View Full Version : Rx8 Aust. Bolt Ons


RIC SHAW
12-07-2003, 06:02 AM
HAVE DEVELOPED MY RX8 AND HAVE SOME BOLT ON GO FAST THINGS.SWAY BARS , EXHAUST , FRONT BRAKE KIT. ANYONE INTERESTED.

Kev
12-07-2003, 06:58 AM
Spill the beans, we're all ears :)

Lock & Load
12-07-2003, 12:42 PM
Fire- away.

We are listening.

Hymee
12-07-2003, 01:35 PM
Pics please, dyno results etc. We are all into information sharing here.

And BTW, how 'bout you find the caps-lock on your keyboard and turn it off ;)

How bad is the front brake kit anyway? :eek:

Cheers,
Hymee.

PS - the name Rick Shaw does ring a bell to me in racing circles - coincidence?

dbb
12-07-2003, 03:26 PM
Hymee,

My thinking re the front brakes also. If I was going
to change something last, the brakes would probably
be it. The thing stops extremely well, and the ABS is
no fuss hero tech.

Lock & Load
12-07-2003, 03:56 PM
Hymee

You make a great softwear engineer but a lousy detective , check rick shaws profile all your questions will be answered.he he oops

michael

Hymee
12-07-2003, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by Lock & Load
Hymee

You make a great softwear engineer but a lousy detective , check rick shaws profile all your questions will be answered.he he oops

michael

I dunno about being a bad detective, but my hunch was right then.

Welcome aboard Ric!

Cheers,
Hymee.

sco
12-07-2003, 06:39 PM
I'd have to agree with dbb on the brakes for normal usage... they're awesome. Unless you're doing track work of course, which ric shaw is probably doing.

Kev
12-07-2003, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by Hymee
I dunno about being a bad detective, but my hunch was right then.

Welcome aboard Rick!

Cheers,
Hymee.

Well, now you're Ric Sure!

... coming mother ...

AMG
12-07-2003, 09:07 PM
RIC SHAW : near guru status with rotary tuning and racing.

AMG
12-07-2003, 09:09 PM
If anything, the pads should be changed to put up with track work..................if you're that way inclined.

emack
12-07-2003, 11:05 PM
Hey Ric, nice to have you on board!

Ric fitted the Racing Beat sway bars to my 8.

All round nice guy and genuine GURU. Can't wait to see the stuff he's developing.

RIC SHAW
12-08-2003, 02:16 AM
thanks guys for welcoming me onboard. EMACKs sway bars work realy well, i have road tested them but noy on the track. As always time is a problem and so things happen slowly with developments. I would like to have a track day in Sydney, Wakefield Park , if enough RX8 owners wanted to.
Yes the std brakes are good but a bigger kit option like the Nissan Z350 "track pack" i thought would be a good idea.
The rear muffler i have developed is nice and quiet but flows very well giving us an increase in performance on the dyno, it sits in the std place and looks as the std one does.
Any one in Sydney want to have a road drive day on a weekend ?

Hymee
12-08-2003, 02:22 AM
Ric - A track day? Yes please. There is the excuse I need to drive down! As long as it is "Driver Training" I might be able to get a pass out :)

RIC SHAW
12-08-2003, 02:46 AM
thanks guys for welcoming me onboard. EMACKs sway bars work realy well, i have road tested them but noy on the track. As always time is a problem and so things happen slowly with developments. I would like to have a track day in Sydney, Wakefield Park , if enough RX8 owners wanted to.
Yes the std brakes are good but a bigger kit option like the Nissan Z350 "track pack" i thought would be a good idea.
The rear muffler i have developed is nice and quiet but flows very well giving us an increase in performance on the dyno, it sits in the std place and looks as the std one does.
Any one in Sydney want to have a road drive day on a weekend ?

Wildcard
12-08-2003, 03:28 AM
Count me in for a track day.

dbb
12-08-2003, 03:46 AM
Count me in too. It is going to be at Mallala isn't it?

Then we can all cruise up to the Barossa for a bit of creative wine tasting.

