View Full Version : having trouble drifting, synchro/gearbox problem?
always.anthony 07-23-2009, 04:58 PM i can't seem to up shift while mid drift, if i'm holding a drift in either first or 2nd i cant get it to go up a gear, like 1 in 6 tries when it does want to go in, it bogs out and i slow down.
thinking maybe its not enough power, today it was raining, and i'm at my usual spot, i'm holding a donut top of first, like 8k i think and try to shift and it still won't go into 2nd, but when it does it bogs out!
any ideas guys?
Spinning Sushi 07-23-2009, 05:00 PM That is not a transmission issue.
You are lacking power.
Spinning Sushi 07-23-2009, 05:02 PM Actually, after re-reading your post.... maybe your synchroes are shot hence why you're not able to shift into the next gear.
You're still lacking power to hold a drift though...
Jedi54 07-23-2009, 05:07 PM are the gears grinding?
heyarnold69 07-23-2009, 05:41 PM wow..... same problem!!!!!!!!!!! For the love of god figure this out! I have tried everything!!!!!! I can never go from 2nd to 3rd!!!!
Right after the entrance I go from 3rd to 2nd (or 1st) then on the way back up after the apex I can never get it into 3rd
Ross_Dawg 07-23-2009, 05:55 PM dont know why this is in the racing section...
Jedi54 07-23-2009, 06:09 PM because he was "drifting"
Spinning Sushi 07-23-2009, 06:12 PM wow..... same problem!!!!!!!!!!! For the love of god figure this out! I have tried everything!!!!!! I can never go from 2nd to 3rd!!!!
Right after the entrance I go from 3rd to 2nd (or 1st) then on the way back up after the apex I can never get it into 3rd
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My third gear synchro was shot so I started using that and it fixed the problem for me.
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olddragger 07-23-2009, 07:05 PM maybe its your motor mounts allowing too much movement in the drivetrain?
OD
BlueRenesis82 07-23-2009, 07:41 PM Maybe its the fact you are wasting your time trying to drift.
imput1234 07-23-2009, 11:49 PM sounds like syncros, mine used to never shift to 2nd from first, under agressive driving, good thing I had warrenty
TeamRX8 07-24-2009, 02:29 AM you need a transmission rebuild or replacement, all the other answers are wrong
@!!narotordo 07-24-2009, 02:37 PM ^wong! he needs a 240 :lol:
TeamRX8 07-24-2009, 02:52 PM ^wong! he needs a 240 :lol:
:pokeowned :D:
StrokerAce 07-24-2009, 03:36 PM because he was "drifting"
Like he said
dont know why this is in the racing section...
always.anthony 07-25-2009, 02:59 AM i can shift fine in a straight line, for 1/4 mile times i can do 1-2-3-4 with no problem and run upper mid 14's consitently, i can shift while driving spiritedly too.
i just can't do it mid drift, or when it works it bogs
not enough power, i wont know for a while, no big mods coming up
and i'll try that red line fluid in the near future and see, if nothing else goes i'll dealership it and see what they say.
as for shot synchros, only 12k miles on it. so idk.
and my judgment thought this would be best place for this thread.
rodjonathan 07-25-2009, 04:03 AM ^ hold on are you gnna go to the dealership and say you cant shift mid drift! lol
i think its the power too just not enough to hold the drift and shift
yokohamaboi 07-25-2009, 06:38 AM Just come in 3rd gear----clutch in-----rev----throw it to 2nd------- and pop the clutch--
slide----counter-steer-----keeping it out is a matter of clutch kicking. The rx8 has power to drift, its the matter if you know how to put it to use, keep the revs up between 7-9K RPMS..
always.anthony 07-26-2009, 06:56 PM Just come in 3rd gear----clutch in-----rev----throw it to 2nd------- and pop the clutch--
slide----counter-steer-----keeping it out is a matter of clutch kicking. The rx8 has power to drift, its the matter if you know how to put it to use, keep the revs up between 7-9K RPMS..
yikes, 7-9, i dont have that much throttle control yet, right now im like 5-9 range, trying to work keeping the revs constantly up.
down shifting isnt a problem, its up shifting. i can drive in 3rd, and shift into 2nd to start my drift, its the matter of running out of speed and needing to upshift
05rex8 07-26-2009, 09:31 PM i hope you crash your car
mulkio 07-26-2009, 10:39 PM ^ That's harsh, but extremely funny.:rollingla
BlueRenesis82 07-26-2009, 10:44 PM win!
Razz1 07-26-2009, 10:46 PM better not be doing this in the street.
WTBRotary! 07-27-2009, 12:30 AM Just a question by why are yall bashing him??? Everyone has to learn somewhere... so? please dont say yall have never gone to a parking lot before and had some fun, he came to yall asking for help, not to be bashed and hope he crashes...
sigh... as for your problem I have no idea because i have a auto, from my research though it does seem like your synchroes, the 8 does have the power to drift... go back to the video of where Motor Trend did the best handling article or watch the video online and the guy will say it himself the 8 is easy to drift... mostly because its so neutral
wishboneracing 07-27-2009, 12:36 AM i hope you crash your car
boy all this hate for drifting, in a forum mostly full of autocross folks!! IMHO, drifting is approximately 3 orders of magnitude more interesting than autocross, at every level. IMHO! But opinions differ.
