View Full Version : Racing Brake BBK's, Rotors, and Pads!!
Race Roots 04-03-2009, 12:18 PM Race Roots in now very proud to be a direct dealer with Racing Brake!
To kick off this Joyous event we are doing the following special!!
NOW FREE SHIPPING!!
We have everything from BBK's, Two-Piece Rotors, One Piece Rotors, Brake Lines, Hawk Brake Pads, Racing Brake Brake Pads!!
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Why is Racing Brake the best out there?
The RB Rotors design uses a curved vane over the OEM straight vane which improves air flow and therefore makes the rotor run much cooler. With Racing Brake Rotors they use what is known as an ElectroDeposition Paint (EDP) which was first introduced by Racing Brake to the performance industry in 2002. This EDP versus other cadium or zinc coating is better becasue of the increased resistance to corrosion with uniform surface coverage on both edges and inside vanes. The EDP is also more enviromental friendly then the others and has a nicer appearance. Other benefits included a 3D modeled rotor to endure dimensional accuracy which use reinforced ribs to reduce warpage and convergent vanes which makes the disc cooler and last longer. The Racing Brake also incorporates open slots to vent gas and debris without build up.
Benefits of a Two-Piece Rotor?
In addition to the benefits already stated for the One-Piece Rotors, the two piece has Convergent Curves for one which allows air to be circulated more efficiently, which has both an inboard and outboard Air inlet to allow even more cooling for the disc. The Racing Brake rotors are also center mounted versus surface mounted which allows for a balanced stress load. With the Racing Brake Rotors being Uni-directional it makes installation a snap because traditional rotors are just directional so they would be specific for which side they would be mounted on, no worries with the Racing brake rotors!
Race Roots 04-03-2009, 12:21 PM Comparison of Benefits of Slotted, Drilled and Slotted as well as Racing Brakes Open Slot (http://www.racingbrake.com/v/main/two_piece_compare.asp)
Further Explanation of Vanes and Benefits (http://www.racingbrake.com/v/main/rotor_vane_design.asp)
Race Roots 04-07-2009, 08:11 PM Thank you for the orders!
We shipped out what we had left in stock, our Main Stocking order should be here Early next week for the remaining orders!
TopGear8 04-07-2009, 08:12 PM Racing Brake knows there stuff, I want this!!!
Ive always wondered this, what brands of brake pads can u use with RB calipers? Just Hawk and RB's own brand?
Race Roots 04-09-2009, 12:40 PM Ive always wondered this, what brands of brake pads can u use with RB calipers? Just Hawk and RB's own brand?
Regarding the Rx-8 aftermarket brake pad; the Racing Brake caliper uses the brake pad shaped D647, which is the stock brake pad shape for Nissan 300ZX and Subaru WRX (’06-‘08). It’s also referred to as D460. So brake pads made by any company that makes this same shape will work in the RB4045 caliper, which is the one used in the Rx8 BBK.
The brand is not that important; however, it is critical to run the correct type of brake pad to match the driving style (street or racing). Some people have had issues with brake pad deposit when they run street pads for racing applications; see our warning here (http://www.racingbrake.com/v/main/pad_warning.asp). Unfortunately, when issues like this occur, customers are quick to blame the rotor when in fact the problem is due to the brake pads!
markryan22 04-09-2009, 02:58 PM Is this still going on? I need to upgrade mine lol
Race Roots 04-09-2009, 10:42 PM Is this still going on? I need to upgrade mine lol
Yeah it just started! :)
We are still waiting on our stocking shipment, it seems I caught Racing Brake at a bad time, all my stuff is in the middle of a big move for them.
Should be another week or two before I can ship most of the stuff out, some I have stock on hand.
Race Roots 04-21-2009, 07:16 PM As an update to everyone my stocking order is starting to trickle in this week and the rest will be here next week.
rx8thunder 04-21-2009, 11:01 PM Seems like the weights you quote through your site are very different from what is shown through this URl.
http://forums.racingbrake.com/showthread.php?t=35
Why is that?
TopGear8 04-21-2009, 11:29 PM ^Are you looking at where it says " Weight: " on his site? That is the weight used to calculating shipping weights, so it includes the product and everything inside the box...
rx8thunder 04-21-2009, 11:43 PM ^ no, looking at comparison of weights between 1 and 2 piece rotors...
Weight Comparison
One-piece 12.3 lbs.
