I know the AP dyno feature will never be completely accurate, but just for funsies lets post our results. I did 3 pulls and wrote down the one that "could be" accurate.

349.99 HP @ 8399 rpm
236.55 TQ @ 2677 rpm

-Yambo

I wonder how close the AP dyno is to a real one.
Here is mine:
232.46HP @ 6802 rpm
182.33TQ @ 5231 rpm
(above numbers changed from original post because these were taken on a flat highway)

Not too bad considering my mods.
I'm also on the MM base tune map, so I'll do a run after each new map and see if anything changes.

I also wonder. I dyno'ed today and I'll do the AP tomorrow and make a comparison.
Should be interesting.

Hmm. Did you stop the pull @7k rpm?? Your max HP# should be higher based on the TQ#.

I wonder if we should use vehicle+driver when inputting the vehicle weight

I also wonder. I dyno'ed today and I'll do the AP tomorrow and make a comparison.
Should be interesting.

Awesome... thanks Easy!

*scribed for results* :)

huh? the ap does dyno numbers now?

huh? the ap does dyno numbers now?

Yup, under 'Performance'... same section that you can get a 0-60 and 1/4 mile time.

Just to clarify for those who haven't done this on the AP, these measurements are taken (by default) in 3rd gear from 2000 to 7000 rpm.

^Ahh see thats what I was telling my friend Mike they dyno in the UK in 3rd gear there for post different numbers than we do. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

301hp naturally aspirated... bleh

Yup, under 'Performance'... same section that you can get a 0-60 and 1/4 mile time.
sweet, I will have to mess with it once I actually get my turbo back in and tuned....:icon_no2:

So my first AP dyno posted above was the first time I tried it.
I wasn't sure how it was going to work and hesitated at the beginning of the log.
Plus, I didn't do this on the highway because my dumbass didn't think about how fast I was going to go in 3rd gear at 7000 rpm :icon_no2:

So today on my way to the parent's house I did a few logs on a flat highway and these were my max numbers:
232.46HP @ 6802 rpm
182.33TQ @ 5231 rpm

I did three logs and they varied by about 10, but I don't think you'll ever get three logs with the same data.
I'm curious what Easy comes back with on his Dyno comparison.
I'll do a few more logs on the same stretch of highway I got the above numbers from and see how they compare from day to day.

Going out now to check.

301hp naturally aspirated... bleh

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

Lima Oscar Lima

301 NA is very impressive ;)

301 NA is very impressive ;)

"You're lucky that 100-shot of NOS didn't blow the welds on the intake."

Oh wait... Easy knows about blowing up intake manifolds :rollingla

3d gear 2000 to 8000

205.18hp @7894 rpms
147.10tq @5890 rpms

I posted up these numbers the other day. I will do another on my way to work and see if there is any consistency to them....

Like everyone else I was getting some crazy high numbers and found that if you try and start in a higher rpm (higher than 2000 or so) you will see numbers like 380 or 491 NA.

Must be a new feature that's come out since I've been in the sand cause I don't remember that, cool though.

One nice thing is that if you choose to run in 3rd gear, it'll wait until you are in 3rd gear.
Then once you're in that gear, it'll wait until you drop below the beginning RPM (2K is default) before it begins the log.

Must be a new feature that's come out since I've been in the sand cause I don't remember that, cool though.

this feature just came out a few weeks ago. Beta updates FTW!

Here is a question for you guys... shouldn't we be doing these AP Dyno runs in 4th gear instead of 3rd?

Going out now to check.

Wow that must be a serious run ;)

Here is a question for you guys... shouldn't we be doing these AP Dyno runs in 4th gear instead of 3rd?

Not many have an area where they can "safely" do a 2k-8k run in 4th gear.

I, however, have access to a couple of roads that fit the bill. I will do a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gear pull and post the results.

-Yambo

Everyone also needs to keep in mind that just as with a "real" dyno, everyone will have different results, even with identical mods/lack thereof.

-Yambo

Wow that must be a serious run ;)

Easy where art thou?

More specifically, don't we usually do "real" dyno runs in 4th gear?

I updated my accessport firmware and it added the dynamometer submenu in the performance tab, but I cannot use it. When I select it, it gives me an error message that my vehicle is not supported and I should contact cobb.
How can I resolve this?
My rx8 is a EuroDM 2006 mt 4 port model. Is it going to be supported in future updates?

I updated my accessport firmware and it added the dynamometer submenu in the performance tab, but I cannot use it. When I select it, it gives me an error message that my vehicle is not supported and I should contact cobb.
How can I resolve this?
My rx8 is a EuroDM 2006 mt 4 port model. Is it going to be supported in future updates?

It's possible there's something required in the PCM that COBB has not gotten Euro support for yet. It's possible the next update will give you that support.

It's possible there's something required in the PCM that COBB has not gotten Euro support for yet. It's possible the next update will give you that support.