Live and let drive... or drift
Flashwing 07-27-2009, 01:29 AM boy all this hate for drifting, in a forum mostly full of autocross folks!! IMHO, drifting is approximately 3 orders of magnitude more interesting than autocross, at every level. IMHO! But opinions differ.
Live and let drive... or drift
I'll give you that, it tends to be more interesting.
I just take issues with any aspect of "racing" that is more subjective in it's scoring than time based. In any form of racing there is no such thing as a tie and the winner is clearly defined by who gets to the finish first.
I enjoy watching drifting (or what some locals call drifting) but I prefer the rather cut and dry aspect of traditional racing.
always.anthony 07-27-2009, 04:34 AM i'm more of a track time attack guy myself, im just here to learn, drifting is just like a little hobby and fun. and all of this is done in a huge, vacant parking lot, that has been vacant for the past like 5 years. its like an acre of open pavent and a few unlit lamp posts every now and then.
back to subject? "hope you crash your car?" really? k best of luck to your life.
Fate710 07-27-2009, 06:53 AM stay in gear. I've hit long sweeping corners and I just hold 2nd(or 3rd depending on if I want a fast entry or not). If you are first starting out drifting the 8, don't shift to 3rd. Keep it in 2nd. Control the throttle and clutch kick it if need be.
A buddy of mine who drifts a turbo miata, drifted my 8 around the local course with no problems. Lots of clutch kicks and fast entry speed.
05rex8 07-27-2009, 06:17 PM back to subject? "hope you crash your car?" really? k best of luck to your life.
yup.
Darklight9 07-27-2009, 06:45 PM 05rex8, why do you hate him for drifting? Also, i wouldnt want to see anyone crash their 8. I dont see what is wrong with learning to drift, the japanese can drift almost any car and they do drift alota 8s and 7s.
05rex8 07-27-2009, 06:47 PM lol
don't take everything so seriously on the interwebz
Darklight9 07-27-2009, 08:00 PM well, no flaming RAWR!
Btw, nice bumper.
05rex8 07-27-2009, 08:06 PM lolz
thx :)
Flashwing 07-28-2009, 12:52 AM I drift all the time.
shinka911 07-28-2009, 02:42 AM friend of mine is a lor drifter. was drifting on the streets and lost his driving license for 12 years. so i would keep it on the track
always.anthony 07-28-2009, 09:39 PM friend of mine is a lor drifter. was drifting on the streets and lost his driving license for 12 years. so i would keep it on the track
track and rural vacant parking lots for me.
and i was told not to clutch kick, bad for clutch and tranny?
Razz1 07-28-2009, 10:19 PM Drifting is for Wannabees.................
damn no wonder all you guys have so many posts you just fill up a thread that is asking a question with crap.
05rex8 07-28-2009, 10:38 PM ^hey look you just did it too
Flashwing 07-29-2009, 12:15 AM I drift in reverse...hell I'm drifting right now AND posting!
TeamRX8 07-31-2009, 06:46 PM autox is a participation sport, not a spectator sport
hotdogging and showing off takes a good slap in the ego once the recorded time shows you're only a legend in your own mind, I suppose that wouldn't be very interesting ...
@!!narotordo 07-31-2009, 07:48 PM i cant drift but slid out when taking turns hitting that oh snap!
ShadesFE3S 08-25-2009, 10:11 PM So, reviving a month old thread, but part of me, as a driving enthusiast, is just itching to say something. Here I am, poking around looking at random threads and came across this one. I have to say, what a bunch of negative bastards some of you lot are. The point of drifting is that it's FUN. Now, I'm just as competitive as the next guy (or girl), but I know when to let go and just enjoy driving. Drifting would be one of those times. It's an excellent change of pace from the cut and dried track stuff. Drifting as a motorsport has a long way to go (Flashwing is right, it's too subjective), and it's not the fastest way through a corner, but most drifters aren't looking at speed, just fun. Still, the car control techniques you learn drifting (just as the techniques you learn in every other form of racing) will help make anyone a better driver. To those of you that just had to run your mouth and be assholes, pull your heads out of your fourth point of contact and get over yourselves. You probably don't have the talent to even begin attempting to drift anyways. The rest of you, carry on.
One thing dude, make sure you find a track (or even an empty parking lot for all I care). Do not endanger other people trying to drift on the street. All it takes is one mistake.
