turbovtec
04-19-2009, 04:07 PM
What are the pros and cons of an ebay turbo kit that costs like $800. I heard you can only boost up to 6-8 psi. Reliable?
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View Full Version : ebay turbo kit? turbovtec 04-19-2009, 04:07 PM What are the pros and cons of an ebay turbo kit that costs like $800. I heard you can only boost up to 6-8 psi. Reliable? Jedi54 04-19-2009, 04:08 PM Pro: it's cheap Con: it's a piece of shit. Please do yourself a favor and read up a bit more on the FI options that are actuallly worthwhile for our cars. Much reading you have ahead of you my young Padawan alnielsen 04-19-2009, 04:10 PM Crappy turbo that is sized wrong and won't last long. It is a universal kit so the isn't any exhaust/intake connections that are made for the RX8. Inferior parts. And that's just the beginning. turbovtec 04-19-2009, 04:13 PM so it wont last at all? Cant even boost 5 psi and be happy with it? I just thought about it because its so cheap.. wont be useful at all? And i did check out alot of threads for FI on our cars. Jedi54 04-19-2009, 04:30 PM no offense but I don't know what part of this you didn't understand... It is a universal kit so the isn't any exhaust/intake connections that are made for the RX8 You'll never see 5 psi because you'll never be able to connect it. Would make a pretty paper weight though. :) Spoolin8 04-19-2009, 04:38 PM basically if you bought this kit you would have to spend another grand easily getting custom parts welded up. (unless you can weld yourself). Then you can run 5 psi for about a month and then you will need to spend another 1,000 to replaced the turbo that blew because the 50$ piece of shit wastegate didnt open. After replacing these parts you find your newer high quality turbo has spin back because the ebay BOV was not venting enough and causing your turbo to surge. However in reality you would never get to this point because back when the original ebay wastegate didnt open and caused your turbo to blow it also blew your motor because apparently the renesis cant handle 35 psi.... why? I just dont know StealthTL 04-19-2009, 04:41 PM Like AlGuy say, how would you fit it to the motor? The Greddy kit comes with a low profile cast iron header that the turbo could bolt to - the ebay one doesn't, so there is $3000 you need to spend to get 'piece number one' and it just gets worse from there..... Sheesh. S turbovtec 04-19-2009, 04:51 PM lol got the point. No cheap shit on rx8 =] lol time to save up for the greddy. Jedi54 04-19-2009, 05:32 PM ^^^ wrong answer. stock greddy is bottom of the totem pole turbovtec 04-19-2009, 05:38 PM What do you recommend? something not too expensive. 636 04-19-2009, 05:41 PM ^not too expensive? Ummm , modding ANY car can be expensive. Wrong hobby man , gtfo lol. expo1 04-19-2009, 05:45 PM What do you recommend? something not too expensive. What is your budget? Also if you were to get a turbo would you have extra cash to repair a blown motor? PhantomRX-8 04-19-2009, 05:47 PM If youre worried about stuff being expensive, dont turbo the 8. This isnt the engine to screw with cheap shit unless you have money to replace an engine. The least expensive way to get decent stuff is buy a used Greddy kit. Then to make it really reliable, spend another $1095 and have Fluid Motorsports rebuild it. Thats the route Im taking. Dont have patience waiting for the MM upgrade. 636 04-19-2009, 05:53 PM Also i dont mean to sound rude but it doesnt sound like you know much about forced induction or not much mechanical aptitude. Dont go turbo if you dont know what you're doing , you dont just turbo it and forget about it , its not like N/A. You can try nitrous if you're going cheap with your car. Transam kid 01 04-19-2009, 06:05 PM Want cheap? For around the same price as that ebay kit, you can get a 55 shot kit (ZEX) from BHR Red Rex 04-19-2009, 06:20 PM If you even have a budget then FI is not for you. You can cheap out now and buy the GReddy kit and pay out the ass later, or you can get a quality kit to begin with. Ask anyone, a stock GReddy kit is garbage. Not just a piece or two, the entire kit basically. There's no cheap and cheerful FI. You get what you pay for. Superchargers for this car are over $6K but they won't fail before the engine, and if you know what you're doing and have the cash you can throw together a good turbo kit. What exactly are you looking for from an FI kit? And be reasonable. Everyone wants a safe, reliable kit that adds a bit more power. Cheap, fast, reliable. Pick two. What makes you want FI? More torque at cruising speeds? More off the line grunt? Not even for racing but just more low end daily driving power? Whats your driving style? Do you track the car? Is this your only vehicle? Most people just take a glance at the peak horsepower and torque figures. And most people just want FI cuz everyone else has it and its cool. Do your research. Not just for your car but for yourself. Sounds silly but why do you want to turbocharge/supercharge your car? Write out a list of reasons and find a kit that fits your needs. mscamp02 04-19-2009, 06:45 PM Ok listen to me because when I bought my 8 I was kinda in the same boat as you about knowing anything