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ExquisikRenesis
05-24-2003, 01:42 AM
I dont know bout you guys, but i really wanted veilside to make a body kit for the new mazda rx-8...

but the only way to get it is to demand via veilside website for a mazda rx-8 body kits...

in order for veilside to make a body kit dat customer demand, there must be at least 1000 demands...

I think that through this forum, there should b at least 200 demands...

If you guys want veilside to make body kits 4 the new mazda rx-8, please make ur demands rite now at www.veilside.com and send them an email demanding them 2 make a body kit for the rx-8...

dying_here
05-24-2003, 01:55 AM
demand as in 1000 ppl want to see them make a kit or actually 1000 customer?

Hercules
05-24-2003, 02:41 AM
I think body kits are pointless. They make a car slower.

So no vote from me.

TJRX8
05-24-2003, 11:19 AM
Didn't see anything on the site that would warrant a vote from me.
All you ricers better get busy if want a kit from these guys.

J/K guys, chill already. :cool:

ExquisikRenesis
05-25-2003, 03:17 AM
basically... i'm just using 1000 as an example, but it doesnt have to be customer, as long as there are a lot of ppl that want to see or to have the veilside body kit for the mazda rx-8, than it would be accomplish...:D

dying_here
05-25-2003, 04:02 AM
i have not seen many veliside kits in real life ( not alot of ppl can afford them where im from)
but so far im really impressed by the '00+ Celica kit, very beautiful

Fd3BOOST
05-25-2003, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by Hercules
I think body kits are pointless. They make a car slower.

So no vote from me.

Really?
I dont agree with you on that one. I am not a big fan of body kits either, but there is nothing wrong with a front fascia and a wing,or rear diffuser. In some cases they will improve airflow to the radiator and improve on drag coeffiency.

But Veilside is the worst!! NEVER!

Igoslow
05-27-2003, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by Fd3BOOST


Really?
I dont agree with you on that one. I am not a big fan of body kits either, but there is nothing wrong with a front fascia and a wing,or rear diffuser. In some cases they will improve airflow to the radiator and improve on drag coeffiency.

But Veilside is the worst!! NEVER!

I must agree.. viel side makes some ugly kits..

I am looking forward to wat RE-amemiya has to offer or FEED

But they don't neccessarly make the car slower. If using urethane it should almost be as much as stock weight. in which case the side skirts would be the only additional wright... a few pounds won't hurt. And if you want more speed.. ADD a BIG TURBO.. more air more fuel... hahah offset for the gain in weight..

Hercules
05-27-2003, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by Igoslow


I must agree.. viel side makes some ugly kits..

I am looking forward to wat RE-amemiya has to offer or FEED

But they don't neccessarly make the car slower. If using urethane it should almost be as much as stock weight. in which case the side skirts would be the only additional wright... a few pounds won't hurt. And if you want more speed.. ADD a BIG TURBO.. more air more fuel... hahah offset for the gain in weight..
Well it's RARE that body kits make a car more aerodynamic or decrease weight.

Most of the time they are purely for looks, and to be quite honest, take away from a very elegant and sporty image that the RX-8 offers. Even the RX-7 (every generation really) has had a sport and class to it that body kits in my opinion, just nullify.

I'm quite pleased with the power of the RX-8, but the idea of the entire car is *lightweight* and high revving. When you add things like bulky body kits (and there may be light weight ones too, in which case I suppose I'm indifferent, except like I said... it takes away class) simply detract from the whole idea of the car.

When you add weight to a light weight car it's in my mind... rather pointless. Simple and subtle exterior upgrades are fine by me, some add a little 'panache' to the car, but the overdone body kits, well.... no.

Efini 8
05-28-2003, 11:12 PM
veilside makes great kits. some are for show, some are for performance enhancement - lighter, more aerodynamic, better airflow for engine. some are both. veilside is an incredible company, the founder, veil something is a master at aerodynamics and his designs I really respect and his work is unsurpassed in many applications. veilside doesnt need 1000people to bother them, they make kits for all sporty cars that are in japan and are venturing into european sports cars. if they did the rx-7 with 2 different versions... you can expect a bodykit for the 8 from veilside.

ExquisikRenesis
05-30-2003, 01:52 AM
veilside makes great kits. some are for show, some are for performance enhancement - lighter, more aerodynamic, better airflow for engine. some are both.

Yes, i would agree with you on that...basically, every true tuner and racer out there all know that veilside body kit can possibly be the best kit out there, if it not for show than it's for performance, if it not for performance thatn it's for show. Their kit may be expensive, but as far as i had known...their kit last the longest on the street.