05rex8 08-25-2009, 10:33 PM So, reviving a month old thread, but part of me, as a driving enthusiast, is just itching to say something. Here I am, poking around looking at random threads and came across this one. I have to say, what a bunch of negative bastards some of you lot are. The point of drifting is that it's FUN. Now, I'm just as competitive as the next guy (or girl), but I know when to let go and just enjoy driving. Drifting would be one of those times. It's an excellent change of pace from the cut and dried track stuff. Drifting as a motorsport has a long way to go (Flashwing is right, it's too subjective), and it's not the fastest way through a corner, but most drifters aren't looking at speed, just fun. Still, the car control techniques you learn drifting (just as the techniques you learn in every other form of racing) will help make anyone a better driver. To those of you that just had to run your mouth and be assholes, pull your heads out of your fourth point of contact and get over yourselves. You probably don't have the talent to even begin attempting to drift anyways. The rest of you, carry on.
One thing dude, make sure you find a track (or even an empty parking lot for all I care). Do not endanger other people trying to drift on the street. All it takes is one mistake.
****THIS JUST IN****
Nobody cares what you think.
Now back to our regularly scheduled forum.
TeamRX8 08-26-2009, 11:30 AM :yelrotflm
chino0314 08-26-2009, 12:46 PM ^^ lol
Catspaw 08-26-2009, 03:34 PM Seriously dudes, lighten up! Its DRIFTING, not street racing or chicken or some shit. Even if its not your thing you have to admit the level of skill and car control required to get a car sideways with such precision is pretty up there. I mean c'mon, it makes just about as much sense as drag racing, right?
That said, I think one can do better than the 8 when it comes to drifting. I'm not saying it can't be done successfully (take Kyle Mohan Racing or the JIC D1 machine for instance, though both are 13Bs), but the RX-8 is definitely one of the more difficult cars to drift :dunno:
Krazed_Rx8 08-26-2009, 03:57 PM So, reviving a month old thread, but part of me, as a driving enthusiast, is just itching to say something. Here I am, poking around looking at random threads and came across this one. I have to say, what a bunch of negative bastards some of you lot are. The point of drifting is that it's FUN. Now, I'm just as competitive as the next guy (or girl), but I know when to let go and just enjoy driving. Drifting would be one of those times. It's an excellent change of pace from the cut and dried track stuff. Drifting as a motorsport has a long way to go (Flashwing is right, it's too subjective), and it's not the fastest way through a corner, but most drifters aren't looking at speed, just fun. Still, the car control techniques you learn drifting (just as the techniques you learn in every other form of racing) will help make anyone a better driver. To those of you that just had to run your mouth and be assholes, pull your heads out of your fourth point of contact and get over yourselves. You probably don't have the talent to even begin attempting to drift anyways. The rest of you, carry on.
One thing dude, make sure you find a track (or even an empty parking lot for all I care). Do not endanger other people trying to drift on the street. All it takes is one mistake.
:icon_tup:
and1kidd 09-02-2009, 04:55 PM :icon_tup:
agreed
05rex8 09-02-2009, 07:12 PM stop bumping this thread
damn. i just did.
viprez586 09-02-2009, 10:03 PM I agree, drifting takes more skill then driving your car in a straight line for that matter.
Our cars are not difficult to drift, it's learning how to control the car and set it up for drift so the car will respond better when you do push it.
BTW, I don't do it on the street, I practice in empty totally open parking lots.
Yep, there is a not of negative, stupid posts on this forum. I don't think it'll ever change.
TeamRX8 09-02-2009, 10:23 PM sorry if we yanked your rear brake lever :dunno:
:rollingla
yokohamaboi 09-03-2009, 12:25 AM sorry if we yanked your rear brake lever :dunno:
:rollingla
Beginner shit lol haha :spank:
viprez586 09-03-2009, 08:32 PM Yep, It's hilarious you assume I'm a newbie because of my low post count. Look at my occupation dumbass.
BlueRenesis82 09-03-2009, 08:35 PM You work on overpriced Toyotas?
TeamRX8 09-04-2009, 12:26 AM Beginner shit lol haha :spank:
MadMike would disagree.
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viprez586 09-04-2009, 06:48 PM Yeah, I do. If your being sarcastic, I'll just laugh in your face because we still move 40 cars out the door everyday.
Our most recently new tech just came from Cadillac - where they were excited to see 20 a day.
yokohamaboi 09-04-2009, 07:11 PM MadMike would disagree.
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lol what i meant to say was, If your just relying on the e-brake for drifting, why not practice other different ways, You have to know like clutch kicking and shift lock, etc for different corners and angles. <-- thats what i meant to say lol
Spinning Sushi 09-04-2009, 07:13 PM This guy is cool....
2wGC_vjiG5w
yokohamaboi 09-04-2009, 08:40 PM I wanna be just like him :D...............................no! lol
lol when i was at miami speedway last year. over 20 rx8s all running on track coming back with melted bumpers and lost parts, its nice to see them get a beating and keep going
TeamRX8 09-04-2009, 10:38 PM lol what i meant to say was, If your just relying on the e-brake for drifting, why not practice other different ways, You have to know like clutch kicking and shift lock, etc for different corners and angles. <-- thats what i meant to say lol
he's driving a NA 26B FD3, you think you know more than a drifting pro?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaAKOrOWV7Q
yokohamaboi 09-05-2009, 07:51 PM He's clutch kicking on most turns. Beginners usually start with e-braking, thats why i said that on my other post. duh! :doh:
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