn't a piggyback still work?
california style 10-06-2009, 06:53 PM I believe a flash will work. Don't quote me on that though! haha!
Phil's 8 10-07-2009, 09:53 AM Even if a flash doesn't become available wouldn't a piggyback still work?
Yea a piggy back will work but it is not the best choice. Presently Cobb is working on the 09 and should have the AP done in the next month or so.
Sorry for this misimformation here......it seems that Cobb is not interested in the 09 and up models. Not enough of them to warrant the investment 4/8/10
tubingchamp 10-07-2009, 10:10 AM Very nice. I am willing to give up my warranty for a Supercharger. It has less of a chance to cause engine problems I think than a turbo.
Ehh..
Let's not start this.
I agree with your point, only because at this time, a S/C can not hit the same power levels as a turbo in our car.
If you push it as far as the turboed guys do, then you will have the same chances.
michaelsk8er 10-07-2009, 11:11 AM I was not intending to start anything. A S/C is damaging and can be as damaging. Anything you do will damage it and an engine can only make so many revolutions in a lifetime.
My point was merely to state that it in general you don't hear of people blowing their engines with a S/C where as lots of turbo newbies blow their engine, or damage it with a turbo. I myself am a boost newbie.
Chibana 10-07-2009, 11:18 AM I am very definitely interested in a good, well-engineered FI kit for my 09 RX-8. I won't be able to afford it for a few years, anyway, and by that time, I suspect I'll be ready to give up the engine/powertrain warranty. Until then, I'll have fun with safer, less expensive parts.
Very nice. I am willing to give up my warranty for a Supercharger. It has less of a chance to cause engine problems I think than a turbo. If a S/C is available first for the 09 then I'll definitely go that route, even though I could build my own turbo but again engine management is my main issue.
A S/C will help sacrifice longevity of a Renesis engine just like any other FI setup. Lets not get this confused with other threads. Lots of turbo owners love being able to push the 8 when turbo'd simply because it is a completely different feel from most other turbo cars and from stock of course. Some owners complain about the engine not being strong enough but those same people are the ones who have no clue as to what type of care is needed and it looks like the majority (I could be wrong) of people who want an FI steup for the 8 would rather have a turbo but sometimes switching over to a S/C with the ideology of it being safer ( Plenty of stories on this one). How you tune and how hard you push the car everyday is what sacrifices the longevity of your engine. Some people blow renesis engines that are turbo'd because they like to find what exactly (WHP) the Renesis is capable of and they do not complain since they can afford to rebuild the engine or buy a new one. There are all types of related issues that contribute to our engines life span. :evil_laug
I understand we are in a thread for a supercharger on a 09 but the comment was not concrete, but vague. As for the supercharger in a 09, I think pettit has already made one or have been working on it like Phil's 8 mentioned in the above statement.
Again, my apologies for going off topic. Lets continue on with the subject.
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michaelsk8er 10-07-2009, 03:42 PM I just called them and looks like they are working on it currently, but they don't have any projections and I didn't pry for details. Thanks all for the info.
Rotr8 10-07-2009, 05:53 PM yup that sound like something Cam would say, it wil be done when its done...
alz0rz 10-07-2009, 09:27 PM Yea a piggy back will work but it is not the best choice. Presently Cobb is working on the 09 and should have the AP done in the next month or so.
Where'd you hear/read that?
DarkLord7854 10-07-2009, 09:46 PM Will this Supercharger work on an 09? I emailed Pettit and still have not gotten a response.
I would assume since it is the same engine as the other 6 ports it will work. The only tricky part could be the ECU and engine management since it is now different. Does anyone know or can Pettit chime in?
I'm willing to test if need be. Hehehe.
Yes, it works.
If you go see Pettit, Cam will tell you he can put one on if you got the cash. I almost took out a loan when he told me that :p:
That's what he told me anyways "if you have 8 grand, bring your car Friday, pay us, and you'll have it back tuned and supercharged Monday"
Soon you will be mine supercharger... my preciousssss
But yea seriously, there's a few minor engine modifications on the block, but otherwise Cam said it ran fine. I didn't get a chance to see it in action but he showed me an 09 engine with the S/C on it.
EMart11b 10-07-2009, 09:50 PM ^^^^^ :SHOCKED:
I can't wait to deploy so I can bankroll one of these badboys. That and an Mz Custom body kit.
olddragger 10-07-2009, 09:51 PM many things need addressing before any kind of FI is placed on this car. Cam will inform you.
LISTEN.
Not as simple as it sounds.
OD
DarkLord7854 10-07-2009, 09:53 PM ^^^^^ :SHOCKED:
I can't wait to deploy so I can bankroll one of these badboys. That and an Mz Custom body kit.
I told him I'll be back around Christmas time :p:
Z0oMzo0m 10-07-2009, 09:56 PM ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
canubuy2plzthxby!!
EMart11b 10-07-2009, 09:56 PM many things need addressing before any kind of FI is placed on this car. Cam will inform you.