ExquisikRenesis
05-30-2003, 01:54 AM
veilside doesnt need 1000people to bother them, they make kits for all sporty cars that are in japan and are venturing into european sports cars. if they did the rx-7 with 2 different versions... you can expect a bodykit for the 8 from veilside

originally, every body kit company doesnt just make a body kit for any car, there must be demands in order for them to make the body kit for the car... so i thought veilside would be the same as all the other.

Efini 8
05-30-2003, 04:31 AM
Originally posted by ExquisikRenesis


originally, every body kit company doesnt just make a body kit for any car, there must be demands in order for them to make the body kit for the car... so i thought veilside would be the same as all the other.

the demand for the fortune supra bodykit that retails at $20000 has VERY HIGH DEMAND, but little CONSUMPTION. demand and consumption of a good are two entirely different things

said7
06-04-2003, 05:05 PM
Veilside makes some nice kits but they are way too expensive.

DA-Rx8
06-13-2003, 04:56 AM
Originally posted by said7
Veilside makes some nice kits but they are way too expensive.

agree

moogle
06-20-2003, 04:10 AM
no offense but it looks like non of you guys know the reputation of veilside. The reason their expensive because they spend countless hours using the windtunnels to experiment on their bodykit making sure that each area creates enough downforce for traction and smooth airflow. They are one of the best bodykit company around and most of them are used and tested at the tracks. So whoever thinks veilside is useless think again.

wankelmaniac
06-20-2003, 09:09 AM
moogle said;
....most of them are used and tested at the tracks. So whoever thinks veilside is useless think again.


Yes, it is useless....unless you're going to run it on the track.;)

sixspeed
06-20-2003, 09:54 AM
I don't quite understand the point of the first post. I've already spoken to Veilside in Japan about the RX-8, and they have plans for an RX-8 kit.

No mention of there having to be a demand for it.


-andy-

DA-Rx8
06-21-2003, 02:56 AM
Originally posted by moogle
no offense but it looks like non of you guys know the reputation of veilside. The reason their expensive because they spend countless hours using the windtunnels to experiment on their bodykit making sure that each area creates enough downforce for traction and smooth airflow. They are one of the best bodykit company around and most of them are used and tested at the tracks. So whoever thinks veilside is useless think again.

agree

wakeech
06-21-2003, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by moogle
non of you guys know the reputation of veilside. they spend countless hours using the windtunnels to experiment on their bodykit making sure that each area creates enough downforce for traction and smooth airflow. They are one of the best bodykit company around and most of them are used and tested at the tracks.

horsecrap. show me numbers. in fact, show me ANY shred of evidence that this is true, other than some ricer magazine editorial claim. people run them at tracks, fine. the only thing i've ever heard of vielside doing is drag racing: not exactly the toughest proving ground for an aero package (just look at all the ugly crap that can trap at 200mph with enough horsepower).

RE Amemiya makes some good stuff, and some ricey stuff. no one is exempt from this, as there's a market for "creative" or "different" looks, but these do not offer any significant performance advantage.

prove to me how something that huge, ugly, and universally unfunctional could offer any advantage, and i'll eat my words.

moogle
06-22-2003, 03:57 AM
Originally posted by wakeech

RE Amemiya makes some good stuff, and some ricey stuff. no one is exempt from this, as there's a market for "creative" or "different" looks, but these do not offer any significant performance advantage.

prove to me how something that huge, ugly, and universally unfunctional could offer any advantage, and i'll eat my words.

Looks are subjective... but for me prooving hard facts I don't have any links due to my 56k "takes forever:o ...."
I do recall the top end gt300 supra getting 200+ mph in 5th gear with the help of its dynamic widebody veilside kit.

Also why would a company waste $20,000 for a couple hours of using the windtunnel just to see if it's ugly and useless. "answer logically"

MUGEN/SPOON/VEILSIDE they all got hardproof, if you want proof go search for them because I aint going to waste countless hours on my 56k just to help you bite your own words.

Gord96BRG
07-21-2003, 09:32 PM
Sure, they're aerodynamically beneficial, that's why Veilside's web site refers to the body kits as "Body FASHION" . It's marketing BS if anyone claims any aero benefits from this tacked-on junk.

Originally posted by moogle
I do recall the top end gt300 supra getting 200+ mph in 5th gear with the help of its dynamic widebody veilside kit. Sure, all due to the widebody kit. I don't suppose they ever bothered to figure out that wider = slower, because of greater frontal area. If you're familiar with the Porsche tuner Ruf (they are a real performance tuner, not a cosmetic show tuner), you'd know that for their famous Yellow Bird turbo car that set Road & Track top speed records, and for any other top speed version they do, they choose the narrow Carrera body rather than the wider Turbo body because the narrow car is faster - more aerodynamic.