on FI.....not alot. I may have made a stupid thread here and there asking some questions I probably should have so instead of going that route do this: Start reading about the kits that are out there (I think there are 4 turbo kits and 2 super kits right now) and figure out what works best for you. Once you find out what works best for you find someone respectable on the forum and ask some legitimate questions you have concerning that particular kit (see what they like about it, what they dont like, what they would do differently if they could do it over and just anything you can think of). Get as much info as you can, send a few emails to the manufacturer or even give them a call and read as absolutely as much as possible on FI...know what your getting into and then when your ready to invest the 5 to 7k on a kit and the up to 2k for installation (if your not doing it yourself) and the 2 -4k for a new motor swap (9-13k total) go FI. If you cant do that then either A get a new car, B be happy with what you have, or C save up and take your time Cattywampus 04-19-2009, 10:12 PM Ask anyone, a stock GReddy kit is garbage. Not just a piece or two, the entire kit basically.. Not true. The Greddy is a good kit it just has a self destructing flaw. The Ebay kit is garbage. The Greddy kit is on par with the car needs. Red Rex 04-19-2009, 10:25 PM Not true. The Greddy is a good kit it just has a self destructing flaw. The Ebay kit is garbage. The Greddy kit is on par with the car needs. How so? The turbo is under-sized. No way around it. It runs out of breath at high RPM, regardless of whether or not you're using a boost controller. Its not the wastegate's fault, the turbo is simply too small. Use of journal bearings cause long term problems with the over-zealous oil lines and the software is useless. The Ebay kit would have a self destructing flaw as well. Can you make the GReddy kit work? With enough money I don't see why not. Is it worth the haggle? Depends on the person. But if you were able to install this Ebay kit you would pretty much end up with a GReddy kit. The cheapest possible way to get FI with parts built by the lowest bidder. The only way I would buy and install a GReddy kit is if I only intended to use it short term. Getting the turbo rebuilt and clipped like Fluid Motorsports offers or buy the MazdaManiac GReddy upgrade for example. turbovtec 04-20-2009, 12:35 AM Yea i wont bull shit or talk out of my ass about this but i dont know much about going FI. I think I got about 2 options here. Go learn about the different kits and how to maintain a car with FI, save up and actually make the right choice or go with the 55 shot from BHR. My budget was about $1000. Not enough for FI I guess. I also agree, this is not an engine to put cheap shit on it especially because I cant afford a blown engine right now. I already have a CAI and midpipe. Might just buy a catback and nitrous now. Thanks for the help btw. laythor 04-20-2009, 12:38 AM glad to see you've got something out of this Turbovtec... lots of people come here asking about the ebay turbos, not many leave having figured out how bad they are. Enjoy your car NA for awhile, spend that time reading up on turbos. There are a few really good books on the subject if you want to get in depth about it. turbovtec 04-20-2009, 12:40 AM turbo for dummies lmao and how much would the nitrous from BHR be? anyone got a link? laythor 04-20-2009, 12:41 AM send a PM to charles r hill, the head poo-bah of BHR. Not only will he give you prices but he'll answer EVERY question you throw at him. turbovtec 04-20-2009, 12:44 AM cool. thanks =] Cattywampus 04-20-2009, 12:22 PM You called the Greddy kit garbage. While what you say is true about the Greddy turbo it is not garbage. The Greddy turbo makes nice power to compliment the rx8 and has been proven to last a long time. Because it's self destructing doesn't mean it will actually do that. With the proper care and proper set up it will last for thousands of miles. Other turbos are better but simply put the Greddy is not "garbage." felk420 04-27-2009, 12:05 AM lets play bullshyt.....BuLL SHYYTTT StealthTL 04-27-2009, 12:15 AM My Greddy kit is a ton'O'fun! 04RX8man 05-02-2009, 09:50 PM yeah if u dont know much about FI u better learn before anything. but with a budget of 1000 bucks u better do some suspension or ur best bet would b the Cobb AP for 695 then if u decide to go turbo later it's the best engine management out ther for our cars now! PRX8 05-04-2009, 07:40 AM Greedy Sucks.... not even with an upgrade... Try these.. Esmeril PTP Mazda Type 1,2 or 3 SFR If you want serious response ( Pettit SC ) yeah baby got $10,000 to spend ? I'm sure others will have an opinion to each kit and those who have these installed can describe their taste so you can decide what is best for you and your pocket... The RX8 ain't cheap to upgrade nor it is cheap to repair so be wise and oriented before investing without knowing... I can admit ( I too have a lot to learn about Turbo and SC ) so until I'm not completely oriented and know about the cons and pros, I'll stick with being N/A for now.. jejejee just an advise... lol got the point. No cheap shit on rx8 =] lol time to save up for the greddy. |