Lock & Load
12-08-2003, 03:56 AM
Originally posted by Hymee
Ric - A track day? Yes please. There is the excuse I need to drive down! As long as it is "Driver Training" I might be able to get a pass out :)

Ditto

i can just visualize , a convoy led by our estemmed moderator hymee, heading towards sydney , maybe staying for a few days of R & R. NO nagging wife or kids , yeah im on my way .

RIC SHAW WELCOME to the forum .

RIC SHAW
12-08-2003, 04:52 AM
hang in there with me guys i'm a mechanic / race driver and not to crash hot with the key board if you know what i mean. bloody computers !!!!!!
nice to be along.

dbb
12-08-2003, 04:59 AM
Computers are just mechanical devices at the microscope level.

(complete with a fascinating array of electron hills, strange magnetic effects and blistering heat levels)

RIC SHAW
12-08-2003, 05:00 AM
hang in there with me guys i'm a mechanic / race driver and not to crash hot with the key board if you know what i mean. bloody computers !!!!!!
nice to be along.

AMG
12-08-2003, 05:00 AM
mechanics and computers...yeah I know what you mean. Always funny watching dyno operators key in details into computers.

Hey, aren't cars computerised these days?????????

dbb
12-08-2003, 05:11 AM
Speaking on computers, lets change the subject ( I wrestle with them all day) back to oil.

Ric : since you work on Rotaries for a living , what is your stance on synthetic vs. mineral oil? I'm using Pennzoil purebase mineral. Some people on this list (and some Mazda dealers) are using synthetics like Mobil 1. Rotary Heaven in SA swears by Amzoil 0w-30 synthetic for rotaries. ?

pricer01
12-08-2003, 05:21 AM
Forum Members ...

Dont let Ric Shaw get away with such modesty (mechanic/ race driver). If as I assume , he is THE Rick Shaw, he is an absolute guru of perfomance rotary engineering as attested by his customers and his racing results.

I for one will be paying attention to hsi technical / perfomance posts!

Rob

takahashi
12-08-2003, 05:56 AM
dbb... did I meet you at the Mallara RX8 test drive day in July?

I went across the boarder as I missed out the day in Victoria

Mallara is nice to race on I like that track.

timbo
12-08-2003, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by RIC SHAW
thanks guys for welcoming me onboard. … I would like to have a track day in Sydney, Wakefield Park , if enough RX8 owners wanted to.…Any one in Sydney want to have a road drive day on a weekend ?

Welcome aboard Ric. I would look forward to a day at Wakefield Park -- I pass it at least twice weekly on my Cbr-Syd commute and often wish I could drop in (esp when I see f*&^#%g Hwy Patrol car sitting on the long straight which is the Goulburn by-pass (guys, you have been warned -- this guy is a tax collector)

Sorry small off-topic rant ;)

Ric, if you need someone to help arrange, I have a colleague who can perhaps help -- he's run a few days there.

Timbo

RIC SHAW
12-09-2003, 06:21 AM
guys, i have been an Amsoil fan for 20 years of my racing life and with great results. i have used 20w50 in the rotarys and also gear lube in diffs and boxes.
now i have started to use the other good oil !!!! Redline oil also from the US.
i use it now in sprint races and in the 24hr stuff i've done at Bathurst.
why?? because the poms put me on to it in Germany when i went over for my first Nurburg 24 hr race. so many poeple in europe use it its not funny.
and so now i go of my own experiences as an engine builder and driver/car owmer. i have seen the amazing results and dont need any oil salesman to do the hard sell on me.
one story to tell is when i did the GTP race in S.A early this year in the rx7 serises 8 rs and after leading off pole position with a new lap record i split a plastic radiator tank. as i build my own engines and didnt want to loose my lead i ignored the water temp alarm and kept going. cooked the engine as never before but finished the race in 2nd with on water left for last two laps.
well the internals melted and the oil cooked but every oil feed part was 100 % reusable !!!! the oil worked. i was sold on Redline and now use it in the rx and also piston cars.
i'm running it i the rx8 now. realy good in the gear box .