Those Veilside kits are great for making every car it's applied to look the same. What a great way to express your individuality! Turn your car into something that resembles a bottom feeding catfish that's sucking a lemon, just like all those 10 year old Civics out there. No thanks.

Regards,
Gordon

moogle
07-21-2003, 11:13 PM
what what and what what... that's all I am hearing. Ok, if u have 1200HP and no weight to hold u down u wont get 200 mph, and infact you need that weight or you'll be flying backwards.

Because of greater frontal area??? Have u look at the the body kit??? Its not just the front end... sigh. Like I said again why would a company like veilside/mugen/spoon waste thousands of dollars for a few hours of the windtunnel just to say its useless...Now that's not good marketing and thats just waste of money. Talking about supercars... "porsches so u talk about" did you know the s7 saleen's body is so aerodynamically insane that you can drive it upside down if your going fast enough because each single area has use. Hp can get u so far = u need suspension, the aerodynamic body, chassis, but I bet u knew that right.

Eiyehk eiyehk run ons and comma splice. I understand little here and little there but u have them all over gordon.

jbart1981
07-21-2003, 11:38 PM
It is 3000gt not gt3000 pleez ;)
I drive one and am not aware of any time gains by anyone on the 3si.org site(largest worldwide 3kgt owners group)by adding a body kit. The twin turbo had speed activated aerodynamics in the front fascia and rear spoiler but those cars didn't even come close to 200mph without VERY SIGNIFICANT motor alterations. Ussually custom turbo setup, nitrous and stand alone fuel system computers, along with enlarged injectors and all of the ther items necessary to turn a street car into a full out race vehicle.
The reason why the cars with 320+ horsepower did not have extremely high top speed was due to the high weight o fthe cars from the complicated aerodynamics pieces, 4wheel drive and 4wheel sterring. The latter systems added great increases in drivetrain losses at higher speeds. they did however greatly improve 0-60 times, handling and poor weather condition driving.

sorry for the rant but it seemed necessary to clear up a few misconceptions.

p.s. I love the S7 and it is amaing that it can be driven upside down at 200mph because of the amazing downforce created by the baddass body design.


ok i f'ed up on that one it;s just that so many peoplei talk to screw up tje name it gets annoying after awhile.

moogle
07-22-2003, 02:10 AM
No jbart not 3000gt... Toyota Gt300 top end supra.

Prowla
07-22-2003, 12:31 PM
Looks really are purely subjective. After seeing how Veilside had butchered the beautiful lines of the FD... I really hope not to see them make kits for RX-8s. I'm more curious to see how RE Amemiya, Feed, and perhaps C-West do with the bodykits. All this talk about whether or not it helps gain performance is really not going to make a difference as most (90+%) buy bodykits based on appearance alone.

moogle
07-22-2003, 11:32 PM
90% are ricers;10% know what works.
By the way veilside kills c-west in looks, and c-west/amemiya aren't windtunnel proof so they just ricey and adds nothing to performance.

miata35
07-22-2003, 11:47 PM
By the way veilside kills c-west in looks, and c-west/amemiya aren't windtunnel proof so they just ricey and adds nothing to performance.

I beleive that's a false statement. Besides the fact that c-west kits look much better than a veilside fd, C-west and Amemiya ARE wind tunnel tested and infact are showcased in many japanese racing circuits. Veilsides aren't.

Prowla
07-23-2003, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by moogle
90% are ricers;10% know what works.
By the way veilside kills c-west in looks, and c-west/amemiya aren't windtunnel proof so they just ricey and adds nothing to performance.

Funny u say that... It seems that those 90% that are ricers are usually buying kits that are either Veilside, their knockoffs, or combat body kits. the 10% that know what works go with real quality bodykits such as c-west and RE-Amemiya... Miata35 pretty much hit the nail on the head.

moogle
07-23-2003, 12:30 AM
I have never heard that c-west and amemiyah are windtunnel proof. Show me a site plz that says that c-west and amemiya are windtunneled, and ur comparing Veilside FD to Amemiya FD. Ok, the rx-7 veilside do look a lil bland and it wont hit the amemiya rx-7 kit that I'll admit, BUT have u check out the rsx kit/nissan Z "the suttle one"/supra wide body /integ kit/ s2000 kit they are knock out gorgeous. Also Veilside are very expensive; they can cost up to $20,000 about a car...no 90% of those aren't veilside owners they can't afford it... C-west on the other hand about a grand... U think 90 percent of population can afford it? I don't think so.