Two-piece 9.8 lbs.
Weight Savings: 2.5 lbs.
Not consistent with what is on RB site or scales from link I provided. Must be a typo
EDIT: Never mind, differences attributable to front vs rear rotors
Brian Major 04-21-2009, 11:58 PM This might be posted on there but with the caliper upgrade, will you run into issues with running stock rotors? Also, is ABS retained with these calipers?
Race Roots 04-22-2009, 10:45 AM This might be posted on there but with the caliper upgrade, will you run into issues with running stock rotors? Also, is ABS retained with these calipers?
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With the caliper upgrade you will be Fine, this will fit 17'' Wheels and the Stock 18'' wheels as well. These also fit the deeper offset Enkei with no issue.
ABS is retained with the caliper upgrade as the ABS does not interfere with the caliper it connects directly to the back of the Rotor.
All OEM systems will be retained with the caliper upgrade.
rx8thunder 04-22-2009, 11:11 AM How true is this statement about 2 piece rotors? Quoted from someone who races...
"They need constant service as they are designed 4 racing and the 2 come apart and must be re tightened and torqued"
Lighting_GT 04-22-2009, 12:25 PM Regarding the Rx-8 aftermarket brake pad; the Racing Brake caliper uses the brake pad shaped D647, which is the stock brake pad shape for Nissan 300ZX and Subaru WRX (’06-‘08). It’s also referred to as D460. So brake pads made by any company that makes this same shape will work in the RB4045 caliper, which is the one used in the Rx8 BBK.
The brand is not that important; however, it is critical to run the correct type of brake pad to match the driving style (street or racing). Some people have had issues with brake pad deposit when they run street pads for racing applications; see our warning here (http://www.racingbrake.com/v/main/pad_warning.asp). Unfortunately, when issues like this occur, customers are quick to blame the rotor when in fact the problem is due to the brake pads!
I am just wondering which pads will best compliment the RB slotted rotors for street and occasional track use, without compromising the life of either one.
I would assume the Racing Brake One-Piece rotors paired with Racing Brake's ET-500's would last as long as OE pads/rotors, as well as provide better stopping capability even if they see occasional track usage?
I'm in the market for brakes so this is good timing :)
Race Roots 04-22-2009, 01:28 PM I am just wondering which pads will best compliment the RB slotted rotors for street and occasional track use, without compromising the life of either one.
I would assume the Racing Brake One-Piece rotors paired with Racing Brake's ET-500's would last as long as OE pads/rotors, as well as provide better stopping capability even if they see occasional track usage?
I'm in the market for brakes so this is good timing :)
Yes I would go with the ET500's, they are an excellent match, great compound.
Race Roots 04-22-2009, 01:40 PM How true is this statement about 2 piece rotors? Quoted from someone who races...
"They need constant service as they are designed 4 racing and the 2 come apart and must be re tightened and torqued"
I haven't heard of anything like that, I am checking into it with Racing Brake.
Brian Major 04-23-2009, 01:01 AM With the caliper upgrade you will be Fine, this will fit 17'' Wheels and the Stock 18'' wheels as well. These also fit the deeper offset Enkei with no issue.
ABS is retained with the caliper upgrade as the ABS does not interfere with the caliper it connects directly to the back of the Rotor.
All OEM systems will be retained with the caliper upgrade.
Awesome information... more questions...
Can you post an image of the Racing brake front pads next to a stock sized pad for comparison? I'm interested to see if these calipers house pads larger than stock. I know you've installed this kit on your car, how do you like it? Pedal feel improved?
Race Roots 04-23-2009, 11:40 AM How true is this statement about 2 piece rotors? Quoted from someone who races...
"They need constant service as they are designed 4 racing and the 2 come apart and must be re tightened and torqued"
This is the Response I received to your question.
Not true for RB design – We use a mechanical locking device in our fasteners, which once properly tightened to torque, the two parts (hat and rotor) stay at the same torque regardless of temperature - this is the same principle used for a critical fastening like axle nuts.
The statement is true for competitions’ design – Brembo, Stoptech – They use lock-tite which over time and temperature cycles, the two parts can become loose (due to aging or going over the temperature limit) and requires regular checking and maintenance.
In fact when we ship our Steptech/Brembo replacement rings, we include our hardware which replaces theirs, eliminating the use of lock-tite.
Also...here is a picture of the hardware in question.