Let's hope so! I wanted to do some dyno runs today!

:(

Judging by the numbers people have gotten, it seems highly "optimistic".

Judging by the numbers people have gotten, it seems highly "optimistic".

True... but it would be nice to have a rough % to go by (if possible).
Like once you log your dyno through the AP, take 10% off (for example) and that is roughly what you MAY get on a real dyno.
But people do need to keep in mind that this is just a fun addition to the AP and shouldn't be taken seriously.

Easy where art thou?

Wow that must be a serious run ;)

Sorry guys. I was moving and all that was involved with that the last couple of days.

Had to update the firm ware. Then I was resetting the parameters and finally tried it and I'm not sure I did it right. I was talking to MM about it and to be honest he has not looked at it yet.
Maybe I can try it again tomorrow. Trying to find a place where I don't have to worry about the local PD is kind of hard. I'm going to try 2nd gear. And that takes me to 90 mph. :uhh: 2000 - 9000 rpm

Sorry guys. I was moving and all that was involved with that the last couple of days.

Had to update the firm ware. Then I was resetting the parameters and finally tried it and I'm not sure I did it right. I was talking to MM about it and to be honest he has not looked at it yet.
Maybe I can try it again tomorrow. Trying to find a place where I don't have to worry about the local PD is kind of hard. I'm going to try 2nd gear. And that takes me to 90 mph. :uhh: 2000 - 9000 rpm


90MPH?! Isnt that what 3rd gear does for the manual version?
DAMN.

90MPH?! Isnt that what 3rd gear does for the manual version?
DAMN.

1st gear 51mph
2nd gear 92 mph
3rd gear 125 mph
And then I have no 4th gear due to the MPH cutoff at 125. :banghead:

1st gear 51mph
2nd gear 92 mph
3rd gear 125 mph
And then I have no 4th gear due to the MPH cutoff at 125. :banghead:

Thank god...we don't need you going any faster than that!

You forget, Todd, due to Erick's old age he has no fear of death. That is why he's so fast on the track

I just noticed that my beta firmware is 1.3.1.0 and not 1.3.2.0. Maybe that's why the dyno feature doesn't work!
Is 1.3.2.0 not ready for the european models of accessport?
No matter how many times I tried to update, I stay with version 1.3.1.0-8571!
The beta firmware option is enabled on accessport updater and the beta accessport updater also!
In v1.3.1.0 on cobb site it says that "Users will be asked to re-flash the map to the ECU to activate this. Users with custom maps will need to ask their tuners to resave the maps with AccesTUNER Pro v1.7.0.12"
How can I tell if my tuners maps have been saved with v1.7.0.12 of AccessTuner Pro? Is there a problem if they are saved from a previous version?

1st gear 51mph
2nd gear 92 mph
3rd gear 125 mph
And then I have no 4th gear due to the MPH cutoff at 125. :banghead:


lol... you would probably end up staying at 125mph since 4th goes up to 185!

So that's basically 4th gear for the manual version. Damn, that's just crazy, no wonder their so slow... No offense.

I just noticed that my beta firmware is 1.3.1.0 and not 1.3.2.0. Maybe that's why the dyno feature doesn't work!
Is 1.3.2.0 not ready for the european models of accessport?
No matter how many times I tried to update, I stay with version 1.3.1.0-8571!
The beta firmware option is enabled on accessport updater and the beta accessport updater also!
In v1.3.1.0 on cobb site it says that "Users will be asked to re-flash the map to the ECU to activate this. Users with custom maps will need to ask their tuners to resave the maps with AccesTUNER Pro v1.7.0.12"
How can I tell if my tuners maps have been saved with v1.7.0.12 of AccessTuner Pro? Is there a problem if they are saved from a previous version?

Current beta firmware is 1.3.2.1-9101, so you are doing something wrong.
You will need to have your maps updated to use the new firmware, though.

my spreadsheet's dyno function works better then this thing... i just got 310 rwhp now

Is that too much?

only by about 130hp or so...

Just curious r0tor... did you use the default settings (3028lbs (I think), 3rd gear, 2K-7K RPM)

lol... you would probably end up staying at 125mph since 4th goes up to 185!

So that's basically 4th gear for the manual version. Damn, that's just crazy, no wonder their so slow... No offense.

Mine is not slow. 183.2 RWHP. It be fast.

Current beta firmware is 1.3.2.1-9101, so you are doing something wrong.
You will need to have your maps updated to use the new firmware, though.

What could I be doing wrong? It's not like it is rocket science!

:banghead:
:rant:

Just curious r0tor... did you use the default settings (3028lbs (I think), 3rd gear, 2K-7K RPM)

i think i added 200lbs for myself and then chose 2nd gear and 3000 - 9000 rpms

1st gear 51mph
2nd gear 92 mph
3rd gear 125 mph
And then I have no 4th gear due to the MPH cutoff at 125. :banghead:

Very confused - the fastest I've seen in 2nd gear is 65 mph at redline. And I thought that top speed was limited to 148

that's for the automatic (4 gears, different ratios)

that's for the automatic (4 gears, different ratios)

Ahhhhhhh, thanks!