Prowla
07-23-2003, 01:28 AM
If you show me where in Veilside's website or any proof that Veilside does windtunnel testing (I've tried searching to verify the fact) I'll take back some of the things I may have said. The thing is, I browsed through their website... None of the bodykits came close to $20000... Most of these bodykits have prices total under $10k... Closest to the $20k mark is the Supra and the Ferrari listed on their website... Although, certainly not THAT cheap, they certainly aren't as expensive as you made it out to be. Besides, I never said 90% can only afford Veilside alone... I did mention knockoffs and whatever... I could be more specific and maybe I should've been. I'll admit, some of the cars do look decent... Ah well, what's the sense of arguing...

The initial question was if Veilside should make kits for the RX-8... Most RX-7 enthusiasts would definitely go against it, and even most of that crowd would be against a bodykit anyway. After seeing what Veilside did to the precious looking FD, I don't want to imagine the looks of an RX-8 kit. Like I said, purely subjective. RX-7 owners like companies they can trust, in this case most of them like RE-Amemiya, Feed, C-West, KnightSport, Mazdaspeed.

moogle
07-23-2003, 03:08 AM
veilside website is mainly for sales. For semi proof on veilside do windtunnels go bottom page. http://www.skylinesdownunder.co.nz/tech/bodykit/bodykits_www.html

Nawh I wasn't even trying to argue I am just enjoying having this kind of discussion. If veilside makes a bodykit for rx-8? HUH? U mean will they make a kit for the rx-8. With their great reputation I think they should; looking good and aiding perfomance is a +. The question is ere go will it look good or will it look bland like the FD.

Looks are subjective but u can usually tell which looks nice which doesn't. Now if u say a kia with giant spoilers, combat kit, 20 in chromes, weed wacker exhaust, and bunch of stickers now yeh ok I say that looks stupid and slows u down. But if you say oh that looks ricey but it adds aid to perfomance you can only talk about its looks and that can only go so far...

Gord96BRG
07-23-2003, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by moogle
Ok, if u have 1200HP and no weight to hold u down u wont get 200 mph, and infact you need that weight or you'll be flying backwards.

Please explain how a Formula1 car can top 200 mph while only weighing 1300 lbs. Without all that weight, it should be flying backwards, right? ;) In truth - weight has nothing to do with top speed - it's strictly a function of power, drag, and frontal area. If you increase the frontal area (which is, put simply, width times height of the car body) there is more drag and the car goes slower, not faster. Downforce vs. lift can also be a factor, but weight has nothing to do with that - you mention the Saleen, which generates genuine downforce as does an F1 car. 99% of bodykits and spoilers on show cars like sport compact cars (I'm trying to be nice and avoid the 'rice' word here!) just add extra drag and frontal area, and do nothing to reduce lift (nevermind generating downforce). Speaking of frontal area -

Because of greater frontal area??? Have u look at the the body kit??? Its not just the front end... sigh. Like I said again why would a company like veilside/mugen/spoon waste thousands of dollars for a few hours of the windtunnel just to say its useless...Now that's not good marketing and thats just waste of money.

Sorry, but this statement makes it obvious that you don't understand what frontal area is - without that understanding, it's no wonder that these stupid marketing claims can make an impression on you. You ask why would a company like Veilside claim to spend $$$ in a windtunnel? Because it's exactly good marketing, and their claim has nothing to do with engineering and aerodynamics. Let's see - they impressed you, right? Lots of people think "Wind tunnel tested, yeah, it must be good!" Yet does their ads state anywhere what those windtunnel results were? Show me proof, windtunnel results, of changes in drag coefficient and overall drag and reduction in lift as a result of installing one of their body kits on a car. I have a degree in Mechanical Engineering, and studied aerodynamics and conducted wind tunnel tests myself - I can guarantee that a Veilside kit will increase overall drag on any car it's installed on, without needing to put it in a tunnel myself. It's basic engineering principles that prove that. Those kits are all about show, period.

Regards,
Gordon

wakeech
07-23-2003, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by Gord96BRG
Lots of people think "Wind tunnel tested, yeah, it must be good!" Yet does their ads state anywhere what those windtunnel results were? Show me proof, windtunnel results, of changes in drag coefficient and overall drag and reduction in lift as a result of installing one of their body kits on a car. I have a degree in Mechanical Engineering, and studied aerodynamics and conducted wind tunnel tests myself - I can guarantee that a Veilside kit will increase overall drag on any car it's installed on, without needing to put it in a tunnel myself. It's basic engineering principles that prove that. Those kits are all about show, period.

Regards,
Gordon

thanks for the backup, Gord.