LISTEN.
Not as simple as it sounds.
OD
We know, let us have something to look forward too... dream crusher.
I told him I'll be back around Christmas time :p:
I'll definitely be taking a vacation down to Florida when I get back from the sandbox fall '11. It's the first thing on my list of shit to do.
DarkLord7854 10-07-2009, 09:58 PM many things need addressing before any kind of FI is placed on this car. Cam will inform you.
LISTEN.
Not as simple as it sounds.
OD
Considering Cam offered to install it on mine, I would imagine he's got the majority of the issues already resolved.
I'll definitely be taking a vacation down to Florida when I get back from the sandbox fall '11. It's the first thing on my list of shit to do.
2011? :shocking:
EMart11b 10-07-2009, 10:09 PM Don't deploy until August :sweatdrop
Rote8 10-07-2009, 10:38 PM I can't wait to see the 16X with a blower.
/Or would that be 16B?
shazy 10-07-2009, 11:46 PM 16x.
michaelsk8er 10-09-2009, 01:50 PM Definitely considering a S/C now. All these Greddy kits on the for sale forums lately are tempting though.
On to a serious question now though. If you get the Stage 2 kit can you upgrade to the Stage 2 CS kit? Is the stage 2 CS kit just the normal kit with the reflash?
Rotr8 10-09-2009, 02:29 PM why would you want a Greddy kit, they are in the FS section for a reason,,,
Phil's 8 10-09-2009, 03:20 PM why would you want a Greddy kit, they are in the FS section for a reason,,,
Yup +1 ^
EMart11b 10-09-2009, 03:31 PM Isn't your car unlimited Phil? Find out why!
olddragger 10-09-2009, 03:32 PM Dreamcrusher? I havent been called that since my last blind date years ago---ahhh the memories!
Seriously--dont mean to throw water on your fire. I just got the impression that you were impatient to get er done.
I want everyone that has this kit to have a very solid car and so does Cam and it order for that to happen your car needs pre install prep. Real gauges (including air charge temp--but not mandatory), is one, an A/F gauge, additional cooling, water meth system is HIGHLY recommended, ignition system check, FP OK? Things like that. Then after the install the ability to trouble shoot etc. Thats why I like to do a self install--so i know where things go and what cuss words to asscociate with them.
Welcome to the brotherhood dude.
EMart --from and old Marine vet--take care in the sand .
olddragger
EMart11b 10-09-2009, 04:57 PM ^ Appreciate it OD. I definitely plan on doing everything right when I get mine. I've got a huge shopping list ready for when the time comes :D
Phil's 8 10-30-2009, 03:35 PM I can't wait to see the 16X with a blower.
/Or would that be 16B?
When talking to Mazda, it's a 16X when they talk about it as a available engine and then when they talk about it in a vehicle it's refered to as a 16B. I tried to get an answer on this and it gets suddenly very quiet.
RIWWP 10-30-2009, 03:37 PM Wouldn't it be the 16C? Not trying to pick an arguement here :)
But if the difference between the 12A and 12B was a dimension change, and the 12B to 13B was just a configuration change, then changing dimension again would be another letter change along with the capacity change?
Of course, Mazda could do whatever they want, but just saying, that would match their historical trend.
Rotr8 10-30-2009, 04:38 PM who knows, chassis and engine designations are so complicated these days, I would say to Phil that the only reason from switching to B or C from X is that the engine has come out of its "X"perimental phase into a proven platform,,,
Ducatiman916 01-18-2010, 07:02 PM I called them and was told that mazda made some changes they have to account for with new software and some other changes.It will be a while before the 09 setup is ready
zenrx8 04-07-2010, 08:11 PM I was not intending to start anything. A S/C is damaging and can be as damaging. Anything you do will damage it and an engine can only make so many revolutions in a lifetime.
My point was merely to state that it in general you don't hear of people blowing their engines with a S/C where as lots of turbo newbies blow their engine, or damage it with a turbo. I myself am a boost newbie.
The only thing damaging about forced induction is how it's used. Forced induction, properly tuned, in a state of tune that is within the specs of the components of the motor, is not inherently damaging.
Forced induction, however, does magnify the consequences of stupid actions, bad driving habits, and general abuse. Racing, launching, redline gear changes, and other habits will kill a car regardless of the induction system.
Superchargers are not inherently damaging; bad drivers are.
Brettus 04-07-2010, 08:54 PM thats why i like to do a self install--so i know where things go and what cuss words to asscociate with them.
lol
Moon Assad 05-07-2010, 02:04 AM Wassapinin, been a while. Ive finaly gotten settled in MD. Got a new house in the woods. Been getting going on some projects and one of those is my blower settup but first I want to get Wesses car straitened out. Ive been trying to get ahold of him, guess hes busy. Hows things with you all. Any updates? Heres a few pics of my house. Im setup in the back were I can enjoy nature at its best.
california style 05-07-2010, 11:15 AM wow that looks great moon. Long time no hear from you!
Where is your new house at?
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