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Awesome information... more questions...
Can you post an image of the Racing brake front pads next to a stock sized pad for comparison? I'm interested to see if these calipers house pads larger than stock. I know you've installed this kit on your car, how do you like it? Pedal feel improved?
I just started last night and not everything is here, still waiting on the calipers and the rear rotors.
Here is an Image of my Stock Sport Suspension Pad and the Racing Brake ET500 Pad.
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The Stock pad is on the top and Racing Brake ET500 on the bottom, as you can see the Racing Brake pad has slightly more surface are coverage than the stock pad.
RA-Eight 04-24-2009, 05:44 PM How long is this promotion going for?
Race Roots 04-24-2009, 05:56 PM How long is this promotion going for?
For another month, maybe sooner.
One of the spur of the moment type things.
I will post a week in advance when it is ending.
Race Roots 04-29-2009, 12:53 PM We now have the rest of our stocking order so we are stocked to the teeth on Brake Rotors, Pads, and Line!
Orders can be completed on the site and don't forget to use the Coupon for 10% off your order!
vtfanatic69 05-01-2009, 05:47 PM How do we know what suspension setup we have? I am interested in getting the Racing Brake slotted rotors but how do I know whether I need sport or non-sport?
Race Roots 05-02-2009, 12:06 AM How do we know what suspension setup we have? I am interested in getting the Racing Brake slotted rotors but how do I know whether I need sport or non-sport?
Do you have the stcok 18 inch wheels?
MT? If you are unsure you can take pics of your wheels and I can tell you which ones you will need.
vtfanatic69 05-02-2009, 12:14 AM it's a m/t with the 5 spoke 18in wheels
Race Roots 05-02-2009, 12:16 AM it's a m/t with the 5 spoke 18in wheels
You would need to get the sport rotors.
Race Roots 05-15-2009, 07:27 PM We will be restocked on ALL BBKS, Rotors, Pads, and Lines Monday!
Don't forget to use the coupon special to get an extra 10% off your Brake order!!!
RA-Eight 05-17-2009, 06:23 PM CAN'T WAIT! I wonder if it'll be here in time for a nice Memorial Weekend intall???
Race Roots 05-21-2009, 10:46 PM Restocked on everything!!!
I demand pics installed RA! :)
Race Roots 05-26-2009, 12:01 PM Extra Special Pricing for the Non-Sport front rotors I have 3 sets at unbelievable prices!!
Race Roots 06-04-2009, 12:21 PM Talking on the phone today with Racing Brake they really are stepping up their game and supporting this community.
We had discussed issues with the Rotor hats rubbing and they are currently in change of production to make the lower offset Rotor hats 2.5mm further from the ball joint to alleviate any issues of rubbing on the rotor.
So if anyone is having any issues with their deeper offset rotors we will be happy to send out new Rotor hats to them for no charge.
And as always we are stocked on pads and lines and rotors and ready to go!
For the remainder of this Month anyone wanting to get into a BBK from Racing Brake will get 15% off their entire order if they order a complete set Front BBK and rear Rotors and Pads!
RA-Eight 06-04-2009, 01:35 PM That's excellent customer support right there.
Brice - Wouldn't the BBK caliper bracket have to change since the rotors sit further out?
TopGear8 06-04-2009, 01:37 PM ^RA, I want to see some pics of your new setup!
Race Roots 06-04-2009, 01:38 PM That is correct!
If you need new rotor hats due to rubbing issues you would get new adapters for mounting the caliper and Rotor Hats.
Not to mention the hardware needed for the change as well!
So lets support the Company that supports our community!
RA-Eight 06-04-2009, 02:41 PM That is correct!
If you need new rotor hats due to rubbing issues you would get new adapters for mounting the caliper and Rotor Hats.
Not to mention the hardware needed for the change as well!
Beautiful, where do I sign up? This is perfect timing because I was seriously getting ready to take a dremel to that shield. :banghead:
Thanks also for looking into this, Brice!
Race Roots 06-04-2009, 02:56 PM Beautiful, where do I sign up? This is perfect timing because I was seriously getting ready to take a dremel to that shield. :banghead:
Thanks also for looking into this, Brice!
Already have a set they sent me in stock so I can pass that along to you no worries, going out today.
As a side note THIS ONLY APPLIES TO THE DEEPER OFFSET BBK KIT.
