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Lock & Load
01-02-2004, 10:12 PM
Having read racing beats article on supposed hp gains in aftermarket exhaust systems which seem to only give you a moderate power gain and only result in louder exhaust .

I am wondering if a speaker / amplifier attached to the stock standard exhaust system would yield similar loader exhaust noise without the crazy aftermarket exhausts prices??? which seem to yield very little extra power???

Could this be done ???

How???

At least if this could be done you would retain originall exhaust noise but it would be louder and a lot cheaper to achieve.

michael

Spinny 3ngls
01-02-2004, 11:17 PM
can anyone say RICE.

mamccubbin
01-02-2004, 11:52 PM
Um, what?

fan
01-03-2004, 12:09 AM
RICE *2!

i3man
01-03-2004, 03:27 AM
If you like louder exhaust sound you'd probably like this as well.

http://www.takakaira.co.jp/accessories/nightpager/nightpager.html

Speed-ER doc
01-03-2004, 04:32 AM
Maybe you could splice the power from the underbody neon.

Or just poke a hole in the cat.

MikeA
01-03-2004, 05:02 AM
BLOW OFF BLOW OFF!! GO WITH THE BLOW OFF
Also you can get a front mounted intake that looks like an intercooler for a turbo.
"Fake" BLOW OFF + "Fake" Intercooler = Lock&Load

mamccubbin
01-03-2004, 09:06 AM
Just hire this guy to ride with you.

http://www.funny-funny-pictures.com/insanity/

Lock & Load
01-03-2004, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by Lock & Load
Having read racing beats article on supposed hp gains in aftermarket exhaust systems which seem to only give you a moderate power gain and only result in louder exhaust .

I am wondering if a speaker / amplifier attached to the stock standard exhaust system would yield similar loader exhaust noise without the crazy aftermarket exhausts prices??? which seem to yield very little extra power???

Could this be done ???

How???

At least if this could be done you would retain originall exhaust noise but it would be louder and a lot cheaper to achieve.

michael

Guys
your feedback is mostly appreciated but can i try to get some possible answers with realistic solution for this potential modification , thanks.
michael

Speed-ER doc
01-03-2004, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by mamccubbin
Just hire this guy to ride with you.

http://www.funny-funny-pictures.com/insanity/

ROFLMFAO!!! :D

nt5k
01-03-2004, 03:42 PM
Please, sell your 8..

Thanks

i3man
01-03-2004, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by mamccubbin
Just hire this guy to ride with you.

http://www.funny-funny-pictures.com/insanity/


Haven't laughed that hard in a long time :p

fan
01-03-2004, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by nt5k
Please, sell your 8..

Thanks

I concur

Elara
01-03-2004, 05:34 PM
Look, if you guys have nothing useful to suggest to him that's fine, but since it's not your car, DEAL WITH IT! He can do what he wants. These little rude comments are really getting really old. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean someone else doesn't. Either be polite or don't type.

wakeech
01-03-2004, 06:35 PM
jesus, give it a rest guys. he wants a loud exhaust, get off his back.

Originally posted by Lock & Load
Guys
your feedback is mostly appreciated but can i try to get some possible answers with realistic solution for this potential modification , thanks.
michael

well, there're a few different things you could do, that i know are done.

muffler / screw driver + hammer = louder

or if you're not unwilling to spend some money (not more than a replacement exhaust) you could head to a muffler shop and get them to cut out your stock one and weld into place one which is just louder.

or you could just go with the straight pipe, but that's probably a little too loud ;)

Lock & Load
01-03-2004, 06:52 PM
WAKEECH
THANKS For your input , could a amplifier or a speaker be used to increase the exhaust noise levels and were could one place it ??

Elara

Thanks .

Its my party and i cry if i want to .( the song ) and the same applies to my car .

Ihave seen exhaust mods that look ordinary and only give you a louder exhaust .if i can achieve a louder exhaust level with out changing the standard exhaust i dont see a problem with it .