Hymee
12-09-2003, 01:56 PM
Ric,

This is great getting info like this! I assume this oile has different grades? Interested to know which grades you use for the engine and gearbox.

Cheers,
Hymee.

dbb
12-09-2003, 02:04 PM
takahashi,

Not me in Mallalla, although I drove past it yesterday on the way to help save the world from running out of potatos and onions (and to keep the Americans in supply of ultra-premium export only shiraz labels).

RIC SHAW
12-11-2003, 04:33 AM
Hymee,
engine oil for race use "race 50 W "
street engines i use 40 w . these oils flow as 10w 40 or 10w 50.gear box "shock proof light " [ blue oil ] for synchro boxes. 'shock pfoof heavy {red oil} for dog boxes. diffs we normaly use shock proof heavy.
see web for " red line oil dot com"

Hymee
12-11-2003, 05:44 AM
Ric,

Thanks mate for the good oil.

:D

Cheers,
Hymee.

godzilla
12-11-2003, 05:59 PM
Hi all im new here also but i do have to agree with Rick in the redline oil , i swear by it in my previous car which was r32 gtr , i would definatly use it in the gearbox and the diffs , especially if ur slamming into gears it definatly absorbs the impact and gives less wear and tear , but i have to admit as for rotarys i just got my first rotary the rx8 happy with it but they definatly lack in power , so just a quick question are they restricted in any way that can be unrestricted by any simple mods, ur expertise is greatly apreciated
thanks in advance

Hymee
12-11-2003, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by godzilla
Hi all im new here also but i do have to agree with Rick in the redline oil , i swear by it in my previous car which was r32 gtr , i would definatly use it in the gearbox and the diffs , especially if ur slamming into gears it definatly absorbs the impact and gives less wear and tear , but i have to admit as for rotarys i just got my first rotary the rx8 happy with it but they definatly lack in power , so just a quick question are they restricted in any way that can be unrestricted by any simple mods, ur expertise is greatly apreciated
thanks in advance

Godzilla - Happy use of the search button! Have a look in the Tech and Performance forums...

Cheers,
Hymee.

godzilla
12-12-2003, 02:29 AM
Originally posted by Hymee
Godzilla - Happy use of the search button! Have a look in the Tech and Performance forums...

Cheers,
Hymee.

seriously hymee but was that necessary considering i was giving my opinion reg the oil and i was asking for Rics opinion not yours , i know about the search button

regards

jax8
12-12-2003, 03:55 AM
Respec, godzilla, respec. Hymee has shown us all on this forum that he knows a good deal more than just about oils

godzilla
12-12-2003, 04:17 PM
he may have been on this forum a lot longer and may have more posts than me but just because he may have won your respect doesnt mean he has earned mine but he may have to learn to respect all if he wants all to respect him back , just because im new on this forum may not have to jump into conclusions that im new to forums. he has more posts than me or any other new member doesnt make himself any better than anyone else, there are alot of people that just read and sit back , looks like he may have tought u more about oils but still has alot more to learn about respect remember just my $0.02 worth just like yours

BVD
12-12-2003, 05:16 PM
Relax Godzilla, :)

I understand where you're coming from, but you have misread Hymee's tone and intention.

He is not only a well liked and respected member of the Australian section, but he's the moderator too. Slagging people just isn't his style. He makes a useful suggestion - there really is plenty of discussion going on in the sections he rceommends.

Good hunting.

Hymee
12-14-2003, 12:47 AM
Godzilla,

Welcome to the forums! Perhaps that is what I should have started with. I think my message has been misinterpreted. I was in no way slaging you off. My appologies if that is what you read into it. Maybe your involvement in other forums has lead you to be defensive about what you write, but I don't think you should be too worried about that here. I have found them to be a great bunch of like minded car enthusiasts.

Ric does bring a wealth of information to these forums. Indeed his is inital posting on this thread was about some of the work he is doing to improve the RX8's performance anyway. I also value his opinion.

The RX-8's are very new, and there is still a great deal to be learnt about them. I was merely pointing out that you can find out as much as anyone else by spending some more time looking around. I was not saying that you should not have asked that of Ric. In fact, it did not seem a direct question just to him.