All standard Sport Rotors and Two Piece Rotors are fine.
RA-Eight 06-04-2009, 10:09 PM Thanks Brice!
As a small token of my gratitude: ;)
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rx8thunder 06-04-2009, 10:15 PM ^ Looks sweet. Just installed my open slot BBK last weekend - black.
RA-Eight 06-04-2009, 10:23 PM ^ Looks sweet. Just installed my open slot BBK last weekend - black.
Thanks! Did you get the deeper offset kit? Do you experience any light clunking sound during light braking at slow stops?
Rotr8 06-04-2009, 10:59 PM PMs sent to Fluid and RA about the issues we discussed last week and how to resolve the issue....
Race Roots 06-05-2009, 12:39 AM Thank you for communicating me on this, I talked to Mike from Racing Brake and we are all ears.
We need to pinpoint exactly what the issue is then we can go forward.
rx8thunder 06-06-2009, 03:46 PM Thanks! Did you get the deeper offset kit? Do you experience any light clunking sound during light braking at slow stops?
No, do not have the deeper offset kit. No clunking noise to speak of.
Was at the track yesterday and the brakes performed superbly. I find them to be firmer than OEM, not softer. No fade at all. Very happy with them.
Rotr8 06-06-2009, 04:03 PM I already have the deeper offset to accomodate my wheels and I am still experiences the clunking under light braking....
Rotr8 06-06-2009, 04:25 PM heres one issue I see I have previously discussed this with RA and he too is checking the rears for clearance issues...
These are the rears, the calipers are colliding with the bottom of the bolts that fasten the seats to the hats,,,
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Race Roots 06-06-2009, 05:03 PM Interesting!
Let me call Mike Monday or Tuesday to discuss.
rx8thunder 06-09-2009, 07:43 PM ^ Brice, any news?
Race Roots 06-10-2009, 07:47 AM Yeah it was an odd occurence that Racing Brake has not seen before.
"Regarding the customer with the hardware interfering with the bracket. The only solution we have is to ask the customer to use a dremel tool or file to slightly file down either the hardware, or the caliper bracket. The interference is minimal, so grinding need only be minimal. The brackets come from the Mazda factory as they are cast, with slight variations from bracket to bracket. Before this incident (as well as another incident with a 350z driver that might be related), we hadn’t heard of this problem before."
RA-Eight 06-13-2009, 01:59 PM Appreciate the follow-up, Brice. I did confirm that the rear nuts were in contact with the OE brackets, which would explain the scraping noise coming from the rear. This morning, I used a dremel to file down the rotor hardware. Double checked to verify that everything cleared.
Took the car out for a drive. Noise from the rear is eliminated. However, I determined that clunking sound was not related to the rear interference issue. The noise is indeed coming from the front. Again, it's a clunking sound only at low speed braking. As if the caliper pistons are slamming against the rotor, like turning a deadbolt lock.
RA-Eight 06-13-2009, 02:07 PM Another thing, are the caliper pistons supposed to be covered with a rubber cap/covering? I wonder if the clunk sound is the metal on metal, piston on pad clunk.
Rotr8 06-13-2009, 02:17 PM ^^^ I was wondering the same thing, when I first opened the kit I was like where is the piston, after a couple secs I figured that it was there , as thin as it is though...
TeamRX8 06-13-2009, 04:07 PM Took the car out for a drive. Noise from the rear is eliminated. However, I determined that clunking sound was not related to the rear interference issue. The noise is indeed coming from the front.
What are you using for a wheel lug nut torquing value?
Rotr8 06-13-2009, 04:24 PM Im using 85ft lbs, and am having the same issue, its not a click from loose lugs, I know what that sounds like, its a heavier, louder clunk... And again only during light braking,,,
RA-Eight 06-13-2009, 11:12 PM What are you using for a wheel lug nut torquing value?
108 ft./lbs. Like Greg said, it's not the "snapping" sound that was in a TSB a few years back. I remember that sound as well, with stock wheels and low speed turns.
Race Roots 06-16-2009, 08:43 AM Everything is now back in stock, we have the majority of our stocking order enroute to us and those that have been waiting will be receiving their order shortly.
Thanks!
Race Roots 06-22-2009, 10:23 AM We will be restocked on everything today and Wednesday all remaining orders will go out same day product comes in we are waiting on.
We will now be stocking Super Blue becasue I get so many requests and none of my local suppliers can get it!