Until hp figures on exhaust improvements can be verified , i will stick to my plan for the time being or until i get MAURICES (CANZOOMERS ) Stage 2 kit that requires new exhaust .

michael

Spinny 3ngls
01-03-2004, 09:14 PM
really all kidding aside I think most of the people on this forum prefer to have function over form. although the current exhausts do not produce stellar gains in overall hp you would still be pleased with the results. teh suggestion of a speaker system is highly impractical and if your plan is to change the exhaust setup as soon as you can get canzoomers stage 2 then the best thing you could do would be to do some quick research on which new exhaust you could install now and still be able to use with the B-pipe. that way you dont waste money on a speaker setup or risk the ire of the anti rice community. The only way you could justify a speaker system would be to install a loud exhaust and then set up the speakers to cancel out the undesirable sounds on command (like when you are rolling past krispy kreme or other donut shops) that would be cool.

241Commuter
01-03-2004, 10:45 PM
Sorry michael, reading this thread (which I believe is entirely within my rights, my party) gave way to a heavy dose of ROF type of laughing. If it's noise you want, please buy my Miata. My wife broke the muffler going over a dirt trail more suited to my Expedition. I think you would be well served canning the laughter on that link and just playing it on your Bose at a volume to suit your needs.

You know, one of the reasons why a lot of people buy a rotary is that it IS so smooth and quiet. (Piston engine goes boing, boing, boing). 8000 rpm on my 8 feels like 5000 rpm on my Miata (with a fixed muffler), and that's generally a good thing. I don't really care what you do to your 8, even if it does seem morally wrong, but judging by the reaction on this board you can be sure that a lot of people will be laughing at you once they've figured out what you've done. If that's cool with you, go for it. If I heard your car I'd be looking around for the hidden Candid Camera. And Spinny beat me to it, although maybe the Black-and-Whites don't hang out at donut shops in Australia the way they do here. I was going to suggest you change the sound track to Mozart when you rolled past the police station.

Lock & Load
01-04-2004, 12:08 AM
As most of the exhaust aftermarket products are in JAPAN and from AMERICA .

The cost of importing ,shipping custom duty exchange rate makes most of these parts way to expensive here in AUSTRALIA.

I KNOW OF ONLY ONE AFTERMARKET exhaust system specific to the rx8 here in AUSTRALIA.

If you would have read my previous threads i only thought about this as a temperary fix until i get Stage1 kit and then go on to stage2 kit which requires an aftermarket exhaust modified to suit the extra temperatures stage 2 kit puts out.

Bernieunger.

As far as" you know, one of the reasons people buy a rotary is that it is So smooth and quiet."

My first encounter with a rotary engine car was in 1972 when i co -owned a R 100 ROTARY (MOST LIKELY BEFORE YOU AND SOME OF THE OTHER FORUM MEMBERS KNEW HOW TO WALK OR TALK .

From memory it had a better sounding exhaust than my current RX8 excepting it chewed the oil and petrol and blew all its seals .

All comments are appreciated obviously some more than others.

At the ripe old age of fifty and having spent nearly 25 years in real estate i have a tough skin .

"Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me ."
" Dont Worry be Happy"
MICHAEL

zerobanger
01-04-2004, 01:54 AM
Originally posted by Lock & Load
Having read racing beats article on supposed hp gains in aftermarket exhaust systems which seem to only give you a moderate power gain and only result in louder exhaust .

I am wondering if a speaker / amplifier attached to the stock standard exhaust system would yield similar loader exhaust noise without the crazy aftermarket exhausts prices??? which seem to yield very little extra power???

Could this be done ???

How???

At least if this could be done you would retain originall exhaust noise but it would be louder and a lot cheaper to achieve.

michael

I bought a battery powered boom box that will play a tape that I recoreded my exhaust note with. It will play it at what ever increase of volume I want. I will set it to 5 X and put it in my catback. I will route a wire to the battery to recharge it.

I'll let you know how it goes, should sound real nice.

Lock & Load
01-04-2004, 02:12 AM
Originally posted by zerobanger
I bought a battery powered boom box that will play a tape that I recoreded my exhaust note with. It will play it at what ever increase of volume I want. I will set it to 5 X and put it in my catback. I will route a wire to the battery to recharge it.

