Joe RX-8
09-06-2008, 01:30 PM
In the quest for more helmet clearance for track days, I have gone to an aftermarket seat. The seat I chose was the Momo Start 2007. This is one of the least expensive FIA homologated seats I could find (the only less expensive was a Sparco sprint seat). The Start 2007 is a side-mount seat (side-mount seats generally can be mounted lower than bottom-mount seats). The FIA homologation means that the seat can be safely mounted without needing to be attached to a roll bar (a roll bar generally prevents use of the back seat). The Momo seat is quite tight for my behind. This seat is recommended for up to a 36" waist -- I'm a 33" and am wedging myself down into the back of it. I don't know how a 36" person would possibly fit (unless those extra 3" were in the front!).
I bought a "super low position seat mount" from MemoryFab (http://www.memoryfab.com/products/detail_accessories_3/). They don't make the bracket -- they are just an importer. The bracket actually came from http://www.japanseatrail.jp/ (they show some sample seats with their bracket in RX-8s at http://www.lastrada.jp/cont/seat_rail/type/photo/mazda/rx8-se8.html). I got a seat mount with dual-locking sliders on it. MemoryFab is slow as a Smart ForTwo, so leave plenty of time to get your stuff (mine took over 2 months after ordering).
I routed the seat belt the same way as Derex'8 did in http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=128244.
Some pictures are below of the installation. The only tight spots are the shoulder wings on the seat interfere with the rear door handle if the seat is back too far (which isn't a problem for me in a comfortable driving position); and the seat belt receptacle is a bit hard to get at. I plan to go to Mazda and order another receptacle (in addition to the one that came with the car), so I can leave one permanently mounted to the new seat. I may also drill a new mounting hole a bit further up the strap on the receptacle to allow better access to the release button.
I believe I gained about 1-2" doing this, which actually allows me to sit in a reasonable driving position now with a helmet. My helmet still hits the roof where it slopes toward the door, so I would like to find another inch if I could.
The whole process took about 2 hours. Future removal/installation will probably only take 20 minutes now that the seat and rail are assembled.
Weight: the Momo Start 2007 weighs 20.0#, and the MemoryFab bracket weighs 9.5#. The factory seat with the seat rail bracket is 39.0#. So I have also removed about 10# of weight from the car.
I bought a "super low position seat mount" from MemoryFab (http://www.memoryfab.com/products/detail_accessories_3/). They don't make the bracket -- they are just an importer. The bracket actually came from http://www.japanseatrail.jp/ (they show some sample seats with their bracket in RX-8s at http://www.lastrada.jp/cont/seat_rail/type/photo/mazda/rx8-se8.html). I got a seat mount with dual-locking sliders on it. MemoryFab is slow as a Smart ForTwo, so leave plenty of time to get your stuff (mine took over 2 months after ordering).
I routed the seat belt the same way as Derex'8 did in http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=128244.
Some pictures are below of the installation. The only tight spots are the shoulder wings on the seat interfere with the rear door handle if the seat is back too far (which isn't a problem for me in a comfortable driving position); and the seat belt receptacle is a bit hard to get at. I plan to go to Mazda and order another receptacle (in addition to the one that came with the car), so I can leave one permanently mounted to the new seat. I may also drill a new mounting hole a bit further up the strap on the receptacle to allow better access to the release button.
I believe I gained about 1-2" doing this, which actually allows me to sit in a reasonable driving position now with a helmet. My helmet still hits the roof where it slopes toward the door, so I would like to find another inch if I could.
The whole process took about 2 hours. Future removal/installation will probably only take 20 minutes now that the seat and rail are assembled.
Weight: the Momo Start 2007 weighs 20.0#, and the MemoryFab bracket weighs 9.5#. The factory seat with the seat rail bracket is 39.0#. So I have also removed about 10# of weight from the car.