Thank you for everyone's patience!
Race Roots 06-24-2009, 12:38 AM Everything came in a day early!!!
Orders are out and plenty of Rotors and Pads in stock!
20% Off our sale prices for the NON-Sport Slotted Rotors Only!
$180 for the Front Set!!!
PM for ordering options!
Race Roots 07-13-2009, 11:06 AM 1-piece rears are going to be on backorder for 1-2 months I have 20 sets incoming.
Race Roots 07-30-2009, 09:00 AM Currently have an extra special price on the deeper offset BBK's Very Limtied Time only! PM for more details.
Also as always stock on all you Brake Pad needs. The Rear Slotted are still on Back Order.
Two Piece in stock and Ready to go!
Race Roots 08-28-2009, 03:11 PM Now on special are Racing Brake Stainless Steel Brake Lines for a complete set for only $90!!
As well as ET300 Brake Pads for only $110!!
So pads and lines for $200!
Ordering is easy and a couple clicks away! (https://www.fluidmotorsports.com/p-85-brakes-and-accesories.aspx)
Lifetime warranty and getting rid of the spongy feeling of rubber hoses, not to mention the clear sheathing to protect from the elements is win win!
Buy from Brand Names you know, not to mention our 2 Free Shirts deal is still on with orders over $200 so get some pads and new lines today!
Enter Coupon code Free Shirt to get two shirts today! Don't forget to add one shirt to checkout and we will send one Black Mazdaspeed shirt and One I Love my RX-8 shirt as well!
Race Roots 09-08-2009, 09:53 AM Rear Slotted Rotors are going to be back in stock tomorrow so get your orders in now! :)
Same Specials still apply PM for a very nice price on an Open Slotted BBK Red or Black your choice!
NoOdLe BoY 09-08-2009, 03:13 PM hmmm. :suspect:
No, i have to stop. lol
Race Roots 09-08-2009, 04:45 PM hmmm. :suspect:
No, i have to stop. lol
Free Shipping on ALL BBK's!
NoRotorNoMotor 09-09-2009, 11:01 PM I'm on my second set of ET 500's and I'd like to report that they are MOST EXCELLENT!!!
Highly recommended!!
Race Roots 09-29-2009, 03:26 PM All Stocked up on Racing Brake and Hawk pads!!
Race Roots 11-02-2009, 06:11 PM Rotors and Staged upgrades ready to go!
ZOOMBY 12-20-2009, 04:52 PM Hi Brice,
Hope your well.
Just wanted to know, if you have received my inquiry, sent to you last 11/12 via your website. If not, I can resend it, to you. It regards, your break Stage II upgrades option. Please let me know, as your prompt reply to my inquiry, is much appreciated.
Ps: I know you were, on family committments recently(Wedding), as per other thread. So I know you have been busy, but Id like to know you have received my inquiry, at least.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers Mate,
Waldo - ZOOMBY - Australia
Race Roots 12-21-2009, 09:19 AM Hi Brice,
Hope your well.
Just wanted to know, if you have received my inquiry, sent to you last 11/12 via your website. If not, I can resend it, to you. It regards, your break Stage II upgrades option. Please let me know, as your prompt reply to my inquiry, is much appreciated.
Ps: I know you were, on family committments recently(Wedding), as per other thread. So I know you have been busy, but Id like to know you have received my inquiry, at least.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers Mate,
Waldo - ZOOMBY - Australia
I remember the email, let me see if I replied to it, if not I will resend!
Thanks
ZOOMBY 12-21-2009, 07:37 PM Thanks Brice for taking time out and answering my questions :) .. I have received your PM, and I will be replying shortly.
Cheers,
Waldo
Race Roots 12-29-2009, 08:26 PM A set of Racing Brake Two Piece Slotted Rotors with your name on it!
PM for the special price :)
ZOOMBY 01-07-2010, 08:27 PM Hey Brice,
Just paid directly through Paypal, for my order of "Hawk HPS Stage 2 Brake Upgrade" :rock: .
Thanks once again :) for your help, with shipping and assistance with my questions.
Cheers,
Waldo - ZOOMBY
Race Roots 01-13-2010, 02:20 PM Specials for Racing Brake Pads!
PM for combo specials for ET300, ET500, and ET800 which are all in stock!
SayNoToPistons 01-29-2010, 10:24 PM PM'd concerning pads.
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