I was wondering if anyone knew if Apexi, will ever make a Power FC for the Rx-8? I have one in my 3rd gen Rx-7, and love the control it gives. I've checked out the apexi web page, but I could'nt find any info. Has anyone heard of any rumors in Japan about this? CJ

No rumors yet that I know of. Im not sure they will, but I think they are thinking about it.

They are know for getting too excited about N/A vehicles, so you know..... Since the trust turbo kit is coming out, the others will follow, so I think in DUE time it will be released.

I'd be very surprised if they do one. Everything on the car is controlled by the ECU and it talks to the other modules too (ABS, EPS, etc.). Very difficult to do all that. Piggyback ECUs are much easier on this car.

Canzoomer was, at one time, talking about developing a multi-map setup using an Apexi (or similar) controller. I believe he was talking about doing one after he gets his stage II mod out the door (most likely sometime in Jan-Feb '04) and that his multi-map setup would include the same settings as Stage I, Stage II, and an "Economy" map.

Hmm..maybe AEM will come out with an EMS setup...or Greddy will come out with a E-Manage piggy.

I talked to Rob@Pineapple Racing last night about programable fuel controlers....He should have one on the market by the end of Janurary. Target price is $1300. I'm very interested in a programable setup thats plug and play. No cutting or hacking....:) CJ

That's great that Rob's making one! Motec should have one out soon as well. Though, it might be for the StarMazda series and not for the RX-8. Besides, I'm not sure if it's compatible with existing sensors.

Has anyone tried hooking up an Apexi Super AFC to control the fuel?

Jason

Originally posted by Jason
Has anyone tried hooking up an Apexi Super AFC to control the fuel?

Jason

I contemplated the S-AFC before I bought the E-Manage.
I don't see why it wouldn't work, but for the same $350 or so you can have the much more capable E-Manage doing the same thing and more.

No codes thrown by running the E-Manage?

I was actually contemplating getting one of those for my Civic before I picked up the AEM EMS due to more technical supporting from local dealers.

I might end up getting the E-Manage after all then...

Originally posted by -=Zeqs=-
No codes thrown by running the E-Manage?

I was actually contemplating getting one of those for my Civic before I picked up the AEM EMS due to more technical supporting from local dealers.

I might end up getting the E-Manage after all then...

Runs like a charm. Instant power gains. Seriously.

Check out the two threads I have open on the thing:

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17055&highlight=greddy
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17153&highlight=greddy

PFC--I talked to Apexi today. They said no plan to even make one. Although things are changind they never jump on the car for the first year its new due to the bugs and information thats lacking..

Thats all I want, an rx8 where its a/c doesn't work. I have a pfc on my 94 rx7 and while its great, my AC only works on position 1 due to the voltage drops. I would rather have a piggy back.

I never had that problem on my 7

Yeah, my P-fc thing is kinda a pain. But my cars AC works on 1,2 and 4. Sucks you only have one level.:( I'd still like to the see the P-fc for the US market though. CJ

PFC a pain.... Humm this is the first time in quite a long time I have heard this

*sorry about the quick thread steal*

Humm could it be your FD is 10 years old and things start to get weak and wear out over time?

I meant that the 3rd setting on the AC does'nt work. Other than that, I love the p-fc. BTW, Its just not something with my car, or zerobangers....its pretty much everyones who has a p-fc. CJ

Greddy in Japan does make "easy connect" harness adapters for some cars. Hopefully they'll do an RX-8 appliation.

Basically, it's a harness that goes between the stock ECU and the wiring harness, and the E-manage harness is tapped into that. Total plug and play, no modification of the stock harness at all.

Dale

Originally posted by Jt-Imports
I never had that problem on my 7

because the power FC was designed for the japanese market. the us rx7's all have this problem.

Originally posted by Jt-Imports
PFC a pain.... Humm this is the first time in quite a long time I have heard this

*sorry about the quick thread steal*

Humm could it be your FD is 10 years old and things start to get weak and wear out over time?

its not about wearing out. I can plug my stock ecu in and the ac works on all settings. with the power FC my ac worked on all settings except 3, then after about 9 months it stopped working on all except position 1 which obviously is not enough to cool the car down.

Still the first I have heard about it, but thats a bummer.

My A/C is in a box in the garage anyway, since its a waste....

search the power fc forum on rx7club.com you will find a million posts.

Easy fix. Just search as already stated.

Originally posted by RX-8 friend
Easy fix. Just search as already stated.

there is no easy fix. the "easy fix" you refer to is to get a new engine harness which is over $1000 and doesn't always work. the other is to bypass the ECU which causes a host of problems. I tried to bypass the ECU and it still didn't work, although I have a 94 and the instructions were for a 93.

Again, i have searched and searched. its a PIA.

Originally posted by dcfc3s
Greddy in Japan does make "easy connect" harness adapters for some cars. Hopefully they'll do an RX-8 appliation.

Basically, it's a harness that goes between the stock ECU and the wiring harness, and the E-manage harness is tapped into that. Total plug and play, no modification of the stock harness at all.

Dale

we sourced out the connectors here, but the buy in is nuts ($8k)

Originally posted by zerobanger
because the power FC was designed for the japanese market. the us rx7's all have this problem.

My AC works with my PFC. Do you have the ver. 5.08 PFC?

Originally posted by Rick
My AC works with my PFC. Do you have the ver. 5.08 PFC?

yes its the 5.08. Its ok, I dont care anymore. I have my Rx8 for hot days.

Originally posted by j9fd3s
we sourced out the connectors here, but the buy in is nuts ($8k)


No reason to buy in, just talk Sweet. I havent bought in to a single company. I have several shops I work close with and they all bought in, NO IDEA WHY but hey, you get some parts and goodies (stuff I dont need)

Zerobanger,

So, are you saying that you DID try the PFC AC bypass where you hardwire the AC system to perform as "stock" and it still didn't work? When I did this to mine it worked like a charm (went back to ice cold air). Have you had your system checked for freon? I know that sounds really crazy, but I've never heard of anyone trying the hardwire fix without success. I've heard of people doing the mod and having to reverse it because the car kept dying, but never anyone who didn't get cold air. Just curious!

Originally posted by RCCAZ 1
Zerobanger,

So, are you saying that you DID try the PFC AC bypass where you hardwire the AC system to perform as "stock" and it still didn't work? When I did this to mine it worked like a charm (went back to ice cold air). Have you had your system checked for freon? I know that sounds really crazy, but I've never heard of anyone trying the hardwire fix without success. I've heard of people doing the mod and having to reverse it because the car kept dying, but never anyone who didn't get cold air. Just curious!

yes i'm saying it didn't work. Again, I have a 1994, the wire colors were different but I DID count the positions so I was doing the right wires on the schematic.

it has nothing to do with freon, I plug stock ecu in and everything is fine.

Sorry again ZB. Being as I live in Phoenix the car was basically undriveable with the Power FC from May through September until I tried the hardwire method. Now it works fine as long as I remember to turn it off on WOT. Hope you find a solution that works for you short of parking the car during the summer!

Ok...has this gone a little off topic or what? :D CJ