I'll let you know how it goes, should sound real nice.

Zero banger

Finally someone with a bit of vision to do somethings differently to the norm.

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND KEEP US POSTED , A SOUND TRACK OF YOUR UPGRADED EXHAUST WOULD BE AWESOME.

HOOORAYY.

Michael

BRx8
01-04-2004, 02:22 AM
i wouldn't mind a louder exhaust as well but i'm not about to pay $500+ for it if it's only going to give me 5 HP, give or take (i spent that $500 on Canzoomers Stage1 which i'm hoping will give me 25-30hp)...i've never bought any resonator tips but would those help you? i think those make it sound a little louder, i dunno

Lock & Load
01-04-2004, 06:22 AM
Originally posted by BRx8
i wouldn't mind a louder exhaust as well but i'm not about to pay $500+ for it if it's only going to give me 5 HP, give or take (i spent that $500 on Canzoomers Stage1 which i'm hoping will give me 25-30hp)...i've never bought any resonator tips but would those help you? i think those make it sound a little louder, i dunno

well said

nt5k
01-04-2004, 10:37 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42610&item=2451960472

enjoy..

Lock & Load
01-04-2004, 12:41 PM
ntK5

HMMMM Very interesting , would it work on a rotary engine exhaust , great find .

Maybe i can get my friend to look at the concept and adapt it to specifically suit the rx8.

Thanks.

For all the knockers out there obviously some people in JAPAN AND U.S.A. ..... DO....... THINK OUTSIDE OF THE SQUARE.


MICHAEL

nt5k
01-04-2004, 01:39 PM
You just stick it in the exhaust pipe.. I doubt it cares what kind of engine you are using.. Though if anything you will get a loss in performance in exchange for the noise..

Lock & Load
01-04-2004, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by nt5k
You just stick it in the exhaust pipe.. I doubt it cares what kind of engine you are using.. Though if anything you will get a loss in performance in exchange for the noise..

Mostly concerned about the power issue as stated by you as well as the rotary exhausts melting point as u know rotary exhaust run mighty hot.

I am tryng to get an increase in the original rotary exhaust noise but this mod has given me some good ideas.

michael

Spinny 3ngls
01-04-2004, 02:38 PM
a couple of other things you could do are to cut off the stock tips and add some aftermanket resonated tips so you wouldnt lose the actual flow. also you might be able to remove the pipes after the muffler and drill a few extra holes inside the muffler though not through the external casing just through the internal baffles. typically what happens when an exhaust goes out normally is that those baffels rust through and the spot welds come loose from the muffler housing. I can tell you this will definately increase your exhaust note and depending on the holes size etc. you may also gain some performance. My 240sx's muffler is currently belly up and sounds just like a rice/resonated exhaust. problem is I dont want to replace it until I can get a RB25det to stuff under the hood. you wouldnt happen to have a spare would you. I know that you lucky guys in Australia get the skyline.

JimW
01-04-2004, 03:07 PM
Michael, if you are going to get Canzoomers stage 2, I think you might be fine with your stock exhaust. The stage 2 mod requires a high heat resistant, free flow cat which will unleash more power and sound than any muffler or cat back system will. Canzoomer also likes the Borla exhaust and he thought that added a little extra to his Mod. So if you want to save some money just wait, or have a muffler shop weld bigger pipes and install a universal free flow muffler if it's cheaper than importing!

rotarymagic
01-04-2004, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by Elara
Look, if you guys have nothing useful to suggest to him that's fine, but since it's not your car, DEAL WITH IT! He can do what he wants. These little rude comments are really getting really old. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean someone else doesn't. Either be polite or don't type.

Yes

Lock & Load
01-04-2004, 04:15 PM
Spinny 3ngls

If the RB25 DET IS AVAILABLE in Australia i can try and get it for you no problems .
I would require exact details and specs .

thanks

JIM W

THANKS for your advice re stage 2 hopefully stage 1 its on its way as i am 1 of the first to get that here in AUSTRALIA .

Rotary magic

well said


Cheers

michael