Prowla
07-23-2003, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by moogle
veilside website is mainly for sales. For semi proof on veilside do windtunnels go bottom page. http://www.skylinesdownunder.co.nz/tech/bodykit/bodykits_www.html

Nawh I wasn't even trying to argue I am just enjoying having this kind of discussion. If veilside makes a bodykit for rx-8? HUH? U mean will they make a kit for the rx-8. With their great reputation I think they should; looking good and aiding perfomance is a +. The question is ere go will it look good or will it look bland like the FD.

Looks are subjective but u can usually tell which looks nice which doesn't. Now if u say a kia with giant spoilers, combat kit, 20 in chromes, weed wacker exhaust, and bunch of stickers now yeh ok I say that looks stupid and slows u down. But if you say oh that looks ricey but it adds aid to perfomance you can only talk about its looks and that can only go so far...

Well, at least we got all we wanted to say out of the way. WHo hooks up a kia anyway? I'd sell it and get me an FC and hook it up.

moogle
07-24-2003, 03:52 AM
I like discussions. Ok, 1st I wasn't even looking at marketing; not once have I read their ads saying they do windtunnel just to sell their kits because they don't need to. Lets see with no add saying they do windtunnels yet they spend money on countless hours of windtunneling...Hmmm now how are they benefiting marketing if their not shouting out that they do windtunnels.

Ok frontal area please explain I would like to know.
Gah I have so much to say... P.M me when ur online. I would like to have a discussion with you.

Can you explain to me also on how can 4 cylinder toyota supra marks 200 mph on stock body. "top end supra gt 300 4 cylinder"

One last thing to add my friend has a veilside rsx and it improve his top end. He ran 14.4 "with just intake/exhaust add on," and he later got 14.1 with the same add on but with the veilside kit.

X-R8ed
07-25-2003, 01:51 PM
i thought supra's were inline 6's. And .3 seconds can be driver error or improved launch not really proof that the kit improved his car's aerodynamics.

wakeech
07-25-2003, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by X-R8ed
i thought supra's were inline 6's.

Toyota went with a very high boost, small displacement four banger for the JGTC... i think they recieved some kind of weight reward for using the smaller engine.

in any case, they won last year, so they gotta be doing something right.

btw: you're right about the .3 seconds... making two runs down the 1320 isn't exactly a scientific test.

swifty949
10-27-2003, 02:56 PM
its up on their website...i dont know how to capture it. But its on www.veilside.com
then click on USA, then click on news.


its a version 1 lip spoiler kit. Available in urethane...

MrWigggles
10-27-2003, 03:07 PM
Front:

MrWigggles
10-27-2003, 03:07 PM
Rear:

MrWigggles
10-27-2003, 03:08 PM
I think it looks O.K., but the Mazdaspeed looks better IMO.

-Mr. Wigggles

1BADZ06
10-27-2003, 03:24 PM
I think it looks real good, for just a lip all the way around.

mikeb
10-27-2003, 03:59 PM
what??????
this is weak for veilside
They make such awesome kits and this is very plain
the front looks almost stock and the sides are the same as factory sides but just two of them.
Is this final?

mikeb
10-27-2003, 04:03 PM
oh I see
its version 1 so their is more to come thank god

anyone see their kit for the evo, its nasty

swifty949
10-27-2003, 04:04 PM
ummm it's a lip spoiler kit. It's meant to be clean and simple. I'm sure if veilside has a full body kit for the car, there would be a lot more design involved.

oops well i posted before you edited...

personally i like the evo kit. very circuit typical kit.

Tamas
10-27-2003, 04:10 PM
Me no likey http://probetalk.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_shrug.gif

m0j0
10-27-2003, 10:51 PM
there definatly the worst side skirts i have seen 4 the 8..

VividRacing.com
10-28-2003, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by mikeb
oh I see
its version 1 so their is more to come thank god

anyone see their kit for the evo, its nasty


My personal favorite is the V3 for the 350Z. That's freakin awsome!

XDEEDUBBX
10-28-2003, 03:24 AM
i think its looks pretty sick...bet the other versions will look even crazier..have you guys seen all the versions for the 350z from veilside?

Irish_in_a_RX8
10-28-2003, 10:47 AM
Looks very Cheap!

wakeech
10-28-2003, 01:11 PM
bottom heavy and ugly.

XDEEDUBBX
10-29-2003, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by wakeech
bottom heavy and ugly.

how is it heavy when it is made from polyurethane? oh by the way..wassup wakeech!