Please don't judge me on my number of posts, nor should you feel threatend that you have a small number. It is the quality of the posts that is important. There are members here who have thousands of posts - many of them one liners such as "Show us the pics". That does not mean they are any more or any less welcome here. And the same goes for you. BTW - I don't consider my post count terribly high. It is about 1/2 of my tally on the LS1 forum. And I started there with 1 post, just the same as here.

We all enjoy quality contributions, and lots of fun. If I find anyone abusing you for no reason, I can arrange to have them banned. And that equally applies to everyone else here.

So sit back, relax, have fun, and learn as much as you like, or contribute as much as you like.

http://users.tpg.com.au/adslnt5c/marko/smilies/sm_love2.gif

Cheers,
Hymee.

godzilla
12-14-2003, 04:09 PM
All is cool, sorry maybe i have interpreted the whole thing wrong i guess we just started on the wrong foot ,anyway i appreciate what u wrote and i will try and contribute in anyway posssible to help this forum, and i guess we have changed the topic enough on this forum , just keep it flowing i guess

cheers

dbb
12-14-2003, 05:36 PM
Hey Godzilla,

if your last car was a R32 GTR why did you move to a high revving rotary? If you drive the 8 like you drove the R32
it will always seem slow and underpowered.

Hymee
12-14-2003, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by godzilla
All is cool, sorry maybe i have interpreted the whole thing wrong i guess we just started on the wrong foot ,anyway i appreciate what u wrote and i will try and contribute in anyway posssible to help this forum, and i guess we have changed the topic enough on this forum , just keep it flowing i guess

cheers

No problems. Have fun!

Back on thread about bolt-ons / performance... We are doing a cat-back exhaust tomorrow, and will post pics and before/after dyno results for everyone to digest.

BTW - I have never owned a forced induction vehicle - but I thought they would like revs as well?? Or is that less of an issue in a Skyline as it is a larger capacity motor (being a 6)?

I don't mind being learned about things :)

Cheers,
Hymee.

godzilla
12-14-2003, 06:06 PM
dont get me wrong they are a awsome car they also rev out v high at 9200rpm but in my case i had an electrical fire in it that caused a fire and burnt out and then seeing so many of them on the streets after having it for about 5 yrs there were so many they ended up being like taxis, and as soon as i saw the rx8 i thought that was an awsome looking car, with the handling to match for a factory car. I know its not as easy to extract the power out of these things but i think an rx8 with about the 300-350hp will be a very lethal street car with the looks to match.as for the (rb26) 2.6ltr engine believe me there isnt much difference in revving considering mine revved to 9200 very easy and many rev past 10,000rpm. as for the rotarys i must say im very impressed with the revving of these engines without struggle and that there is so much power to be released and many people under estimate these engines by thinking they only rev with no torque which is quite stupid eg F1 engines, and what i want to do is find then , surely these is an easy at least 50hp hidden in these without spending a cent. Eg factory gtr would do about low to flat 13s with say less than $100 u would pull a flat 12sec 1/4 mile very easily with the right setup and thats with the factory exhaust . Thats all i wanted to ask these $1000 cai is pathetic, alot of people thinking bigger is better but just has to be a perfect combination. i guess that is what i was trying to ask b4.
Coming from another forum there was a sticky saying free horsepower which i think is a great idea with people experimenting doesnt matter how big or small may start of with say mods under $100 or cost nothing and everyone can contribute by there own experiments and just adding in b4 everyone knows it we would probably end up finding these little hidden hp we should have got in the first place. sorry for the long thread just my thoughts

cheers

Hymee
12-14-2003, 06:38 PM
It would be great to get down to the 13's and 12's. But that is a massively long way from my 15 flat :(

I agree an extra 50HP would be great, infact that would be my first benchmark. It would nice if it was for free, but I won't hold my breath on that one. I'm not sure it would get me in the 13's though! 2 seconds is a lot.

Time will tell - with the help of lots of information sharing!

Cheers,
Hymee.

EDIT: PS - Long threads are OK if they are easy to read. A bit more punctuation might help with that ;)