Easy E seems to have upped his redline from the default 7.5k. 50mph in first gear? That's crazy!

Do you have an extra tranny cooler?

LOL - NA '04 with weak compression...

252.08 HP @ 2586 RPM
511.97 FTLBS @ 2586 RPM

:lol2:

199.5-HP
172.0-TQ
2000 - 7000k 3rd gear.

I am sure with the mods that i have done and running a 9.1 @ 72 mph at the 1/8 mile, these numbers are really close if not low (just a little):)! well maybe not the Torque!!!:squint:

LOL - NA '04 with weak compression...

252.08 HP @ 2586 RPM
511.97 FTLBS @ 2586 RPM

:lol2:

diesel powa! lol

diesel powa! lol

LOL - now that I think about it, the HP feels about right - weird.

My compression is improving.

Really what you need to do is do a run with your properly tuned map, then either uninstall the AP or choose "stock style map" and then run again.

I'm sure the results will be more accurate for CHANGES in power rather than absolute power #'s. And more interesting too....

I will do this in the next few days....

[I know the AP dyno feature will never be completely accurate, but just for funsies lets post our results. I did 3 pulls and wrote down the one that "could be" accurate.

253 & 183 ....
gonna try it again tomorrow, for the first night using my ap, getting jeff his required datalogs and so fourth, I thought it was a pretty cool feature


didn't really care for the 2.86 60' time on the 1/4 mile time feature though... :(

stock dyno done yesterday 5/8/09 1st pull 3rd gear 179.75hp 127.42tq thats after correction pre-correction was 183hp ... also did pull in 4th and got 135 ft lbs of torque. run conditions were 76 degrees and 31% humidity

I tried doing a back to back test on my way home from school, but the AP won't recognize that i'm in gear unless I use 3rd gear, even though it lets me select 3rd. I don't know if this has been fixed with the most recent flash, anyone else have this problem?

I'll try again, but I'll have to go out of my way to make sure I can max out 3rd gear safely.

hmm, this sucks.

has cobb decided to support vista 64 bit yet?

if not, im fuxxed. or mac os x.

yea, so this is still screwed up on vista 64 bit. wtf cobb, please fix this?

so i went to a friends house and updated this. at first i was like, "man this is cool, im loving the update!"

then i try to check my horsepower and the accessport keeps turning off when i hit bumps.

finally i make it, i do 2000-9000rpm. i enter 3169. 3029+140. and im off.

301hp@8750hp.

when did someone install a turbo into my car without me noticing the increase in power?

would tire size affect the numbers? by affecting the overall distance the car traveled?

would tire size affect the numbers? by affecting the overall distance the car traveled?

Yes. The "dyno" numbers are going to be based on vehicle speed, which is not accurate if you have different sized tires.

here's some dynos

there's 1 stock,
1 with cobb stage1,
and 3 with kanes tune.
i'll post another cobb stage1 in the next post. only lets me do 5.

looks like pretty good data to me.

another cobb stage1

214-222.... hmm; would be nice - but probably a bit on the high side.... the change from the old though is nice.

shh shh.

So I finally got around to doing this. Little run down on the car.

2005 4 Port AT
SR midpipe (catless)
Mazdaspeed V2 catback
AccessPort, Mazdamaniac tune, redline 9000.
BHR Ignition kit. Dwell adjusted.
AEM CAI
ZEX Nitrous, 75 shot

Weight 3100
2nd gear pull
5000 rpm to 9000 rpm.


231 HP 7154 rpm
210 Torque 5355 rpm

:bootyshak

Nice, thats a fast azz 4port AT!!!

Below is my best. The pull was from 3000 to 8300 rpms in third gear:

Oh and this is without my final tune from Jeffe....

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/3405/2461/33511230004_large.jpg

Wow Peak torque at 7000 rpm. That's a first. Numbers look good for the mods DarthRX8.

I really don't know how accurate this actually is. But mine is a little higher than I expected. About 10 HP. So just to see how accurate this really is. I'll be doing a Dyno on Sunday after SSXII. So I can compare the numbers.

Yeah, I know that these numbers mean nothing. The one thing that I do like however is that everytime I have added a mod my numbers have gone up.

The first one I took was 205hp/ 147tq @ 5800 (Aem intake, AP (about 4 away from my final tune))

Added the BHR ignition and another tune from Jeff - 211hp/ 158tq @ 6910

Added the RB exhaust and another tune from Jeff - 217hp/ 162tq @7018

Hopefully when I get one of your BHR midpipes and upload my final tune from Jeff (in my inbox but can't install until I get home), I will see another jump. :)