Sup
10-29-2003, 01:00 PM
http://www.veilsidejpn.com/info/img/rx8/rx8_ver1_01.jpg http://www.veilsidejpn.com/info/img/rx8/rx8_ver1_02.jpg

swifty949
10-29-2003, 02:51 PM
repost.

wakeech
10-29-2003, 03:26 PM
visually bottom heavy. the tall sides of the car, the low roof, added with the 3" visual drop, and all that visual mass added around the immediate bottom of the car really weigh it down. looks fugly.

hey deedub.

Strider
10-29-2003, 04:50 PM
I too think that is mostly weak for Veilside. Granted I'm not a fan of their body kits in the first place, but I'm sure that something more ridiculous will come out in the future. No offense to anybody that likes it... I'm just a big fan of the all-go, no-show theory. Just my $.02.

Strider-

mikeb
10-29-2003, 05:16 PM
I do like the back bumper
the pics are better in this repost

Psylence
10-29-2003, 05:19 PM
Is that a lip spoiler or a snowplow??

Looks like someone left the back bumper in the oven and it started to melt and drip off...

rabinabo
10-29-2003, 05:50 PM
The back looks like it's tacked on. It just doesn't flow with the rest of the car.

r0tor
10-29-2003, 06:31 PM
... l00ks like we got a sn0w plow kit now :p

swifty949
10-29-2003, 06:39 PM
its a lip spoiler, does it really look that bad???? It doesnt change the look of the car. The pieces are aadd on and it looks like it's been added on.

panda
10-29-2003, 11:08 PM
yea im not too keen on the back bumper myself....the front one is nice, looks very very clean, but for a show car....im pretty sure id scrape that a whole bunch if i was driving it evry day!
but it looks very nice in general

andrew

XDEEDUBBX
10-30-2003, 06:53 PM
dam...lotta people hating on this kit...besides the mazdaspeed and the r magic kits this one is just as clean...IMO ...but people have different tastes...some people actually think that chrome wheels would look nice on an RX-8 ....hahahha

BRx8
10-30-2003, 09:28 PM
don't like it one bit..it really just looks bolted on...makes the bottom look a lot bigger than it really has to be...without a 7 foot wing it looks like it's missing something

CraziFuzzy
10-30-2003, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by BRx8
...without a 7 foot wing it looks like it's missing something

HA!

I just think it has too many edges on it, I mean, the 8 has a fairly smooth body line, and then to go to that angular skirt, it is just a little too much. That is why everyone seems to like the Mazdaspeed kit so much, it keeps with the curves of the car... makes it look like a really sweet car... vice a car with a really extreme skirt on it.

Kev
10-30-2003, 10:02 PM
Looks like a kit that really belongs on a different car.

Not for me!

s1mike22
10-30-2003, 11:57 PM
not too bad or flashy for a veilside kit, but just doesn't compare to the MS... :)

Efini 8
11-04-2003, 02:49 PM
reminds me of the first Z33 (350z aka Fairlady) they made, simple lip kit, then they came out with full bodykits and WIDE body kits, cant wait for the next versions...

Rx8Past
11-05-2003, 02:55 AM
ugly POS

Jhouse
12-09-2003, 04:52 PM
i guess nobody likes this one

wakeech
12-09-2003, 05:04 PM
*puke* not me.

Jhouse
12-09-2003, 05:08 PM
i think thats a given from you.

Beemer
12-09-2003, 05:19 PM
It would be nice if it was a real wide body conversion for people who want to race their 8. But for a daily ride, it's too rice.

RX8Lover
12-09-2003, 05:19 PM
quite ugly. doesn't look like it goes with the contours of the car. bleh!

mikeb
12-09-2003, 05:46 PM
do you have any back pics
I like the hood and side skirts but the front is too much

Jhouse
12-09-2003, 05:54 PM
i just got it off of veilside's website they didn't have any rearend pics.

mental pimp
12-09-2003, 06:42 PM
all i see is shit on a rx8

JCX
12-09-2003, 10:45 PM
Hey I like it! Looks awesome, if I had red i'd do it to

Way to go, one of the best kits Iv'e seen so far!

another8owner
12-09-2003, 10:55 PM
i like it too. I think the mazdaspeed and ms kit will be done by too many others, kits like this keep your car unique.

as for me, im going to fall in with the rest of the sheep and ordered my mazdaspeed kit a bit ago, i think i really should have waited and most likely the cost of the kits will go down after the cars been around for awhile.

mikeb
12-10-2003, 01:19 AM
it's dissapointing
veilside is great and the rx8 is a cool car to have a unique bodykit
this bodykit is simple and looks like so many others in the import scene
I thought they would make something unique and differnet:mad:

Lock & Load
12-10-2003, 01:54 AM
Jhouse

IT looks great dont worry about wackeech if my face looked like his i would not be using it as an avatar (ha ha ha )

rotarygod
12-10-2003, 01:54 AM
Oh god the humanity! Make it stop!!! All it needs now is a big extra tach and shift light inside and 6 body panels worth of poorly translated Japanese stickers.

In all seriousness though, I personally have never liked anything that Veilside makes. Not a single product for a single car. But there are people that do and if they want to do that to their car, more power to them as long as they are happy.

If I wanted my car to look THAT different from all the other RX-8's out there, it would be called a Honda.

XDEEDUBBX
12-10-2003, 02:05 AM
man i thought that they would have made the version kit 2 better.. i actually liked the version one better..this is also a photochopped pic...but like mike said its disappointing... =(

Jhouse
12-10-2003, 10:28 AM
i know a lot of people would say it looks too ricy but sorry to say this the RX-8 is a rice burner wether we like it or not.

TrAsHeR
12-10-2003, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by mikeb
it's dissapointing
veilside is great and the rx8 is a cool car to have a unique bodykit
this bodykit is simple and looks like so many others in the import scene
I thought they would make something unique and differnet:mad:

yea, that's what I thought. I'm sure if people don't like it, VeilSide will come up with some different versions like on the 350Z, at least I hope.

It looks ok but I wouln't mount it ;)

said7
12-10-2003, 02:28 PM
Wow that is one ugly ass kit. What happened veilside?

mental pimp
12-10-2003, 03:35 PM
mikeb took over it ^

Intrigue 8
12-10-2003, 04:55 PM
Yea im shocked to i like veilside, but this front end doesnt go with the car lines at all. hopefully they will come up with something else or ings will be getting my order

Elara
12-11-2003, 08:44 AM
Originally posted by mental pimp
mikeb took over it ^

mental, since apparently it doesn't work to warn you in pm's, if you don't quit with bashing mikeb you're getting a 3 day ban.

Lock & Load
12-11-2003, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by Elara
mental, since apparently it doesn't work to warn you in pm's, if you don't quit with bashing mikeb you're getting a 3 day ban.

OOH i love a tough talking moderator.

Lock & Load
12-11-2003, 05:55 PM
That bodykit is called the D1-GT Model (off the official Veilside website). There is no rear view of it. I have also found a different one called the Ver. 1 Model. Any feedback?

Front:

Lock & Load
12-11-2003, 05:56 PM
Rear:

mikeb
12-11-2003, 07:02 PM
the version 1 came out first

I love that rear bumper but thats about it

Elara
12-11-2003, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by Lock & Load
OOH i love a tough talking moderator.

:p

rotarygod
12-12-2003, 01:19 AM
Originally posted by Jhouse
i know a lot of people would say it looks too ricy but sorry to say this the RX-8 is a rice burner wether we like it or not.

The RX-8 may be a "rice burner" soley on the fact that it is a Japanese car but that does not mean that the car is "ricey" as in big stickers, beer keg sized exhaust tips, redundant aftermarket gauges, obscene body kits, and wings stolen from a small airplane. I have seen ricey Camaros, Mustangs, the odd Chevy pickup, several Neons, Cavaliers, even a Ford Festiva with a Supra wing attached to the top! While you don't see very many riced out american cars they too are still "rice". The term "rice" as most people use it is a style albeit a less than desirable one. Personally I think of rice soley as a food and not a style. Call YOUR car whatever you want but don't call OUR cars rice. I refuse to be associated with "ricers".

Air Force RX8
12-12-2003, 06:27 AM
Originally posted by JCX
Hey I like it! Looks awesome, if I had red i'd do it to

Way to go, one of the best kits Iv'e seen so far!

You can do it...the parts come unfinished, so you can get a paint shop to make it whatever color you desire.

As for me I prefer the version 1 kit front and back with the side flares from this kit. The ver 1 sides look like they were an afterthought and nothing else about them looks redeeming. However, after much thought about how expensive it is to buy then prep and paint these kits from veilside I'll probably pass as I get enough looks just like it is! ;)

chinqlinq
12-13-2003, 08:15 PM
i like the rear section for that kit...althoughi dont like the front of either one...

Dan

rollin_hard_8's
12-25-2003, 11:27 PM
i think that veilside makes some of the best body kits. but this one seems to be a little too agressive for the curves of the rx-8. The new C-1 body kit from veilside which consists of the front lip, rear lip, and side skirts looks really clean in my opinion. i think that the C-1 kit would be a better choice of the two.

mikeb
12-26-2003, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by rollin_hard_8's
i think that veilside makes some of the best body kits. but this one seems to be a little too agressive for the curves of the rx-8. The new C-1 body kit from veilside which consists of the front lip, rear lip, and side skirts looks really clean in my opinion. i think that the C-1 kit would be a better choice of the two.


Whats the c-1 look like?

I've seen the Dt and v1 but not c-1 kit

Air Force RX8
12-26-2003, 02:49 PM
Hey rollin hard 8s, how about some pics or a link to the C1 parts? I've not seen or heard anything about these. Are they plastic or fiberglas? Some more info would be appreciated. Thx

ShawnC
12-29-2003, 06:28 PM
I was actually interested in this kit and than I seen this thread. I think it looks really agressive but not ricey. Now I have grown to hate Civics or actually the people that drive civics because of all the ricey things they do to them but this kit doesn't seem that bad to me. The only problem I think is that it looks good in red but I don't know about yellow.

Need For Speed
12-29-2003, 07:26 PM
i find a new velsidebody kit.

very, very, very nice

wakeech
12-29-2003, 07:59 PM
*stifles raucous laughter*

neit_jnf
12-29-2003, 08:05 PM
Is that a snow plow? ;)

And that hood looks very feminine if you know how to look at it :D

B-Nez
12-29-2003, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by neit_jnf
Is that a snow plow? ;)

And that hood looks very feminine if you know how to look at it :D
Dude, that is too funny. The first words that came to mind when I saw the picture were: 'labia majora'. :p lol!

RX8Lover
12-29-2003, 08:15 PM
wow, looks like a$$. veilside is just PUMPING out the great kits. Ugh.

I'd shoot myself if I was forced to have this on my car.

MEGAREDS
12-29-2003, 08:19 PM
Thank God. I was afraid for a minute I was the only one. At least it's debadged. I would hate to think people would recognize it as a Mazda. ;)

Omicron
12-29-2003, 08:27 PM
Come on folks, different strokes for different folks. He likes it, let's try to respect that.

Outlaws eXtreme
12-29-2003, 08:37 PM
Kinda reminds me of shamu or a dolphin. Very cute.

mikeb
12-29-2003, 08:58 PM
this is not my type of kit

I love veilside and I thought they would make something nicer than this

RX8-TX
12-29-2003, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by neit_jnf
Is that a snow plow? ;)

And that hood looks very feminine if you know how to look at it :D

Its a Menzo Matzudarri..ehmmm, meant Enzo Ferrari...i

Genom
12-30-2003, 12:53 AM
I also love how the kit has been posted before, yet most of the same peeps still feel the need to say the same thing about it.

Aint my cup of tea, but I dont think it's bad. Just not my style.

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?threadid=16291&highlight=veilside

MEGAREDS
12-30-2003, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by Omicron
Come on folks, different strokes for different folks. He likes it, let's try to respect that.
Point taken...

RotorMotor
12-30-2003, 02:45 PM
I kinda like the hood and the mirrors, but the nose has gotta go....

Zio
12-30-2003, 03:24 PM
Pure rice.

sniper
12-30-2003, 04:54 PM
ugly..

sniper
12-30-2003, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by Zio
Pure rice.

I don't think it is that bad. But Rice? Comeon that term is used way to much. Rice would be more along the lines of that kit being made out of Home depot parts or wood, lol. Just because a kit may be gaudy doesn't constitute rice. JMO

khoney
12-30-2003, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by B-Nez
Dude, that is too funny. The first words that came to mind when I saw the picture were: 'labia majora'. :p lol!

My G-rated impression is that it looks like a Toon car from "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" :)

EXA4DRIVER
12-30-2003, 09:27 PM
I thought Veilside stopped making this type of body kit. I guess they've been watching too much Fags and Furious :D


This one is a little bit more subtle:

http://www.veilsidejpn.com/info/rx8_ver1.html

i3man
12-30-2003, 09:50 PM
It's funny how the word "rice" when it comes to car stuff is used in a similar manner as the word "cheese" in Madden. Madden players call someone a cheeser whenever that person does something well, cheesy, while playing the game.

You guys apply the word "rice" in a similar manner. I had never heard the word rice used in this manner until I found these boards.

Oddly enough, both words are a food. And more than likely, both words are used way too often :p

Zio
12-30-2003, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by sniper
I don't think it is that bad. But Rice? Comeon that term is used way to much. Rice would be more along the lines of that kit being made out of Home depot parts or wood, lol. Just because a kit may be gaudy doesn't constitute rice. JMO

I know many who would disagree with you there. Some people think any bodykit is "rice". Other people believe all JP cars are "rice rockets". While others believe tuning a civic or corolla constitutes "rice". I think those flashy bodykits are kinda ricey but thats JMO ;).